Minerals represent potential biosignatures in the search for life on Mars
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·September 10, 2025stevenjgarner
pncnmnp
Some interesting stuff from the Nature paper
> The Perseverance rover has explored and sampled igneous and sedimentary rocks within Jezero Crater to characterize early Martian geological processes and habitability and search for potential biosignatures ..... the organic-carbon-bearing mudstones in the Bright Angel formation contain submillimetre-scale nodules and millimetre-scale reaction fronts enriched in ferrous iron phosphate and sulfide minerals, likely vivianite and greigite, respectively.
> Organic matter was detected in the Bright Angel area mudstone targets Cheyava Falls, Walhalla Glades and Apollo Temple by the SHERLOC instrument ..... A striking feature observed in the Cheyava Falls target (and the corresponding Sapphire Canyon core sample), is distinct spots (informally referred to as ‘leopard spots’ by the Mars 2020 Science Team) that have circular to crenulated dark-toned rims and lighter-toned cores
> PIXL XRF analyses of reaction front rims reveal they are enriched in Fe, P and Zn relative to the mudstone they occur in ..... In the reaction front cores, a phase enriched in S-, Fe-, Ni- and Zn was detected
> Given the potential challenges to the null hypothesis, we consider here an alternative biological pathway for the formation of authigenic nodules and reaction fronts. On Earth, vivianite nodules are known to form in fresh water ..... and marine ..... settings as a by-product of low-temperature microbially mediated Fe-reduction reactions.
> In summary, our analysis leads us to conclude that the Bright Angel formation contains textures, chemical and mineral characteristics, and organic signatures that warrant consideration as ‘potential biosignatures’ that is, “a feature that is consistent with biological processes and that, when encountered, challenges the researcher to attribute it either to inanimate or to biological processes, compelling them to gather more data before reaching a conclusion as to the presence or absence of life .....
I had to look up PIXL XRF from this paper - https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.01544 - it is:
> The Planetary Instrument for X-ray Lithochemistry (PIXL) is an X-ray fluorescence (XRF) spectrometer mounted on the arm of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s (NASA) Mars 2020 Perseverance rover (Allwood et al., 2020; Allwood et al., 2021). PIXL delivers a sub-millimeter focused, raster scannable X-ray beam, capable of determining the fine-scale distribution of elements in martian rock and regolith targets. PIXL was conceived following the work by Allwood et al. (2009) that demonstrated how micro-XRF elemental mapping could reveal the fine-textured chemistry of layered rock structures of ~3,450-million-year-old Archean stromatolitic fossils. Their work not only pushed back the accepted earliest possible window for the beginning of life on Earth, but also demonstrated that significant science return might be possible through XRF mapping. PIXL was proposed, selected, and developed to carry out petrologic exploration that provide the paleoenvironmental context required in the search for biosignatures on Mars, analogous to Allwood et al.’s earlier work.
awesome_dude
I like your analysis, but, personally, I am struggling with "Absence of data/other possibilities is pointing us to conclusion"
It should (IMO) be reported as, we just don't know (yet), there's some really fascinating things that we cannot explain in any other way, yet, but that doesn't actually mean that we know for sure.
pklausler
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galacticaactual
Ad hominem attack clearly based on your political leanings brings absolutely nothing to the table.
aurareturn
Kind of bad news for human kind if we find out the life also started in Mars. One Great Filter down.
JumpCrisscross
I think the filter was eukaryogenesis [1]. (Which in turn depends on the endosymbiosis of mitochondria.)
Put simply, I expect the universe is littered with single-celled life. I think multicellular life, on the other hand, is rare.
Qem
> Which in turn depends on the endosymbiosis of mitochondria.
Which in turn depends on existing enough atmospheric oxygen for mitochondria to make sense in first place. I believe the filter is atmospheric oxygen. If Earth had more iron in the crust, perhaps the cyanobacteria would never finish oxidizing all of it, and we would be doomed to only host microscopic life forever. Macroscopic life requires high-energy metabolism molecular oxygen allows.
estimator7292
It's pretty unlikely that life emerged independently on two planets in adjoining orbits.
The much more reasonable explanation is that life emerged on one planet and transferred over. Earth and Mars aren't particularly close, but they're close enough for material to transfer between them, particularly early in the solar system when there were far more asteroid impacts kicking rocks and dust out into space.
pantalaimon
Why would you say it's unlikely? For all we know simple life could emerge very easily if conditions are right and it's the step to complex life that's the hard one.
5tk18
Would you mind elaborating on this? I don’t understand the point. Maybe naively, I would think that evidence of life on mars would increase the probability of life on exoplanets.
nwah1
If the solution to the Fermi Paradox is that there's a great filter that prevents many advanced civilizations from sticking around long enough to be observable, then we hope that the filter is behind us rather than in front of us.
The more common that life is, the more likely it is in front of us.
Qem
If the origin is not independent, that doesn't necessarily change the position of the filter.
Razengan
The Fermi "Paradox" is based on so many naive self-referencing assumptions it's ridiculous that it's considered so seriously so often.
kjkjadksj
The elephant in the room here is that advanced intelligent life as we understand it is some inevitable step in evolution. A random walk of mutations on top of mutations lead us to this and only because the environmental context favored adaptions toward intelligence in the case of our species at the time. This is probably why most sci fi is not written by evolutionary biologists.
withinboredom
We’re working off the assumption that life is rare in the universe (and thus a great filter). That is why the stars aren’t covered in life.
If this isn’t true, and life is actually common throughout the galaxy ... then the great filter might still be ahead of us — such as not surviving technological adolescence. Meaning we’re not special, we just haven’t died off yet.
JumpCrisscross
> assumption that life is rare in the universe
Great filters start with the observation that we have detected no signs of alien technological civilization. The assumption is this means they’re rare.
estimator7292
Not really. The great filter idea is only one of many proposed solutions to the Fermi paradox. The Dark Forest hypothesis would have the universe filled with life, which is all in deep hiding from an intergalactic civilization hellbent on destroying all other life.
Personally I think the great filter is a dumb idea for precisely the reason you posit. The universe is (probably) infinite, which means there's an infinite probability that we aren't special or alone. Maybe we're the first; the universe is (relatively) pretty young from what we can tell. I doubt that too, but I think it's one of the most plausible explanations.
But really what it comes down to is that in an infinite universe, the probability of anything happening exaxtlt once is infinitely small. It is infinitely more probable that there is or will be other life out there.
Really, out of uncountable trillions of planets in trillions of galaxies across tens of billions of years, how could it be that exactly one planet can produce life? I think it's egotistical navel-gazing in the extreme to assume we're alone.
dgfitz
Oh, we thought that?
We aren’t special. We will die off.
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xg15
I guess the question is: If there was life on mars, what happened to it?
maxbond
Presumably the planet became much less geologically active, causing Mars to lose it's magnetic field and thus it's atmosphere, and that caused a mass extinction. If there was life on the surface in the past, I imagine it still exists deep underground or in lava tubes or such.
rrmm
I think the building blocks of life are so common in the universe it might be a case of "easy come, easy go". It wouldn't be surprising if simple life happened anywhere it was given half a chance at all, but one would equally expect that it would die out just as quickly when conditions changed (which they certainly did on Mars).
And of course nothing is ruling out life in the nooks and crannies of Mars.
estimator7292
We have proven that Mars used to have a magnetic field like Earth that protected it from solar radiation. We also know that it does not presently have a magnetic field. At some point in the distant past, Mars's core cooled and solidified, which removes the magnetic field.
The big problem is that the solar wind strips away the atmosphere and water, but that's (probably) not what killed all Martian life. As the magnetic field decreases, more and more harmful radiation reaches the surface. The planet was probably sterilized by radiation long before the atmosphere was lost and the oceans evaporated.
We're pretty sure this is what happened. We've been studying Mars's geology for a long time and we can see evidence for most of this process.
Qem
Likely, when Mars went bad, their planet B was Earth. Nowadays they call themselves Earthlings (AKA us).
empath75
That actually isn't a hard question to answer. Mars lacks an active core or a magnetosphere, so the atmosphere blew away, freezing the surface and removing almost all of the liquid water.
jordanb
The inner planets have exchanged a lot of material it's possible they also exchanged life. In fact I believe some theories for how life formed rely on it.
withinboredom
For all we know, life started on Mars, not here. Hence the "sudden explosion" of life.
elevaet
They keep pushing back the date of the LUCA - I think it's meant to be 4.2 billion years ago now, a time when Mars was more nurturing than it is now, maybe moreso than Earth at the time? I hope we find out it started on Mars and jumped to Earth, how cool would that be?
vlovich123
I prefer the theory that life is the natural evolution of physical chemical processes given certain conditions. That explains why we think that we’re likely to find life on Neptune. Otherwise it begs the question of why did life start on Mars, and that’s a turtles all the way down kind of situation.
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roncesvalles
In addition to one seeding the other, neighboring planets having life also gives support to extra-solar-system panspermia. An advanced civilization could've fired off the "seed" in some vehicles on calculated trajectories to all viable planets, and the Solar System happened to be within the radius of their efforts.
d1sxeyes
If that is true, then why does it seem that there has been only a single origin event on Earth?
aurareturn
"You start with a random clump of atoms, and if you shine light on it for long enough, it should not be so surprising that you get a plant." -Jeremy England
Life increases entropy and doesn't break 2nd law of thermodynamics.
lawlessone
neptune?
soiltype
I don't think there's any reasonable way to call that a likely scenario though. If life did emerge on Mars, why wouldn't it also emerge on Earth? For both planets to have life, the most likely explanation is that it's just common.
treis
Still seems fairly speculative to me. I think it's very likely that there was life given all the water but this is still a ways away from a smoking gun.
rrmm
You are right: this is indeed no smoking gun (and it isn't hyped to be one). This is more like "we can't rule out life having created this, but there are alternate explanations which have also not been ruled out".
Unfortunately most of the evidence is going to be like this. The chances for better evidence would probably require a sample return of some sort, and even then I wouldn't expect a smoking gun (either way).
zokier
Smoking gun needs sample return, and the current outlook for that mission is not great.
jenadine
> Clearest sign' yet of ancient life on Mars
Is it more clear than the presence of artificial canals on the planet? Because at the time, the signs were quite clear as well.
turtletontine
This is a silly comparison. The article itself does not contain any phrase like "Clearest Sign Yet of Ancient Life on Mars", it was someone else's decision to give it the clickbait title here.
I'm not an expert on the topic here, but at arm's length this sure seems like responsible scientists doing their best to rigorously study something with some crazy implications. They're not saying "OMG guys there was life on mars!!!!", they're saying from what we can tell with Perseverance's little portable lab these rocks sure seem consistent with a biosignature. Their conclusion is that gee it would be great to have samples brought back to earth for better analysis, which... maybe one day, who knows? Here's what they actually say:
Ultimately, we conclude that analysis of the core sample collected from this unit using high-sensitivity instrumentation on Earth will enable the measurements required to determine the origin of the minerals, organics and textures it contains.
stevenjgarner
> it was someone else's decision to give it the clickbait title here
Is it notable that the "someone else" is Acting NASA Administrator Sean Duffy referring to the publication with “After a year of review, they have come back and they said, listen, we can’t find another explanation, so this very well could be the clearest sign of life that we’ve ever found on Mars"?
JumpCrisscross
> Is it more clear than the presence of artificial canals on the planet?
…yes. Exhibit A is TFA. Exhibit B is the claim that there is ancient life has a lower burden of proof than that there was an ancient technological civilization.
Qem
Related comics: https://www.badspacecomics.com/post/apostles-of-mercy
If we eventually find martian microbes, or at least their fossils, my bet is that we'll find them to be related to us.
zokier
Just as a side note, this rock has been garnering lot of interest pretty much immediately as it was discovered a year ago. There were also few papers published this spring hinting at biological origin.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/26/science/nasa-perseverance...
https://earthsky.org/space/life-on-mars-leopard-spots-poppy-...
So if you feel like you heard this story before, then it's probably one of the previous times this rock made the rounds
stevenjgarner
I think the notable thing this time is Acting NASA Administrator Sean Duffy referring to the (current) Sep 10th Nature paper by summarizing that “After a year of review, they have come back and they said, listen, we can’t find another explanation, so this very well could be the clearest sign of life that we’ve ever found on Mars, which is incredibly exciting.”
mrtksn
What happened with the organic gases in the upper atmosphere of Venus? I would love it if we find that the life in the universe is ubiquitous. I'm inclined to believe that this should be the case anyway.
lawlessone
Is this like a banded iron formation?
kjkjadksj
I’ve read that NASA has chosen landing sites that specifically have evidence of ancient rather than more recent or even present day water, with the logic that they do not want to potentially contaminate a site with active martian life with earth based microbes.
Can anyone speak more towards this or identify some of these potential sites that harbor life on mars? Will we ever directly probe somewhere that likely harbors life?
JumpCrisscross
> NASA has chosen landing sites that specifically have evidence of ancient rather than more recent or even present day water
Source?
PowerWordPoint
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“After a year of review, they have come back and they said, listen, we can’t find another explanation,” said Acting NASA Administrator Sean Duffy. “So this very well could be the clearest sign of life that we’ve ever found on Mars, which is incredibly exciting.” [1]
[1] https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/10/science/nasa-mars-sapphire-fa...