Delphi 13 Florence Released
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·September 10, 2025kev009
tylerflick
> Microsoft pile drove them from early dominance to niche by undercutting them handily
And hiring Anders Hejlsberg
selectnull
Microsoft did a lot of bad things over the years, but Borland drove themselves over the cliff on their own. Instead of focusing on developer tools, they wanted to reinvent (and rename) Borland every few years in the 90s.
Bad management, bad decisions, bad products (Delphi 7 was peak). MS had nothing to do with that. And I'm sure Anders made a right move to abandon the sinking ship.
I'm still pissed at Borland for all those bad moves.
therealmarv
The could have been the Jetbrains (before Jetbrains existed) and even bigger than Jetbrains.
drob518
It’s very difficult to make money in developer tools. Microsoft could easily squeeze Borland by simply making MSDN tools free. Borland tried to diversify with databases, word processors, and spreadsheets, but Microsoft countered with Office, trying them altogether, and it became the default in every single business. Borland had great technology and was super innovative and I used Turbo C++ and TASM for years. But in the end, they just couldn’t find a cash cow market to keep them afloat.
elzbardico
And yes, naming themselves inprise was peak 90's wallstreet cringe.
elzbardico
Borland decided that they should target management instead of the developers as their focal point of product development. They ignored the Web for Delphi and decided that web development front would be covered by JBuilder, a paid and slow evolving product that could not compete against the fast iterating and free Eclipse.
brightball
I was surprised to see Delphi still getting pretty solid use in some circles. I had no idea.
Talked to a dev who was an advocate for it some years back.
ivan_gammel
If you build for a small number of professional users with a known target platform and you know how to solve distribution, then RAD tools (or any platforms supporting desktop targets) are the best choice and they offer superior UX compared to browser-based apps.
I myself now prefer to build admin tools on Java/Swing, because it’s much faster and easier than building a web app (Claude Code does that job quite well). Delphi probably offers even better dev.speed/quality/UX.
johannes1234321
Yeah, getting a webapp up and running for small amount of users is tedious. Either complicated install or permanent hosting cost and permanent cost for keeping maintained. A desktop tool has a lot less security vectors as it's all local.
Of course there is electron, but that has its own set of complications.
For simple tools RAD is great.
zeroc8
Since Firemonkey draws on Skia anyway, they could also provide something similar to Flutter/WASM.
I love the Flutter/WASM idea, but cannot get warm with the widget in widget approach flutter uses. Having a designtool like Delphi's would be nice.
drob518
It’s the COBOL of the 1990s.
zenlot
Delphi is still great, even though the usage declined and not many people, especially newcomers know about it (or C++ Builder).
It is still probably the best drag and drop experience for UI components, with Qt Creator being a runner up.
A bit shame, as most likely the popularity declined due to draconial licencing model at the time. Now they have Delphi Community edition, which is free.
If you have some free time, try it, you won't regret it. Especially good for hobby projects.
_zamorano_
I don't think any of those are better than WinForms.
After all these years, I still use WinForms for prototyping, nothing faster comes to mind. If I need a mockup to show to my manager in 15 minutes, nothing beats WinForms.
benjiro
Unfortunately, i feel like Delphi has been stuck in time.
Last time i used it (year or two ago), literally memory segfault on not even complex code. Memory pointer issue or something (been too long).
Stuff that has been solved by modern solutions like Rust or Go (garbage collector).
Still love how instant the compiles are... Having hefty chunks compile in 0.x second makes Go feel slow. And those tiny binaries (kuch kuch Go 5MB for hello world, or a bit more complex 10, 15MB), ... But these days even Zig is a better solution.
breve
> literally memory segfault on not even complex code. Memory pointer issue or something
That sounds like your own misunderstanding of Object Pascal.
runjake
Here's the summary snippet from the post because the server is dead:
"Embarcadero is very happy to announce RAD Studio 13 Florence along with Delphi 13
and C++Builder 13 is available to customers starting today. The RAD Studio 13
Florence release offers a 64-bit version of the RAD Studio IDE, an updated C++Builder
Clang compiler, Delphi language extensions, AI components, an AI companion, along with
a number of enhancements of existing features, and a significant focus on quality."gramie
Not a good sign when the website (granted it's the blog website, not the main one) for a commercial development tool is unreachable.
Sad, because I still have a soft spot in my heart for Delphi.
nunobrito
Delphi was the only compiler where the Help documentation was really helpful and used without needing internet. For each library they provided real-world examples on the documentation so we could learn how to use them.
I've never found bettern tool for building desktop GUI apps so easily. I've dropped Delphi back in 2010, moved to Java and tried the web/mobile world but nothing comes close to that top-notch quality.
Irony of destiny: Any app compiled with Borland Delphi is instantly multiplatform because they run beautifuly on Linux and OSX when WINE is installed there.
innocentoldguy
My first programming job was writing Delphi code. Their documentation was excellent. All of the documentation I've used since then has been sad and disappointing.
browningstreet
Ironic when you get a Cloudflare error page for something that should be CDN'd and static-able anyway.
Here's where I'll add: it's really weird to me that Embarcadero now owns Ultra-Edit.
drob518
Yea, well said. Me too.
null
Some interesting trivia, Netflix' cofounder Marc Randolf spent time at Borland.
RAD Studio is kind of the closet experience to VB6 where you simply drop controls on a form and can easily wire it up.. with a much better language.
The tools were/are too expensive and Microsoft pile drove them from early dominance to niche by undercutting them handily, and it's been extractive rather than growth oriented since. There is the Lazarus/FreePascal project which offers an alternative.