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YouTube Removes Windows 11 Bypass Tutorials, Claims 'Risk of Physical Harm'

shevy-java

Google censors the world, together with Microsoft.

Well - it is time that the rest of the world censors these two corporation. I don't want them to restrict information.

People will find workarounds by the way. This is now a Streisand effect - as people see that Google and Microsoft try to hide information from them, they will now look at this much more closely than before, with more attention.

(Having said that, my bypass strategy is to not use Windows 11 altogether. I don't depend on it, having used Linux since 21 years now, but my machine to the left is actually using Win10, for various reasons, such as that I can fix problems of elderly relatives still using Windows. But I won't use Win11 ever with its recall-spy software. I also don't care that it can be disabled - any corporation that tries to sniff-invade on me, is evil and must be banned.)

Edit: Ok so the video was restored. That was good, but still, we need an alternative here. Google holds WAY too much power via youtube.

Aurornis

> This is now a Streisand effect - as people see that Google and Microsoft try to hide information from them

This comment section is wild.

The videos are up. Microsoft and Google weren't meeting in secret backrooms to censor this one channel. The most likely explanation is that a competing channel was trying to move their own videos up in the rankings by mass-reporting other videos on the topic.

It's a growing problem on social media platforms: Cutthroat channels or influencers will use alt accounts or even paid services to report their competition. They know that with enough reports in a short period of time they can get the content removed for a while, which creates a window for their own content to get more views.

The clue is the "risk of physical harm". People who abuse the report function know that the report options involving physical harm, violence, or suicide are the quickest way to get content taken down.

silisili

A tale as old as time. A long time ago I worked in DDoS prevention and the bulk of our first customers were competing gambling sites and online eyeglass retailers.

Why? Because they were all paying people to DDoS each other. Kinda silly, but good for business.

bithead

Either that or microsoft and/or google will send someone to my house to Raymond Reddington my ass if I install W11 with only a local account.

tacker2000

Also Visa/Mastercard are big silencers…

WorldPeas

and what phone do you use? There's no way out from that perspective (apple included), privacy and interoperability should not be mutually exclusive.

portaouflop

The reality is most people don’t care about this.

And if they do care they will find workarounds as you said.

Nothing will change, the frog has been sitting in boiling water for more than a generation now and the newbloods never experienced the computational freedom you hold dear; they will happily use whatever corporate surveillance technology is being forced upon them. They will even defend it to the bone if you try to take it away

rs186

> Rich appealed both immediately. The first appeal was denied in 45 minutes. The second in just five.

> The platform claimed its "initial actions" (could be either the first takedown or appeal denial, or both) were not the result of automation.

Didn't know YouTube can improve their review time from 45 minutes to 5 minutes without automation. I bet it's pure magic.

candiddevmike

I'm sure someone is figuring out a new version of the DMCA that prohibits circumventing data collection "in the name of preserving copyright".

dlgeek

I mean... documenting the details of the investigation to support the first decision and relying on the documented details the second time would easily explain that.

g42gregory

Unfortunately, this brings an obvious question:

If they sensor something like this, how could we trust platforms with the actually important subjects?

nicce

We can’t anymore. Simple as that.

damnesian

we put way too much faith in them. It's easy to fake authoritative when your substance is virtual.

lazide

lol, the evening news was always a laugh if you knew anything about the subject matter.

pimlottc

*censor

portaouflop

This implies we could ever trust them.

Simulacra

We can't. From COVID to wars, YouTube is like public access TV from the 80s with scam preachers. We have to take it with a bucket of salt.

vlucas

You can't, and this was readily apparent in 2020 with Covid. Even doctors presenting factual information got censored and de-platformed by YouTube.

The only real competing video platform that promises no censorship is Rumble ( https://rumble.com ), but it has a very right-wing slant due to conservatives flocking to it during all the Covid-era social media censorship.

chasd00

Yeah the moment they started I knew it was doomed to fail. Get it wrong once and your credibility is ruined. They should have never tried to censor content outside of what is legally required and therefore defined.

reactordev

You can’t.

WXLCKNO

Bit beside the point but Windows 11 is the first version since Windows 3.1 that I haven't used.

Nuked my Windows 10 install and put Pop OS on it + a MacBook separately.

noir_lord

I've dual booted since the 90's and have run Microsoft OS's somewhere since the 80's.

I had Windows 11 (kept it around for gaming), I binned it a few weeks ago.

Don't game enough to justify it any more (haven't even tried gaming on linux yet).

Juice was no longer worth the squeeze.

saubeidl

Gaming on Linux is quite good these days, as long as you don't need any kernel-level anticheat for multiplayer.

Proton is an impressive piece of software.

BolexNOLA

Bazzite baybeeeee

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brulard

Although the reason was absurd, videos were eventually restored.

superxpro12

TBH the title is clickbait given the outcome.

im3w1l

Isn't the damage done though? Like if they were down at the time when people were told that win10 reached end of support and it's time to get on 11 does it matter that they are up now?

Anyway I doubt youtube did this intentionally, but it does show how vulnerable their system is to false reports.

lazide

DMCA has always been buried in false reports. Every system gets gamed, and this is a particularly easy one to do so with.

bbarnett

But did someone on Microsoft's pay, a Google employee with elevated access, flag it?

henriquemaia

The video in question does present a risk of death... to Windows.

(Nah, that wording is but a generic legalese sounding way of casting a huge net to get all sorts of fish.)

gorjusborg

I no longer run a Microsoft OS on any of the computers I own.

This type of behavior is the reason.

Linux is good enough for most everything I do, for the rest is MacOS.

Evidlo

The videos were restored, though...

wafflemaker

So why shouldn't I use the windows 11 on the other partition that I use for games that don't run on Linux or run with degraded performance?

(Yeah, it's Nvidia, no, I didn't do my homework and bought Nvidia for a Linux PC).

While it may make sense for others, I don't find system that can lock up for 11 hours for updates suitable for anything other than occasional gaming. But why shouldn't I use it for it? I already think twice before getting any game that doesn't run on Linux and gave EA WRC Rally a downvote after they rug pulled Linux users. (A game that run on Linux on the beginning got borked with anticheat. A racing game, so you don't cheat your friends by having 1s less on that race you all compete on).

prmoustache

There is no worse usage of windows than the occasional one given the huge amount of updates it starts to download whenever you start it up after a long period unused.

I guess it might be useful if you only keep it offline but in that case you aren't playing games online and thus you would be fine gaming on Linux given the only downside is lack of anticheat support.

hshdhdhehd

They cant remove all the Ubuntu installation tutorials surely?

insane_dreamer

There are a lot of videos on YouTube about things that have a “risk of physical harm” and this is what they choose to pick on??

damonachey

I would think this selective action could / should open them up to litigation for all the other harmful things on their site

__loam

It’s all automated, of course there are false positives

Pxtl

Meanwhile AI products occasionally talk kids into killing themselves and that's okay.