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BYOK – Bring Your Own Keyboard

BYOK – Bring Your Own Keyboard

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·June 21, 2025

wenc

There are a bunch of distraction-free writing devices, from the BYOK to the Freewrite. They range for $100 - $500.

List here: https://kadavy.net/distraction-free-writing-devices/

To me, YAGNI.

Let me suggest two cheaper alternatives (battletested by me):

1. Fountain pen and a nice notebook with nice paper (Mnemosyne, or Rhodia)

2. A foldable Bluetooth butterfly keyboard ($43 on Amazon) paired to an old tablet (I have an old iPad Air 2) with Wifi turned off and no apps except a writing app. Google Docs works in offline mode! (this is what I use in cafes when I’m traveling). I recommend a Samsers keyboard. This is what I have:

https://a.co/d/3kIJZsv

I love good typography and I just can’t with these distraction free devices. The iPad Air 2 has a retina screen that displays beautiful typography.

Forget e-ink devices — they might sound like a good idea at first, but their refresh rate is slow enough to be annoying.

If you don’t need portability, an old DOS PC running Wordstar or WordPerfect is also distraction free. I used to write long articles for my school newsletter using nothing but Wordstar.

jval43

100% agreed. Save your money. That's also my opinion after spending several thousand on a couple of these devices over the years, only to find that they don't solve my problems.

E-ink is slow and is hard to read because of the low contrast. And contrary to all the marketing it actually increased eyestrain for me because it's so dark.

Not to mention the software on all the tablets I had was severely lacking, slow and buggy, and the subscriptions tacked on top felt outright offensive to me.

1. I'd go one further and say the nice paper notebooks and pens haven't worked for me either. Instead I just use a free A5 paper notepad and pen I have laying around.

2. Agreed with iPad + keyboard as an actual alternative. The retina 120Hz screens of the Pro models really help. Reading PDFs is a joy, even when compared to a large A4 e-ink device I had. It's just so much faster on the iPad.

Although I use it with Wifi on, I don't have many apps installed on it and basically all notifications disabled. I'm in the iOS ecosystem so everything just syncs, which means less work and mental overhead organizing my notes and reminders.

I'd recommend the iPad Pro Magic Keyboard though, it's expensive but snaps in place and feels great.

jimbob45

1. Fountain pen and a nice notebook with nice paper (Mnemosyne, or Rhodia)

Spending money is overrated. The pen at the back of your junk drawer from a hotel you don’t remember staying at will do just fine. There’s a notebook in there too that’s as good as new if you just rip out the first page.

Workaccount2

The question is how gimped the device is going to be if you don't want to lease their software monthly?

There is a special place in hell for people who make hardware that runs static software, but still withhold ownership just so they can indefinitely bilk money from you.

ddejohn

> so they can indefinitely bilk money from you

Or just stop supporting altogether, a la Spotify Car Thing.

KevinCarbonara

I've never understood these devices. I get that they're for people who just don't have impulse control, and need some sort of hard separation between play and work. But inevitably, these devices become the abstraction. People obsess over the features and look for upgrades and otherwise immerse themselves in trivialities, because buying a device still doesn't improve your impulse control.

wenc

Writing isn’t a linear process. You need to keep enough of a context window viewable and to scroll/jump to different parts quickly.

Devices without fast refresh or a large enough screen are unsuitable for many of today’s writers except for the very few who write linearly (streams of consciousness).

A word processor is a tool of thought. You need to be able to manipulate thoughts easily in it. Small devices don’t serve this purpose well.

ryukoposting

There's a guy I see at my local coffee shop who uses a word processor. Based on what I found on eBay, I think it might be an AlphaSmart. If so, it would have run him about $75. I thought about getting a similar device, as I also write a lot, but settled on a $90 used laptop instead.

Not seeing the case for spending $175 and only getting half a word processor. If portability was the goal, an external keyboard goes against that. If the goal was better ergonomics, the screen wouldn't be the size and shape of a table tent. So... why?

notjulianjaynes

I once wrote a ~2,000 word draft,on an alpha-smart ($6 at a goodwill) and then couldn't get the transfer to computer function to work correctly, so I had to rewrite the whole thing because I wasn't gonna sit there and manually re-type three lines at a time from the grayscale LCD. The subsequent draft was actually better though, so for this reason I would recommend such a device. It's also a fun novelty thing. Really though, if you keep getting distracted from your writing, maybe consider if it's because you don't actually have anything to say?

wenc

Writing things twice is actually a technique for improving quality.

https://grantslatton.com/software-pathfinding

_345

its a toy for techies. i see crap like this on youtube all the time. useless and impractical tech that people gobble up because were all children at heart and we like toys even if we're grown ups now. but it annoys me nonetheless because i always can't help but think "when would i ever use this...?"

joeblubaugh

If you’re charging $200 you should really be able to see more than 15 lines of text at a time.

I know the idea is to be distraction-free but it’s hard to justify over a basic writing app on the phone you already own, which includes a nicer screen.

Aurornis

Where do you see 15 lines?

In the video they show the 3 text size modes. The smallest text size only shows 8 lines, even though the text on the screen claims it goes to 11: https://youtu.be/5hV8xfhdk7c?t=208 (3:28) I can't imagine 15 lines of text on a low resolution screen like that.

I like the concept of the device, but I must not be the target audience at all. I can't imagine spending time writing on a low-resolution, tiny LCD display like that for any extended period of time.

Even the response time of the LCD looks painfully slow in the video. The letters slowly fade into view as they're being typed. They only show the typing for a couple seconds so if you blink you'll miss it in the demo video. This is in contrast to the campaign's claims of zero latency and high responsiveness

Apparently there's a market for it, though, because they have a lot of Kickstarter backers.

joeblubaugh

I was being generous by guessing based on the small font, and what I think would be the bare minimum for myself.

PStamatiou

Yea for me having lots of vertical real estate is important while writing. iPad Mini (or Daylight Computer if you care about working outdoors) in portrait orientation combined with any number of writing apps seems like a great solution.

rickcarlino

Cool idea, you should consider adding a photo of the device on the landing page. It did not make sense until I clicked into the device page (Firefox mobile iOS).

ranger_danger

Agreed... even as someone I consider much more curious than the average consumer, the fact that there were no pictures or easy description of what this is, made me close the tab right away.

dsr_

"Universal keyboard compatibility" -- bah!

I have working keyboards in my possession that this thing cannot connect to.

- No ADB port for a Mac keyboard

- No Sun Type 5 Mini-DIN

- No PS/2 port

- No PC keyboard port

- No Newton serial keyboard port

- No RJ11 for an LK-201

So much for universal.

TZubiri

I'd like to see that collection of keyboards

Do you have any interesting layout and language variations?

mavilia

If you wanna DIY then you could achieve something similar with the open source ZeroWriter

https://github.com/zerowriter/zerowriter1

KevinCarbonara

Wanting to DIY is one of the distractions BYOK is seeking to combat

schwartzworld

Or an Eink phone/tablet and a Bluetooth keyboard.

mwambua

Why do none of these have larger displays? I imagine it's annoying to type without the ability to at least skim over the last page of content? Are larger monochrome displays just harder to procure?

scripturial

This is already relatively large for this type of display. There is no market for these types of screens at a larger size. (They are mostly used in products that are not connected to a computer such as a controller panel for a factory, or mechanical device.)

SwiftyBug

I think they aimed for a very portable format. I think it's a bit took much especially considering that you will be already carrying a keyboard anyway.

mnky9800n

I don’t understand the point of a distraction free writing device. I am constantly flipping out of what I’m writing to go look at codes, chat with ai, read papers or tutorials, and then back to what I am writing. I realise I may not be the target audience. I guess if I was writing fiction then I wouldn’t want a distraction.

Xevion

Honestly, this just looks like someone made a really basic writing app as a demo project on an LCD, and then their friend said "You could totally sell this" and then they ran with that.

This is a "solution" looking for a problem.