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Bertie the Brain

Bertie the Brain

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·October 24, 2025

satiated_grue

On the tic tack toe topic, MENACE is just startlingly cool:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matchbox_Educable_Noughts_and_...

Syzygies

A December 1956 cover feature article in Radio-Electronics magazine describes "Relay Moe" which plays tic tac toe with adjustable levels of skill. It used 90 relays.

<https://www.vintagecomputer.net/cisc367/Radio%20Electronics%...>

Here is the full text, for discussing with agents:

https://archive.org/stream/RadioElectronics195701/Radio%20El...

This is a subject dear to my heart. I'm a mathematician who routinely uses symmetry in counting problems. As a kid I remember writing out a tic tac toe game tree in about ten pages. I must have used symmetry, and I must have only mapped a winning strategy, not all 765 game states up to symmetry.

So my first reaction to now reading that Bertie the Brain used "addition tubes" was "Really? Can't you do that with relays?" And the reality is that Bertie the Brain was a solution looking for a problem, a demo project for these tubes, not an attempt at the simplest way to implement such a machine.

Still, looking at the numbers, I'm impressed that Relay Moe managed multiple levels of game play using only 90 relays. The design exploited symmetry.

croes

Additron not addition.

marshavoidance

I miss the days when video games were used to showcase technical advances.

"Kates built the game to showcase his additron tube, a miniature version of the vacuum tube, though the transistor overtook it in computer development shortly thereafter."

embedding-shape

They sort of still are (Witcher 4 being used to showcase new UE features and software+hardware optimizations is just one example), but we're getting close to the point where we cannot really add more details and realism to video games and they still don't really hammer the hardware. Seems ML is the new showcase if anything :)

aethrum

Man Canada used to be so impressive. We need to get back there

ge96

RIP Avro Arrow

ck2

the mechanical chess computer was even more impressive imho

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Ajedrecista

early 1900s, that's incredible

the first electronic computer playing chess was almost 50 years away

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Sharlin

Note that it only played a single endgame scenario consisting of three pieces.

rob74

Still more difficult than Tic-Tac-Toe...

taneq

What, no small-statured chess mastermind hidden in there? :D