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Google Shows Off Android XR Smart Glasses with In-Lens Display

Freak_NL

Smart Glasses 2: Revenge of the Glassholes

Will it take off as a general consumer product this time? Probably, for some (unfortunately).

It will create a whole new class of distracted people in traffic, that's for sure. Someone lost in a smartphone screen is at least visually recognisable (“Better look out for that smombie about to cross…”), but someone dutifully following Google Maps directions on one of these could actually look like they are aware of their surroundings, whilst their full attention is fixed on the little map widget.

dakiol

I think the problem here is traffic and cars. Seems crazy to think that it’s normalised to be in alert mode 100% of the time when out of your home because of cars. Every corner, every cross, I need to stop and double check for cars otherwise my life could end.

frankvdwaal

I am curious, do you have the same anxieties about car drivers using maps applications to navigate?

orbital-decay

I'm kind of anxious about checking the map when I'm riding a motorcycle in traffic. You can get away with much lower situational awareness in a car simply because you're far more predictable and not invisible.

Speaking of which... I'm still waiting for a bike helmet with a back-facing camera/HUD that is neither vaporware nor "smart" (read vendor-dependent and barely working), and doesn't suffer from basic usability mistakes. That would be infinitely more useful and probably easier to make than this.

Rebelgecko

Maps not so much, but the people actively watching TikTok or whatever while driving, yes

victorbjorklund

What about people actively listning to podcasts?

Freak_NL

If they're listening to the instructions, nope. If they are interacting with the display and focussing on the mini map, yes.

Not anxiety by the way, just a healthy amount of distrust.

makeitdouble

Is that much different from people lost in their thoughts or focusing on their podcast ?

As you point out, distracted people already exist, and new classes of them will appear every day. The problem exists and I don't want to minimize it, but from a driver's perspective the difference sounds minimal, and doesn't affect how you'll handle the situation (someone looking aware might not actually be)

imiric

You're right, it's not much different at all. People have been walking around with headphones for decades, and the same prejudice existed early on when Bluetooth headsets were all the rage. XR glasses simply expand this to another sense.

Can it arguably be more dangerous? Sure. But we'll come up with more technology and regulation to minimize the dangers. And the prejudice will eventually go away as well.

As much as I think that everyone walking around with these things is unsettling in a dystopian way, transhumanism is inevitable, and this is just another step in that direction.

metalman

This is not comparable to your two examples which are passive, the new device requires active partisipation will be additionaly distracting in that there will be all of the "gotchas" of modern UI design demanding "engagement". Face it, this is an attempt to have everything a person sees and hears projected by a corporate entity....."real time threat awareness" and instant sales opotunintues, just look at anything and find out "how much™", .....offer price determined by pulse, pupil dialation, previous comments,buying power and purchases. good times

makeitdouble

I'd somewhat love to hear your thoughts on this crossing at one of the most busy crossing of Tokyo

https://youtube.com/shorts/TvL2SR33XEA?si=F_fnbcvRGrizZ0rQ

The shibuya crossing also has at least 2 giant screens, with sound, and have been there for decades now. All of them have camera, and they probably have been checking the effect of each of the ads since the screens have been setup.

There's a lot to discuss I think.

AlecSchueler

> Revenge of the Glassholes

We need to continue to collectively make anyone wearing these things uncomfortable.

numpad0

Wearing HELSTARs is a political statement now?

tjpnz

Some are likely to react in ways where there'll be more than just some discomfort. I know I wouldn't be happy to discover someone beaming video of my kids back to the servers of an ad tech company.

muppet9066

Hasn't it already happened? There are doorbell cameras, CCTV, dash cams, drones, and everyone using a phone is pointing a camera. Cameras are everywhere in public already.

worthless-trash

I assume with this stance you don't backup to icloud or google drive.

TiredOfLife

Also everyone who dresses differently. Or has different hair color.

AlecSchueler

What? That's an absurd misrepresentation of what I said. Having a different colour of hair is in no way comparable to filming me and my family and sending the footage back to an ad tech company in the US.

I don't care about the appearance of the glasses--that's not what makes someone a "glasshole"--it's the behaviour.

worthless-trash

It took exactly one post for this term to come back. The word was invented by apple PR to ensure that this product didnt take off. Here it is again.

sdoering

And it will haunt the Apple efforts to get these worn advertising screens into the market as well.

Good.

Why would one pay for the privilege to have everything they see overlayed with advertisements and every micro-expression analyzed for even better ad targeting?

I wouldn’t use a smartphone (or a browser on my computer for that matter) if it weren’t routed through my private DNS blocking advertising and tracking.

Whenever I see how the internet looks like for normal people, I shudder in horror.

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TiredOfLife

> It will create a whole new class of distracted people in traffic, that's for sure.

Yes. Transparent glasses are much worse than looking down on your phone.

cladopa

I see that as a dystopian future. Google wants to model entire cities in real time, just like London with all the cameras everywhere, but for the profit of a private company and three letter agencies.

It used to be that in a small village everyone knew what everyone else was doing. Now with cloud connected cameras it will be impossible to have privacy on cities. A google camera will see and follow you anywhere you go. They will recognise you, they will track your movement when you go out of reach of one camera into another.

That is too much power and we should not give it to anyone, public or private.

makeitdouble

This sounds to me like the most straightforward trying to solve social problems with (blocking) technological solutions.

You'll only stop that future by securing a democratic government and have it protect citizens with solid privacy protection. Fighting technology is an already lost battle (we already have the means at scale)

pjmlp

It is not only London.

CCTV is everywhere in UK.

threeseed

There's a UK show called Hunted where contestants go on the run and are chased by law enforcement.

It is amazing to see just how quickly they are found because of the all the CCTV cameras.

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pjmlp

I can imagine.

Many years ago I use to regularly be in southern UK, between London and Cardiff, I think never saw a bad parked car at least in the city center, exactly because there are always a bunch of cameras around.

No way to try out one's luck regarding if a patrol will ever happen to cross that street.

defrost

Two decades past, here in Australia, I worked on a proposal for a another party to develop uniform ubiquitous CCTV software infrastructure for the UK as part of a tender process.

The people I worked for literally tagged it in house as Panopticon.

Big brother social objections aside the one feature I like was ironing out the wrinkles on buses exchanging their most recent footage whenever they parked up at a stop or at lights within wireless range.

The driving intent, at theat time. as I was told, was to be sure to have useful footage survive in the event of another wave of:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings

I parted ways not long after that initial period as I expected things to drift in the direction of "Well, now that we have this, how can we use it to increasingly track people other than actual terrorists?"

dyauspitr

Honestly we are already there with all the doorbell cameras people have.

dvh

1. Ok, the subtitles are in the lady's bust area, does that mean that glassholes 2.0 will look down there when they talk with someone?

2. The popup on the bottom right corner "Gemini start translate" is black on top of light background, does that mean that these new glasses can display dark on top of light background? I thought this was impossible with current technology. Or was it faked like magic leap faked the jumping whale demo?

dakiol

How they usually address the fact that 50% of their target market is already wearing glasses? Would they just ignore that 50% in their first iteration and then sell customised smart glasses ?

andybak

I always wonder this. I was in the target market for Magic Leap / Apple Vision Pro but I never considered buying either because of (among other reasons) the extra hassle of prescription inserts (both for me and for guests who would want to try them).

I presume someone has done the maths - but it's always killed my interest in these form factors.

muppet9066

At Google io, the presenter commented they have prescription lenses in the pair they were wearing

wongarsu

Sounds like the plan is an attempt to position Gemini as a more useful Siri-like assistant by giving it better input and output capabilities in the form of AR glasses

dvfjsdhgfv

I'm wondering what convinced the management to try this idea gain after Google Glass failed as a commercial product.

Disposal8433

Glass had a backlash when privacy still existed. Now we have the Rabbit or the AI Pin, and everyone tells their deepest secrets (even commercial ones like source code) to ChatGPT without thinking about what could go wrong.

Even on HN we can see users saying that AI is better than a psychiatrist.

If it is cheaper than a Meta VR thing, it could be as popular as the latest iPhone.

pzo

On top of that they got released more than 10 years ago. We have a new generation of users - I think (might be wrong thought) for gen Gen Z privacy is less of an issue and they are heavy users or tiktok and snapchat (comparing to millenials).

Original glasses looked also more futuristic - new one like raybans looks more like sunglasses so other people less aware about being recorded.

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dvfjsdhgfv

> even commercial ones like source code

I believe this is the most important argument in favor of local LLMs. There are industries where you can just send some info to OpenAI or Anthropic and just hope it will be safe there.

Disposal8433

That's why I'm not involved in the LLMs nowadays. I'm waiting for the whole thing to cool down, and when they have a real local and useful solution for sensitive or regulated industries, I may use it but I'm not in a hurry and I don't believe the FOMO around it.

Its like Google Search. They sold a lot of books for a technology that you could learn in 5 minutes.

The fact that I am not disgusted by those new glasses is worrying me more. Privacy is really dead outside my house and there is nothing I can do about it.

At least it replaced every Google and Apple devices I own with Linux and custom OSes that I fully control, it gives some peace of mind as long as you remember to spend a few minutes to backup your stuff every week.

numpad0

Meta Quest 3, Apple Vision Pro, Meta Ray-Ban camera glass, XREAL Air, Meta Orion. Google has to respond.

No one wants to talk about how those headsets are used or how are usage breakdowns by regions, though.

smegger001

because other companies have done it without it instantly triggering everyone that saw them. Snapchat has Spectacles and Facebook/RayBans have ReyBan-Meta and neither are having customers called glassholes and getting beaten for wearing head mounted cameras everywhere. honestly i think the reason is for whatever reason popular media demonized google glass as evil privacy invading spying device thus killing it in its infancy and ignored snapchat and facebook when they did the same thing.

worthless-trash

The public backlash was from apple fanboys and apple PR department. Some of internal apple data got leaked a while back and they talked about their PR plans which included seeding social media with "glasshole".

ncruces

Google Glass development never really stopped. The enterprise editions where on sale for years. They were shelved around the time work on these translation glasses was announced.

TiredOfLife

It will cost 10 times less.

zmmmmm

Seeing Meta sell millions of them?

kuylar

Putting Gemini in it.

oldpersonintx2

oh come on, Google Glass was so early, it could never be expected to be anything but a hint of a tech demo. no one believed it was a "product"