I Quit Google Search for AI–and I'm Not Going Back
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·March 26, 2025amelius
vincnetas
Google had "Froogle" specifically for shopping. Not sure what happened there, as it looks like they renamed it to "Google shopping" (https://www.google.com/shopping) but it just redirects to broken google search page.
sebstefan
I feel that
I was looking for braided BSP flexible stainless hoses in 3/8th of an inch with female to female ends that were longer than 1m
Boy I've had to scroll through pages of 1/2 inch hoses and female/male ends because fuzzy word search is completely unfit for that stuff
fluidcruft
You can't even get Amazon to give you the right results based on filtering items by title. I was searching the other day for lithium rechargable AAA batteries and it gives you a mess of mostly AA batteries. Including ni-cad.
relaxing
Interestingly eBay does a better job now of guiding sellers in filtering items into the proper categories, at least for the products I shop for.
Amazon is a dumpster fire.
OptionOfT
Because nobody benefits from providing that information. Having choice isn't good for sellers. They want to sell you their product, not allow you to check whether their product+shipping is the cheapest.
rchaud
1) AI isn't that smart and doesn't search the Internet in real time, nor can it distinguish between real and counterfeit products. There's a significant liability issue if BigCorp AI sends visitors to IP-infringing shop sites.
2) Search engines would rather show you irrelevant results than an empty page. This is true of Google, Amazon, Netflix, you name it.
3) The more custom a product is, the less likely it is to actually be in stock. I've seen plenty of cool products on Chinese electronics stores, many of which have quietly refunded my order after determining it wasn't in stock and wasn't coming back.
amelius
That's a pessimistic view. I think with even small effort a lot of improvement can be made here.
rchaud
There will no doubt be some techbro startup that promises to solve this: after all, who wouldn't want to build a platform that guides you to these products and take a cut of every sale?
Whether or not such a platform actually meets your desired specifications is another matter. The money in this industry is in affiliate marketing and ads, not in helping people find stuff.
econ
When I wrote my first webstore I thought the product data would be reasonably static but I've gradually learned it is more like a first person shooter.
AI could still gather it but one would have to accept that all parts of a product may change which may create an undesirable game.
addandsubtract
The most annoying thing, and reason why I don't "search" for clothes online, is that all the (web) store results are US based. What's the point of getting results in the US when I don't live there?
cess11
If you immediately find what you want you won't browse around and likely buy something with bigger profit margin or just more stuff.
It's not good for business to provide a good user experience, correct information and so on.
xnx
Google Shopping probably comes closest with its Vision Match feature: https://www.google.com/shopping/page/visionmatch
srameshc
I don't think I am there yet. I got too confident about AI and was lazy to do some search instead or think through the problem solution. I wasted my 3 hours by not doing so. LLMs are getting better but search and stackoverflow still helps.
cinbun8
Doesn't sound like the LLM was the problem here. By your own definition, you are lazy.
gwbas1c
Every time I try an AI search engine, I always end up going back to Google. Their AI summaries at the top of search results are, honestly, "good enough."
This is, in part, because most of my Google searches are 1-4 words; as opposed to the full prose that I need to type into an LLM.
What am I missing?
I find LLMs are useful if I don't know enough to know what to search for; if I need to craft a "long-form" search query; or otherwise need to learn something in a Q-and-A format.
Edit: One of the things that ChatGPT has replaced Google, for me, is when I need a quick joke image. Instead of searching through Google Images, I just think of a quick prompt of something silly. I'm using some silly ChatGPT images in some test scripts; and now that the US courts declared they aren't protected by copyright, I know there is 0% chance I will get in trouble for them.
breadwinner
> What am I missing?
You are missing the conversation. In ChatGPT, Perplexity or Claude you get to have a conversation on the topic, instead of a one-shot answer.
gwbas1c
But the conversation is time consuming.
IE, it's like having a meeting when a simple email or IM will suffice.
breadwinner
Google is deciding for the user that a IM will suffice. In reality a meeting is needed very often, and Google search doesn't have the option.
alexweberk
People quit Google Search to avoid "search-optimized junk" just to use AIs that answer using "Search" lol. Look closer at the sources your AI answers give you. They're not always pretty.
Fokamul
I think code monkeys or journalists etc. have GREAT experience with LLMs.
In case of niche and more technical knowledge demanding task, LLM just fails. Eg. in my case, reverse engineering. It just spits BS all day long.
do_not_redeem
Probably business types too. If you ask "what's the best email sending company" it will give you the most popular ones and all the right talking points to convince your underlings to switch. Now the salesfolk don't have to bother with golf games anymore.
n4r9
A few months ago our product manager copypasted into a feature squad chat the results of asking an LLM to give some options for encoding route-navigation data for transmission from a server to a client device (both running our software). It gave about ten options ranging from half-decent but over-engineered (e.g. geoJSON) to bizarre (e.g. OSM, rinex, nmea). He didn't let on that it was an LLM response - the implication was that we should work through the list and anlayse the best one. But as both sides were using our own software so we could just use our own JSON encoding. Fortunately the head of engineering was also in the chat, immediately realised what was going on and dismissed the demand. Of course the real issue is that the PM is overreaching, but such behaviour is enabled and/or catalysed by LLMs. I don't doubt that similar things are happening in other companies that don't have the privilege of assertive leaders pushing back. The wasted effort could be significant.
skinner927
Honestly if it’s not web (front and backend), it can’t figure it out. It makes sense though. Web has millions of examples. RE and other niche fields have far fewer examples, and the examples that do exist are extremely specific. How to pop a shell on device X: one example, extremely specific. How to write user auth for a web app: thousands of examples and generic enough it’ll work anywhere.
n4r9
I find this a little worrying from an ethical point of view. The suggestive power of web-based LLMs could be far greater than that of traditional search, and this could well be commercially exploited if we're not careful. With traditional search, providers like Google throw in ads that look like results and bias the genuine results based on funding. This is dark, but can be circumvented with some basic guidance on how to interpret the UI, and the web pages themselves are not affected. LLMs provide a wall of text which all appears reasonable, but could very well be biased or manipulative in highly subtle ways based on whichever political parties or corporations have paid the most for influence. Whilst in principle you can tell users to externally verify the claims, people will bother less and those external sources will become less accessible/useable as LLMs become more widely used. I hold out hope that they can be mitigated, but I don't yet see how.
codegeek
Its early days but for our B2B SAAS, we are seeing an uptick in traffic from Chatgpt and other similar AI tools. I even have prospects sharimg their prompts as i always ask them. Google search is going to have serious issues in next few years if they continue on their current path of literring page 1 with garbage "sponsored posts".
thundergolfer
This article uses an LLM to summarize itself into three key points. Those three points are milquetoast, making me much less interested in getting behind the paywall and reading the actual article.
Maybe this is a value add. Maybe the article is milquetoast and should be skipped. But either way it’s an example of how LLMs are not just competing with search they’re degrading the reading behaviors which make search more valuable (details, specifics, exact match).
It is an underrated point though that LLMs are competitive with Google search because they remove anti-user ads and SEO spam. In the long run LLMs will have that same problem though, because it’s a business dynamic not a technological dynamic.
vslira
I've been kind of expecting to see the LLM impact on Google's 10-Q for a while now.
Even if LLM queries are just a small fraction of overall internet queries, I suppose they're stealing eyeballs from higher-value searchers.
Eridrus
High value searchers for Google are people looking for car insurance, which is not something anyone is doing with LLMs.
skmurphy
For "search engine" tasks I have switched to Kagi.com and find it more useful than Google's results. I am not using it for shopping but to find original content that offers multiple perspectives on topics I am researching. I find Perplexity helpful when I am trying to get a basic overview because it provides links to substantiate the content. Your mileage may vary.
breadwinner
Microsoft is barely even mentioned - a major defeat for Satya. During its entire existence Bing has been waiting for an inflection point. The inflection point came and Bing failed to take advantage of it. Perplexity is what the new Bing should have been. At this point it is fair to say Microsoft has squandered their AI advantage they got through early investment in OpenAI.
I'm wondering why, in this day and age, it is still difficult to search for a specific type of jeans, with a specific size, style and color, and availability. And filter it by shipping method/cost.
Same for other products. E.g. resistor 0805, 1/8W or better, etc. etc.
Why does every online shop have their own (often broken) filtering system? Why can't the information be gathered by an AI, and turned into a super filter?