How to Make a Living as a Writer
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·May 24, 2025davvid
fractallyte
> I root for Horse Laws and grow sad when a state bucks them.
Another cute one!
Papazsazsa
I have just made the leap into becoming a full-time writer. I had an early stroke of luck and sold a screenplay – which let me write full-time for the next 6 months or so.
I write primarily military/espionage fiction, would love to hear what the HN crowd is hungry for on that front.
ggm
This would be an instance of those mimetic "how I got to own a house at 29" stories where the first 6 steps are rational and the seventh is "have rich parents"
For most people, writing is not sufficiently lucrative to sustain a living income and supplements other income streams or is net negative.
Also: read "new grub street" by George Gissing, 1891
vidarh
But this patchwork of low paid freelance work is the most reasonable way to make it sustainable for most people.
ggm
Yes. And, if this is your craft, this is how to flex. If you're driven to write, you're going to write, rich or not.
There's another piece of journalistic writing about erotic Potter fanfic where the article author realises they're possibly good at it and have recruited followers. It's https://www.vice.com/en/article/my-quest-to-become-a-harry-p...
SuperHeavy256
This is a negative comment. The author is someone who is clearly struggling, and trying to do her best to make ends meet by working multiple jobs that she makes clear she is desperately in search of. She also can't use her hands and is in chronic pain. Please, have some empathy.
ggm
I have empathy but it's tempered by realism. Very few people make a sustaining income from writing, almost all of them supplement some other source of income or subsist.
Editing and proofing may be a better deal. My partner did this for over 25 years and rarely exceeded the taxable income threshold.
manoji
Loved this article . It took me back to the days of just reading random stuff out of the blue and just enjoying it undistracted.
mndgs
Beautiful text, easy to read, one can immediately feel that author knows what she is doing. Light, but long and sad at the same time. With an aftertaste of hope at the end. Nice work.
globalnode
Was enjoying the article 'till a massive popup tried to grab my attention. Unfortunately I have a policy that requires the page be closed within 5 seconds of any such popups :'(, hope the horse writing turned out OK for him.
Max-q
She’s a good writer, I really enjoyed the article. It was one topic regarding being a writer today I was curiously waiting for while reading: gpt. Nothing can be more transforming for writers right now? The erotic novella will probably be written by AI very soon. YouTube is overflowing with AI generated and narrated stories now. Just a couple of months ago they were quite bad, but it’s huge improvements weekly and this week they have become so good that I’ll say they are better than magazine stories. We can just imagine how good they will be in two months from now.
Papazsazsa
They will never replace lived experience, in the same way McDonalds will never replace a meal made by mom.
magic_hamster
Hitting CTRL+F and searching for AI all over the piece, there are 0 mentions. I would have loved to read what a writer thinks of the coming AI takeover in creative writing.
Virtually all the jobs mentioned can already be replaced with AI for a fraction of the cost.
One thing is clear from this text: she can definitely write. I wonder what her erotic stories read like even though I'm not exactly the demographic they were aiming for.
keiferski
My prediction is that all "anonymous" writing will be replaced by AI. By anonymous, I mean: copywriting, corporate-style neutral writing, product descriptions, news summaries, headlines, and so on. Anything where the identity of the author is unknown or not important.
However, writers that lean into their identity and inject their personality into the writing, use video, and generally have a public brand will probably do fine. The fact is: we live in a video world now, so unless you can latch onto the brand of a larger entity to grow your audience, you're probably going to need to be on camera.
(This is basically how many writers are successful on Substack.)
Writers will also continue to be needed in fields where there is zero tolerance for errors (say, technical writers at complex manufacturing companies.)
dakiol
> Virtually all the jobs mentioned can already be replaced with AI for a fraction of the cost.
I’m not so sure. First, they are already paying pennies to the writers. Second, who’s gonna write the prompt? The bosses certainly not, so they would hire prompters. Now, you cannot simply hire a prompter with zero experience in copywriting or editing; these people would not accept less than pennies for their work. So you just go ahead and hire people with writing experience. It’s easier.
SuperHeavy256
Not everything needs to be about AI. Not everything should be.
CalRobert
Ok, but if you’re a horse in the 1920’s it seems prudent to consider automobiles
willsoon
I can't write erotica or porn no matter how much I practice. I have read some great writers fails like a champ when they had tried to do the same. So, what if I fail. Sometimes I fall in erotica/porn scenes like not wanting to go that way. A detail just spontaneous popupping in my mind. And yes, then It's good. But is not erotica if it happen every 100 pages. PS: practice to write erotica, admin.
treve
Extremely entertaining read!
mediumsmart
I concur. … Not sure where, but empathy stopped me before the end.
chistev
Writing is fun. I have a small personal blog with 21 subscribers -
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Max-q
I liked the piece on corruption. You say it’s not everyone, it’s the system. I think it might be the culture, not the system? It has become the culture of the country to think that way. This is something I’m often thinking about, how can this be changed? How can a leader say “we as a country have to change. We need to change our culture, think of corruption as illegal and destructive” , and get the citizens on board with it. Because, with my, unfortunately limited, knowledge about Africa, I have understood that in many countries a government employee can’t make a living of their salary. The position is a position enabling taking bribes, and that’s what’s putting food on the table. When it’s that ingrained, how is a transformation possible? Where to start?
One idea I’ve had, is transformation via a system similar to corruption, but regulated. If you go to a government office, you don’t pay a bribe, but you pay some kind of tip to the representative. And that tip is listed on a “menu” and is reported to the employer, and a small tax is paid. The amounts are set at a level around the commonly known bribe paid today.
Then, year by year, those tips are reduced (or stay the same, not adjusted for inflation), while the salary is increased. This is possible due to the small tip tax.
Doing this while information campaigns are running on TV, internet, schools, and so on, continuously.
Let’s say this is a 20 year project, with a clear goal of a higher level of civilization, imprinting in people that this good and this will make life better for you, your children and grandchildren.
I hope that your country will be able to fix the problem.
chistev
Thanks
dSebastien
I've been writing for many years, and I I'm still very far from being able to pay rent
> Throughout all of this, Horse News was the only stable work I had.
Only a good writer, that truly enjoys their craft, is able to masterfully insert a witty dry pun like that into their work. Bravo!