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Ex-Waymo engineers launch Bedrock Robotics to automate construction

ecshafer

I think that more than physics the bottleneck for this is political (at least in the US). All of the local large projects around me are expensive because of massive amounts of red tape (environmental studies, zoning, planning), and political patronage systems. After the kick backs, political donations, promises to only work 8 hours a day, only use union labor, hire x police officers for y hours in overtime security positions a month, use xyz contractor etc. a small cost seems to be the actual labor and materials. Hell these robots if they work will be made illlegal.

cycomanic

Do you have any evidence or are you just pulling this out of thin air? All sources I can find estimate pre construction costs between 3 and 10% depending on type of infrastructure and where it is (the US according to [1] is on the lower end with 3-5%). To put this in perspective the profit margins on construction projects is 7% according to [2], which also does attribute skilled labour shortages as the main factor behind increasing construction cost.

[1] https://srgexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/The-cost-of... [2] https://publications.turnerandtownsend.com/international-con...

hollywood_court

I work for a home builder. Our single biggest problem is finding and hiring quality contractors that have enough skilled tradesmen.

There are dozens of electrical contractors in my area. But only two that perform work to our standards.

There is only one HVAC company that can meet our standards. Same for all of the other skilled trades.

Our framing crew is the best within a 75 mile radius. Other builders are constantly trying to poach them from us. We keep throwing money at them to prevent them from going to another builder.

Non skilled labor like landscaping and pest control are a dime a dozen. I just fired our main pesticide and herbicide contractor today because they couldn’t get it together.

Of course I had them replaced before I fired them but I had almost 20 options to choose from.

Unfortunately I can’t say the same about all of the skilled contractors.

toomuchtodo

Appreciate you highlighting the need for unions. Hopefully the skilled trades shortage persists indefinitely, otherwise they’d be treated just as you mentioned: disposable and interchangeable. The scarcity is the only thing protecting these folks at the moment.

https://www.jchs.harvard.edu/blog/rebuilding-construction-tr...

benreesman

I doubt you meant it this way, but that last bit hits a little rough. It's good that you are able to hire people when you have vacancies, and it's good that you don't have to be at the mercy of some insane rent-seeking because one crew in town has managed to monopolize one of your inputs.

But saying it's unfortunate that you can't just whack anyone at will with 20 people lined up behind them jobless is wishing for a pretty bad situation right? If all your positions were filled by someone with 20 jobless people standing behind them, who would buy the homes you build?

britzkopf

Framing is skilled, but landscaping and pest control are unskilled? Are you living in a well framed house overrun with mice and a terrible yard? I've done some framing. With a communicative foreman and a straightforward building design I did not find it that hard.

msgodel

Well yeah you've practically done the same thing that's been done with software where juniors need education plus three years of experience for their first job so you have no juniors.

eagleinparadise

I work in commercial real estate.

There are massive amounts of monopoly/duopoly interests in construction. Want to build affordable housing? Well if you are taking public dollars, you have to work with certain vendors which are approved and meet certain qualifications. Guess what, only 2 electrical vendors are approved! And so they work together and act as a racket to hold your project hostage unless you meet them on their terms.

Actually had a call today with an exec with one of the largest construction general contractors and this topic of "we can't do XYZ project [e.g. compete in that type of project type... driving costs down through competition] because we hire ABC union labor and it would screw us and our relations with the unions we work with."

Every developer has a war story of getting burned exactly in some way by being beholden to political or labor issues.

This results in higher costs... which ultimately is one of the main issues among others.

andrekandre

  > we hire ABC union labor and it would screw us and our relations with the unions we work with
would maybe an industry-wide union fix that issue?

appreciatorBus

That 7% is for the projects that actually happen. This misses all the projects that don’t when start because they don’t pencil due to the phenomenon that the original poster mentioned.

If you want to see it up close and personal, go to any Public Hearing in your city for any new construction of any kind, and watch 100 of your neighbours who have already benefitted from past construction lineup to oppose the prospect of any additional construction for anyone else. It’s not just that it adds a few percent costs, it’s that it drastically reduces the number of projects people even try to build.

nickff

Construction costs are not the only costs relating to development and redevelopment. Financing and project risk are also quite significant. Issues that push back the start of construction vastly increase financing costs, and increase construction costs. A delay in getting a permit, or a stop work order because of an environmental lawsuit runs up the interest payments on the loan used to purchase the real estate, as well as increasing the impact of inflation, delaying the revenue, and impacting trades’ schedules, all of which reduce the ROI of the project. These are just some of the issues caused by delays.

jaggederest

But how often do those things actually happen, and is it a substantial enough difference to actually affect the cost of building housing at a fundamental level? Remember that houses have more than tripled in cost this century in most places. A few percent is not going to substantially affect something that has increased in price 340%.

mmmBacon

You need look no further than the poster child of red tape delayed construction projects: California High Speed Rail.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/04/us/high-speed-rail-califo...

EliasLittle

I’m curious if this is an example of survivorship bias though. I don’t have any data, but I can easily imagine lots of projects not getting built at all due to zoning laws or the red tape cost being too high.

zdragnar

I've worked for two companies who would have done business with governments but ended up refusing to do so because the regulatory burdens exceeded the value of the contract.

The first was intel analysis software (DOD contract), and the second was in mental health (medicare and state medicaid contracts). In the first case, they even considered hiring a company who exists solely to help other companies navigate the government procurement process.

mogwire

Honestly do you not think what he is saying isn't true?

Do you think they count the items he mentioned in the total costs?

Every major project in America has undocumented costs to go along with the miles of red tape. Just look at California's High Speed Rail.

Where I live they wanted to extend the expressway and it was overwhelmingly supported. So why, 6 years later hasn't it happened? The environmentalist sued to get a survey done that took 2 years to find.... no impact. The county commissioners got voted out and now the new ones want certain promises. The company that got the original no bid contract is owned by a brother of a former commissioner so that led to law suits. People sued because they don't want the new exits to be too close to their house. Others sued because they felt the exits would targets towards higher end homes and didn't equally consider everyone. Then you have the demands that we use ONLY AMERICAN LABOUR!!! and ONLY AMERICAN MATERIALS!!! A state representative said they would boycott the expansion unless a certain percentage of his constitutions were hired to do the work regardless of their qualifications. Another said they would block it due to road noise and complaints from his constitutions unless compensation was made.

It goes on and on and each one costs money they don't count in the official budget.

bryanlarsen

That's not red tape. That's politics. Europe is notorious for red tape, yet can do large transit projects for an order of magnitude less cost than America can.

America needs more red tape. Red tape is explicit rules and procedures. In Europe you can make sure your project follows all of the explicit rules and procedures and then you can proceed. Nobody can come and try and stop you because you just say "I followed the rules", and continue.

OTOH in America the rules and procedures aren't explicit. They're embodied in court precedent (like the environmentalist who sued) and in gatekeepers like the county commissioners.

slt2021

this stuff needs to be made illegal. If state gives approval to build stuff according to spec, then nobody should be able to block, unless there is major deviation from spec

aaron695

Where I am it's $90,000 - $240,000 to subdivide land from one to two.

Not including costs post-subdividing like selling the empty lot and tax's.

Obviously the new buyer has building costs, but you might have to demolish the existing house to divide, good chance it was in the middle.

On top of all this is the years to divide the property.

On top of all this you can't then build what you want on the new property.

On top of all this is the years to build on the empty lots.

These all have a $$$ cost.

$240,000 to quickly divide and rebuild high density, no one would care about that cost, that's ~$0.

So the houses you can end up with can't be tight practical buildings, it's $$$$$ for permits and land and time. So this robot will help build mega mansions for single families.

pj_mukh

I think this is true, but even after a construction company works through all the approvals the sheer cost of construction is insurmountable. A big part of this is obviously (sometimes union) labor. This happened recently in NIMBY-HQ Berkeley as interest rates crept up [1]. Pre-approved construction sites are sitting empty.

I am off the (not so controversial) opinion that labor should be paid fair wages, but I think it's also fair to use tech like this to multiply labor productivity.

The last piece is the cost of raw materials, which has also ballooned.

[1]: https://www.berkeleyside.org/2025/04/04/berkeley-housing-dow...

rooppal

More than just red-tape there's whitecollar processes in pre-construction that take months. Just estimating the cost of each subtrade is a process currently done by hand on blueprints (what I work on automating).

`white_collar_automation * robotics_automation = building more, cheaper`

JumpCrisscross

> A big part of this is obviously (union) labor

I live in Wyoming. We don’t have many unions. The cost scourge is still there due to red tape and general fuckery.

bryanlarsen

You wrote this in a separate comment: "There is a well-documented cost premium to building in America that isn’t explained by complexity or wages."

I am fairly confident that Europe has a lot more red tape than Wyoming. Yet it's considerably cheaper to build large projects in Europe.

taurath

Red or blue, those who own property own the levers of power to determine what gets built.

I’ve yet to meet anyone who thinks utterly stifling construction restrictions are a good thing, yet they seem to exist everywhere.

bluGill

Unions don't help but in most casese they are a tiny problem. The real question is which red tape is really there for good reason.

scrubs

Wanna know what we need? MARPA: management and research process advancement.

Yes or no: can the USA get a medium sized build done on time and budget comparable to the top 15% worldwide?

There has to be way to kick this problem in the butt. And i think management side has gotta step up

matthewolfe

I believe SchemeFlow [0] is working on solving some of these problem, particularly with the insane reporting requirements. But of course, that still leaves the unions...

[0] https://www.schemeflow.com/

esseph

If there are no jobs, you don't need unions!

dmix

The unions will use their government connections to force the job to exist even if it doesn't need to be. They'll figure out a way to get a union driver sitting in an fully autonomous truck for some invented safety checkbox

I remember Louis CK said he had a hell of a time trying to run his own comedy shows so he could offer lower ticket prices for his fans, but because every bit of the theaters were unionized it got really expensive fast and failed. They couldn't even touch the curtains, they had to pay a union guy to stand around all day and his only job was pulling a curtain cord at the right time. Which was some NYC rule.

kevinmpeterson

There is red tape and certainly there are planning bottlenecks, but the GCs already deal with this. Once a project is funded and started, an established GC will move quickly to execute on projects. Also - some states (CA in particular) have an absurd amount of red tape. If you go to states like Texas, it's much easier. Robotic tools are pretty common already (machine guidance for bulldozers, remote ops for excavators, mine trucks), so there's good precedent. We view our machines as tools for people to use, and given the labor challenges, have a ton of customer interest as a result.

jjcm

To wargame the a rebuttal to this, the red tape might be circumvented just because there aren't rules to govern robotic work. You can fully agree to only use union labor, to only have humans working 8 hour days, or to only use certain contractors for hired work, simply because these systems aren't human operated (likely they will be early on, but you could spin it as this).

There are laws for people, but not necessarily for tools.

htrp

they will put the rules on place for automated tools very easily ( look at how every state is pulling together a patchwork of AI regulation)

jdmena321

Politics certainly adds layers of cost, but it doesn’t change the fact that budget overruns almost always stem from unpredictable, non‑political variables, sudden material price hikes, weather delays, labor shortages, or subcontractor disputes.

xyst

> a small cost seems to be the actual labor and materials

Say less.

HN used to be a message board to gain better knowledge around certain topics, but seems it more or less has the same armchair dilettantes that plague other platforms.

themanmaran

One big barrier I haven't seen mentioned is all the OEM competition they are going to face.

Caterpillar, John Deer, etc. already have remote operation vehicles. And a lot of provisions on what types of kits can be retrofitted onto their equipment without violating their terms/warranties.

I'm sure this is already something they've taken into consideration, but it seems like this will be more focused on partnerships with existing OEMs rather than selling add on kits to current fleets.

CGMthrowaway

>One big barrier I haven't seen mentioned is all the OEM competition they are going to face.

Seems like that is a pro not a con. An exit scenario

khurs

The money raised is $80m rather than $800m which likely reflects all the challenges faced.

It's the kinda startup that may be able to pivot easier than others.

_carbyau_

> One big barrier I haven't seen mentioned is all the OEM competition they are going to face.

Not sure on this one. The company likely has it's own vision but I've thought for a while that a swarm of small electric rubber tracked earth moving vehicles (small enough to fit one or two in a tradies van?) could work longer hours due to being much quieter. For larger jobs you put a single person in a small tower on overwatch and run it 24 hours a day.

This'd give you a somewhat scalable approach from small residential jobs to somewhat larger jobs while not competing against the incumbents directly and allowing you to work out the kinks. Then if it makes sense later, you build bigger machines with hopefully better battery technology.

Ultimately though, for proper big jobs, you need proper big tools. Maybe a partnership or "exit strategy" works.

Though maybe I've played too many RTS games like Supreme Commander...

echelon

> Caterpillar, John Deer, etc. already have remote operation vehicles. And a lot of provisions on what types of kits can be retrofitted onto their equipment without violating their terms/warranties.

Sounds ripe for disruption, then.

If a startup demonstrates promise, VC money will flood in. Then it's just a balancing of economics. Is the new VC-backed method cheaper? If so, the incumbents will lose market share relative to the value prop.

kevinmpeterson

CAT, Deere are both doing very interesting things with older autonomy techniques. Deere has acquired several companies, and partnered with others to bring in talent from outside. CAT has worked with outside companies (notably Trimble, Topcon) for key technologies when it makes a big difference. Both are awesome companies, but not AI/ML companies at the core and it'll take a lot of work for them to get there. I think this is very much like the self driving world 10 years ago where OEMs tried very hard to become software companies, but ultimately Cruise and Waymo were the ones that executed.

beau_g

To the parent posters point though, those manufacturers are holding outsized control over what can be retrofit to their machines, so to disrupt them, you have to make your own machines. Working on and owning heavy equipment myself, I of course have looked at it and thought there's a lot to improve, but at the the same time, I don't really see where the big brain Silicon Valley + venture bucks ethos can be applied to the space, it would be a long and slow grind of doing mostly straightforward mechanical engineering and supply chain/vendor agreements to build something like a bulldozer, just to enter a near impenetrable market due to many existing sunk costs and long relationships between buyers and the existing manufacturers.

bluGill

The manufactures are aware of monopoly laws and will give you the 'key' to put your own thing on and even sell it - for a 'reasonable fee' which may be six figures and proff you will care about safety. Universities have got the key for student projects (under nda)

disclosure: I work for jonh deere but am not speaking for the company. The above is all I feel I can say on the subject

defrost

Equipment operators are lead by their largest clients, mining companies such as Rio Tinto for example.

24/7/365 large fleet operators that move a billion tonne of ore per annum and alter the spin balance of the planet by a detectable amount.

Pages such as https://www.riotinto.com/en/mn/about/innovation/automation are out of date and don't do justice to the extant of and demand for grand scale semi autonomous mining and construction equipment.

BBC coverage of one site and mining automation: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgej7gzg8l0o

There's a large yet to be built copper project in the US that has autonomus mining plans in the economic technical report.

https://resolutioncopper.com/mining-method/

https://resolutioncopper.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/RTRC...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_Copper#Reactions

kevinmpeterson

I'm the CTO and one of the founders of Bedrock. I was very pleasantly surprised to see the excitement from this crowd! Happy to answer any questions about us (and will look through the comment threads here). We're looking for really really awesome MLEs and software engineers, so if you're interested take a look at our careers page https://bedrockrobotics.com/careers

dolebirchwood

Small piece of feedback: It takes far too much scrolling to get to the list of open roles. Maybe that's deliberate, so you know your applicants are truly serious about working for you, but I could see a lot of potentially highly-qualified candidates just dropping off due to plain annoyance.

noosphr

Are you planning on using humanoid robots as drop in replacements for humans using the same tools?

scythe

I read your careers page out of curiosity. It's like all software and equipment (what I interpret from "hardware"). Shouldn't you also hire some structural engineers and similar?

taeric

I didn't think open field construction was hampered by the humans in the loop? Quite the contrary, I was under the naive impression that the heavy machinery was already largely doing the vast majority of the work. Even when operated by a human.

Will be neat to see where this goes. But I'm reminded of some Amazon guys that were supposed to revitalize the supply chains. My memory is that that didn't work out so well.

ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7

CAT and others (hyundai, hitachi, john deere, kubota, komatsu, etc) are already exploring this sort of automation (and have been for at least a decade).

This isn't somehow a new industry because some Waymo engineers decided to make a company.

JumpCrisscross

Exploring. If these guys bring something to the table, it will become part of one of theirs’ exploration.

echelon

Venture dollars won't back those legacy efforts.

This may be an instance of companies not having enough capital or talent to fend off new entrants.

Talent will flock to the new and exciting. The place where they can get the bigger exit and work with the coolest people.

taeric

The odds that these companies don't have moats to protect their tech is... very unlikely?

whatever1

It is not easy to find on demand trained operators that are willing to relocate in an instant to whatever forgotten by god construction site you set up for months.

AngryData

It is if you aren't adverse to training people and living with lower productivity for a few months as they learn. The biggest obstacle to becoming a heavy equipment operator is finding someone willing to put you in heavy equipment without already being an experienced heavy equipment operator. And the machines cost enough money that someone can't afford to just go buy their own excavator and practice, even really old used equipment that leaks fluids and can't run more than 20 minutes without overheating can cost 6 figures, especially if you also need a truck and large equipment trailer to move it. And even if someone likes the job and gets past those obstacles there are other restrictions, like drug usage, that keeps many people out of the business. You went home and smoked a joint last week but this week something broke or went wrong? Well you better hope they don't fear any liability because they will drug test you, fire you, and black list you to shed all liability.

_zoltan_

I think that's perfectly OK. If you consume drugs don't operate heavy equipment.

taeric

I find this hard to believe, to be honest. The capital costs of the machinery is already such that paying a premium to relocate someone for the duration of the construction is almost certainly not the bottle neck for most construction jobs?

If you have numbers on this, I'm game to see them. Just because I find it hard to believe doesn't mean I think it is impossible.

cycomanic

This report identifies skilled labour shortages as the main risk and factor behind construction cost inflation.

https://publications.turnerandtownsend.com/international-con...

kevinmpeterson

There are companies (like Kiewit) that specifically hire and pay (a lot more) to incentivize their employees to travel. It's a really really hard job and many people burn out. The travel is brutal.

renewiltord

In China they haven't needed that for the better part of a decade https://en.xcmg.com/en-ap/news/news-detail-626577.htm

winrid

It's interesting because the heavy machinery already replaced 20-50 humans. Now somehow that one person that has a job is an issue.

namibj

If you can automate efficiently enough, you can build far finer structures.

For example look at how detailed the structure and weld arrangement is for modern cars, vs. back when robots only just started to take care of the frame welding on the assembly line.

Or how optical HDMI cables are affordable because they use fully automated UV-cure-resin-glued fiber alignment straight from the cable end into the optoelectronic chips, without needing optical connectors or any other human-labor to get the light path connected up. That's how they manage to do it the conceptually easiest way: amplifier->laser->fiber->photodiode->amplifier, and repeat for the 4 high-speed pairs. Also handing the low speed communication channel separately with just normal wires as signal degradation isn't an issue for that.

Or for example 3d printer infill: that's something no one would do manually in such a way, but if it's just automated it's quite desirable/efficient.

App rental e-scooters: they rely on automation to organize even when parked "pretty much anywhere they're not gonna block traffic", and as such become relevant for even short trips.

If you have an unsupervised robot that lays bricks for you to build up a house, you can get away with smaller bricks (and thus a lighter/cheaper machine needing a smaller crane to lift up/out of higher floors), than if you need a human to supervise it.

Smaller machine if slower means more machines, meaning cheaper production of the machines due to scale.

Auto-feeders for nail guns in construction means more smaller nails as placing 3 in a row takes barely longer than just 2. Especially if the nail gun could, say, run like an optical mouse and automatically trigger at a configured spacing while dragged along a surface with the trigger held down.

echelon

Do you know how much California High Speed Rail is over budget?

What if we could bring massive infrastructure projects down from the billions to the millions? Wouldn't that be a great thing for all of society?

What if we could build new power plants, connect all cities with HSR, rebuild all our old bridges, add thousands of new skyscrapers, and do it all under budget?

Think about what steel did for society. Automated construction is the next highest order step function change. It'll be insanely good for society.

winrid

What a joke. HSR is not over budget because of construction equipment. It's over budget because of bureaucracy and useless middlemen.

daedrdev

CEQA has added a stupendous amount of cost to California's HSR.

taeric

It is not lack of knowing how to build rail that is keeping HSR over budget and never finished. It is lack of will. Largely driven from lack of direct need.

Sophistifunk

The wasted time and money in construction comes entirely from two places: a small percentage of crooked builders (and their local council mates), and the bureaucracy that is trying to protect the citizens from same. Big brother puts in a lot of hoop-jumps standards and supposed checks and balances that end up creating massive delays and costs for the consumer, but the actual standards (while usually quite sensible) are easily sidestepped by the crooked builders, so the war continues, and the overhead constantly increases with the usual expansion-only government regulation ratchet.

None of these things are susceptible to "AI" and other such automation. We have had prefab construction for decades.

Duanemclemore

I'm an architect. Well really now an architecture professor who (elevator pitch) writes computational tools to implement sophisticated geometries in advanced fabrication...

That's all to say I want advancements in jobsite automation desperately. But it's WAY harder than people from other domains think. Imagine driving on a road while you're also building it while others are doing both around you too...

These folks seem to be concentrating at the moment on excavation which (without looking) if I recall is already a pretty active and developed in terms of automation. But get out of the ground and you hit some pretty big issues pretty quick. To get a sense, heres's one of my go-to articles when people wonder about jobsite automation...

https://www.construction-physics.com/p/where-are-the-robotic...

brudgers

Construction is dominated by scheduling. The high bit of construction scheduling looks a lot like job shop scheduling and job shop scheduling is NP Hard. To the degree that is true, there are no generic optimization algorithms.

But like all real world optimization problems, better solutions based on the specific nature of the inputs are usually possible.

In the case of construction scheduling, relationships are the most likely route to optimization. You can dig all night long, but if the plumber does’t show up in the morning to lay pipe, your schedule is not improved and the plumber shows up in the morning at your job site because of the long term business relationship across many projects instead of some other jobsite.

[I practiced architecture in the past. Everything takes as long as it takes].

fidotron

This will prove to be a strange business.

Civil engineering is already a field where the very largest projects are done by humans planning and building the roads and bridges for the robots to move in (such as things rented from Mammoet [1] with extra control systems), but it does require significant human oversight (typically a metaphorical red button).

It's all very one off and specific, and given how big those projects are that seems unlikely to change. The manufacturing of suburbs though would be a whole different ballgame.

[1] Specifically https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-propelled_modular_transpo...

ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7

Do you know anything about the current state of this? I think large construction equipment providers are already doing this?

thelastgallon

First, real estate in US designed to be the sink for excess money globally gained by nefarious means, sell and make the money clean.

Second, all the prep work before actual construction costs the same regardless of the size of the home. Its profitable for builders to build large homes (cheaper per square foot) and sell them at a premium.

Third, zoning laws that make anything thats not a SFH mostly illegal to build.

Fourth, manufactured homes are illegal in most areas.

Finally, The building codes are localized to each county, there is no federal/state building code.

As long as these perverse incentives exist, costs are not going to come down.

stego-tech

This feels more plausible for long-term success than Waymo for a number of reasons:

* Construction sites are smaller in footprint

* They’re more easily covered in sensor networks to support autonomous operations

* They’re typically controlled-access environments, which reduces potential interruptions to automated routines

* Since they have higher risk profiles than public infrastructure, the expectation is that workers will be more aware of autonomous operations and any deviations before they cause serious harm

Honestly, I’d wager closed-site autonomy takes off before anyone nails national or global self-driving on existing infrastructure.

whatever1

The flip side is that they work with a lot more degrees of freedom (a car has just steering and speed to adjust), very diverse machinery and a ton more exceptions that need to be handled frequently

stego-tech

True, but they have more freedom to attack low-hanging fruits and build capabilities in order of ease. With a self-driving car, there’s not a whole lot of iteration allowed - you have your capital to do R&D, but eventually investors expect that car to drive on public roads without incident or support, something nobody can do at the moment.

For construction sites, on the other hand, you could (more) easily automate things like dump trucks or material transports using preprogrammed routes and manual triggers when something is done or needed. Then you can iterate on those systems to add more capabilities, more automations, more integrations with other equipment.

Kind of like how tractors have iteratively improved over time because they benefit from a lot of the same limitations as construction sites. At least that’s my thinking on it.

whatever1

Definitely they can keep slicing the problem and deliver viable solutions within the boundary specified.

I just don’t think that a single solution will cover the full suite of construction site machinery. Scaling will be tough. But as you said they will be printing cash in the meantime.

ChuckMcM

I could see this really accelerating strip mining or deforestation in places where there either isn't a lot of local opposition or there is a favorable regulatory environment. It makes me wonder if Tinto is an investor.

ripped_britches

Banks generally aren’t allowed to finance strip mining

Deforestation is usually bottlenecked by major multi-million dollar equipment, not hourly unskilled laborers

brudgers

My desire to believe in the technology runs aground upon the Conjunction Fallacy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjunction_fallacy

To build a commercially successful autonomous bulldozer requires building a commercially successful bulldozer. That’s hardware and hardware is hard. Probably harder than the autonomous part because bulldozers are a century past the proof-of-concept era.

My cynical take is this is financial engineering more than construction engineering. YMMV.

xnx

> To build a commercially successful autonomous bulldozer requires building a commercially successful bulldozer.

Wouldn't it only be necessary to put a "robot" in the driver's seat of any existing dozer?

shorbaji

I wonder what fraction of the hardware goes into hosting the human operator and into ensuring their safety. How much hardware cam be optimized away when there is no longer a human operator?

kevinmpeterson

Waymo doesn't build cars

padjo

“executes work around the clock” of limited value given quite a bit of construction is subject to restrictions on operating hours.

barbazoo

Think of any construction that's remote though. Especially infrastructure. Wouldn't it be cool if a bunch of excavators could just work all day and night to dig that trench, move that huge amount of dirt from one place to another? I feel like there are lots of situations where automation could be done.

brudgers

At the scale where automated earth moving equipment makes economic sense, those restrictions often won’t apply. Highway construction and other vertically integrated projects are where this potentially makes sense.

Operating hours are the least of logistical hurdles for most projects. Schedule coordination dominates and the critical path can only move as fast as the slowest element on it.

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