Skip to content(if available)orjump to list(if available)

Notes on OpenAI O3-Mini

Notes on OpenAI O3-Mini

15 comments

·February 1, 2025

kamikazeturtles

There's a huge price difference between o3-mini and o1 ($4.40 vs $60 per million output tokens), what trade-offs in performance would justify such a large price gap?

Are there specific use cases where o1's higher cost is justified anymore?

zamadatix

No, it'll also be replaced by a newer o3 series model in short order.

xnx

Hasn't Gemini pricing been lower than this (or even free) for awhile? https://ai.google.dev/pricing

BinRoo

Are you insinuating Gemini is similar in performance to o3-mini?

gerdesj

Are you implying it isn't?

(evidence please, everyone)

maxdo

How would you rate it against Claude ? Didn’t test it yet, but o1 pro didn’t perform as good

pants2

I've been trying out o3 mini in Cursor today, it seems "smarter" but overall tends to overthink things and if it's not provided with perfect context it's prone to hallucinate. Overall I prefer Sonnet still. It has a certain magic of always making reasonable assumptions and finding simple solutions.

firecall

As n occasions user and fan of Cursor, it would be good if they could explain what the models are and why the different models exist.

There’s no obvious answer of why one should switch to any of them!

Nuzzerino

Terrible idea to focus the next gen model on writing code. It is a slap in the face to the professionals that make this a reality. We should be replacing doctors and lawyers instead, who have largely failed western society lately.

simonw

I've seen enough now that I no longer worry that LLMs getting better at code will threaten my job.

LLMs give programmers an extraordinary productivity boost, but are much less effective for people who don't have a programming mindset.

It might help more people gain that mindset, but ai welcome that: it's not like there's any shortage of problems in the world that benefit from being automated by computers.

benatkin

That reads like an OpenAI talking point.

The smart thing to do as programmers is to keep trying to automate more of our work, but there's no guarantee that it will be like this in the future.

A lot of this post resonated with me: https://youtubetranscriptoptimizer.com/blog/05_the_short_cas... It doesn't argue that demand for video cards will be exhausted, but that it won't be as white hot as it is now. I can see the same with the top tier of programming talent.

brookst

It’s a tool. And I suspect doctors and lawyers could mount a spirited argument that programmers have done far more harm than their millennia-old fields.

joshuanapoli

Programmers have always made a living by automating ourselves out of business. Somehow, we're still doing pretty well.

marxisttemp

In what way would you say doctors have largely failed Western society lately?