Open music foundation models for full-song generation
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·August 4, 2025ssalka
someothherguyy
> Additionally, our memorization-effect experiments in Section 11 demonstrate that our design maintains creativity without plagiarizing, even under strong training set conditioning.
lotyrin
Very nice. Anyone know of projects that aren't tackling the full-song problem but rather instrument parts/loops/stems/acapellas? I'd like something that's more like "infinite AI Loopcloud/Splice" most of these full-song models don't do well to be asked for individual parts in my experience (though I will have to try it with this one).
platers
https://suno.com/studio-waitlist Just a waitlist so far, but looks like this is the direction suno is going
lotyrin
Yeah... I hope this is what their plan is with that, but I'm not entirely certain.
rwmj
Also live AI dueting would be interesting, like having a virtual guitarist you could jam/duet with.
lotyrin
Yeah. Or like, a loop that plays continuously and has style parameters exposed you can tweak with a controller like a Midi Fighter Twister and get feedback from in real-time. Then you could do something akin to DJ/live production by having two of these going in sync with each other into a mixer. (Tweak params of the cue track until you like it, transition at a phrase point, repeat).
dingnuts
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senko
It does seem capable of stirring a lot of emotion, if your comment is any indication.
bongodongobob
The idea that all music is this super special blood sweat and tears spiritual thing is bullshit. Pop music is written to sell money and this doesn't prevent artists from doing their thing. Relax and let people like things.
QuercusMax
This is the fast food of music. It's soulless, and steals from real artists.
bongodongobob
Fast food doesn't steal from gourmet restaurants. If it's so bad, who cares?
Something interesting... the first 10 seconds or so of the "Death Growl" example[1] is basically copied verbatim from "Ov Fire And The Void" by Behemoth.
More specifically, I think the part that seems copied is at 2:13 of the original[2], as it leads into a solo-ish bit which in the AI version sounds similar still, but goes on to do its own thing:
[1] https://map-yue.github.io/music/moon.death_metal.mp3
[2] https://youtu.be/vAmnsKKrt9w?t=133