Peep Show – The Most Realistic Portrayal of Evil Ever Made (2020)
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·July 20, 2025kjellsbells
disposablese
I wish there were a somewhat acceptable, though controversial, way for us to distinguish between good and evil like how success is defined by disposable wealth. You can argue that society does not see it that, but there is no absolute way to denying it.
two_handfuls
> success is defined by disposable wealth
Are you sure?
alanbernstein
How about china's social credit system?
jahewson
HN Karma
aosaigh
This is a good read for fans of the the show. I don’t think the central premise of redefined evil holds up, but it’s a fun read and the analysis of their characters is spot on.
jkestner
Yeah, I never empathized with Mark and Jez so his thesis falls apart for me. Maybe he’s the baddie?
aunty_helen
That’s because it reads like a PR piece. Gauging interest or preseeding a reboot or rerelease.
enneff
That’s not how British tv works
ElCapitanMarkla
I’ll tell you what, that crack is really moreish.
mmasu
please Jez, don’t talk about crack!!
pipeline_peak
The twins! The fucking twins. I’m always on about them
danielecook
I place it in the category of “cringe humor,” and by that standard it’s more cringey than Seinfeld and curb - especially because of the first person shots. It is a great show! Well worth a watch.
simonw
If you haven't heard of Peep Show but you enjoyed Succession you should know that Jessie Armstrong, the creator and showrunner of Succession, was previously one half of the Jessie Armstrong and Sam Bain pair responsible for Peep Show.
I find the similarities between the two shows fascinating: in particular the way they both revel in how flawed their central characters are.
willio58
As someone who loves peepshow I might have to finally give succession a go!
tab_jockey
· Lies to a woman about accidentally killing her dog to try to sleep with her (also tries to burn the dog corpse and dispose of it)
zxexz
And then claims it’s a barbecue turkey, and eats it in front of her in an attempt to save face.
reagle
So they were the baddies?
jgalt212
> Lies to a woman about stalking her so he can continue running into her in different locations
We've all done that.
tclancy
Thass a bad miss.
(Admittedly, the next show)
phist_mcgee
The article refers to the banality of evil in realation to Eichmann. There's actually been quite a bit of historical push back on this assertion, which in some ways has been used to rehabilitate Eichmann's image as a bureaucrat. Eichmann while not the chief architect, was definitely partly responsible for the Holocaust's "success" and actively climbed the nazi hierarchy by finding a niche to fill - exterminating jewish people.
JadeNB
I always thought "the banality of evil" wasn't about minimizing the horror of his actions. It's not saying "what he did wasn't so bad," but "these horrible actions were done not by an obvious villain, but by someone personally unremarkable."
pessimizer
And people just ignore a number of very convincing anecdotes told to Lanzmann from Benjamin Murmelstein, someone who would know, including one with Eichmann personally helping trash the inside of a Vienna synagogue on Kristallnacht.
ants_everywhere
In addition to the push back there's the fact that Hannah Arendt -- who coined the phrase "banality of evil" -- was also a lover of Martin Heidegger.
Heidegger was an enthusiastic Nazi and Arendt also defended him. Some people see the "banality of evil" book as essentially being a defense of Eichmann.
tclancy
Can you supply some sources for this?
ants_everywhere
It should be in all standard encyclopedias, but it's certainly in Britannica and Wikipedia. Usually I like to cite Wikipedia, but I'll add Britannica in case people have conspiracy theories about Wikipedia. And you can read more about their romance in the other sources. The Slate article discusses her use of antisemitic sources in her books.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Hannah-Arendt
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Martin-Heidegger-German...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Arendt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Heidegger
https://www.openculture.com/2017/05/the-love-letters-of-hann...
https://slate.com/human-interest/2009/10/troubling-new-revel...
ljlolel
It’s in Wikipedia
throwaway984393
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On the topic of evil, this sketch from Mitchell and Webb stayed with me for years.
Are we the baddies?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY
Every villain is the hero in their own story, after all.