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A Facebook Insider's Exposé Alleges Bad Behavior at the Top

BLKNSLVR

Two comments downplaying the grossness of the conduct of executives and one reply trying to discredit another whistleblower saying similar things.

For me, that's a worrying level of apathy towards and / or normalisation of what should be totally unacceptable behaviour.

This is the kind of attitude that gets Trump a second term even after his first.

contrarian1234

I'm more shocked there really weren't any shocking revelation. It's pretty much what everyone expected.

- Zuckerberg wants people to like him.. okay..

- Weird personal details about lingerie budgets.. an insinuation about Sandberg having some homosexual relationship.. eye roll

- The Myanmar stuff we already knew about. It's bad. It seems negligent, but not like Zuckerburg wants to drown babies (all the FANG don't want to hire moderators and want to solve everything with machines)

- They tried to work with the chinese government to get in to China. okay

I was expecting stuff like top VPs look at people's private messages willy nilly, or Zuckerberg makes sure supportive political condidates win in third world countries. Things that actually matter.

How boring.

thomassmith65

  The Myanmar stuff we already knew about. It's bad. It seems negligent, but not like Zuckerburg wants to drown babies
Most people set the bar higher than 'does he want to drown babies'.

ruszki

I had an opportunity to talk about racism with a racist. He said that he was not racist because he didn’t want to kill people of color. He is the kind of person, who doesn’t go into a restaurant if there are non whites in it, even in the safest neighbourhood.

Since then, I’m not sure at all about that. There are definitely a lot of racists, who don’t consider themselves as such. I’m not sure that they are not the majority.

It’s quite possible that this can be generalised, and applied to this too.

the-chitmonger

It may be boring but we should continue to hold companies to a higher standard than excusing sexual harassment and social irresponsibility at global scale

s_dev

What about the allegations that Facebook is suppressing informating regarding the ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestine?

Is that an eye roll as well in your book or is it newsworthy?

Traubenfuchs

It‘s good that they are preventing the spread of fake news and anti-Israel hate content.

Pro Palestine propaganda is already incredibly pervasive and annoying anywhere you look online.

There can be a news article about Dubai chocolate and Palestine brainwashed bots will comment „…ok but what about PALESTINE?“

Urahandystar

How would Palestine be able to afford bots?

pbiggar

Another source of allegations about the behaviour at Meta comes from 7amleh's report on how they systematically suppressed what Americans and others were allowed see about Israel's invasion of Palestine.

https://7amleh.org/storage/Advocacy%20Reports/Delete%20the%2...

gryzzly

Hamas invasion of Israel you mean?

petesergeant

This paper seems to mainly suggest that the suppression is happening on the internal platforms that Meta's employees and content-moderators use, for discussions, rather than that they're censoring what I would see an an end user?

pbiggar

Yes, that is the mechanism of how the suppression is pushed internally. For details of the actual suppression, see these reports / documentaries:

- https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/20/meta-systemic-censorship...

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmnQhEQIjKc

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12btf2Oq820

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeaJJU2zHh8 (haven't read this one, but it's from the BBC. For more details on how the BBC restricts Palestine content, see this piece: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/bbc-civil-war-gaza-israel-bia...)

ToucanLoucan

Americans are one of the most, if not the most, propagandized populations on the planet, and the worst part is a large cohort of them fully believe they aren’t.

thomassmith65

Social media has democratized propaganda.

Political messages often come from ostensibly small, independent outlets now. Their incentives are no better than those of governments.

A show might be hosted by a couple teenagers in hoodies, but if they're audience-captured, or supported by powerful interests, or just hold strong, irrational views, it's still propaganda.

fellow_eng_25

Don't forget the Germans.

liorsbg

Some more information about 7amleh: https://ngo-monitor.org/reports/7amlehs-gaslighting/

specproc

Some more information about ngo-monitor:

> NGO Monitor is a right-wing organization based in Jerusalem that reports on international NGO (non-governmental organisation) activity from a pro-Israel perspective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGO_Monitor

sherdil2022

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thomassmith65

The actual article title is:

"A Facebook Insider's Exposé Alleges Bad Behavior at the Top"

This comment would make more sense if the title were:

"A Facebook Insider's Shocking Exposé Alleges Surprisingly Bad Behavior at the Top"

mrweasel

Well, it's not really that surprising is it? It's mostly a clarification of what types of bad behaviour.

I haven't read the book, but from the article it seems like it's mostly inappropriate sexual behaviour and some stuff we already know, but apparent collectively decided that we don't care enough about to attempt to change how Meta operate.

enraged_camel

Do you only read things that have shock value?

MrMcCall

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n4r9

Why do you mention Gates in particular?

MrMcCall

If there's a person who used ALL his power to win every skirmish, no matter how unscrupulously, it was BG.

A guy that powerful and unscrupulous and also unattractive with that horrible voice only gets women because of money and power. And the only woman who could stand him enough to marry him (and have his kids) was no looker, yet divorced him with no press whatsoever.

That's the power of money. I suspect a lot of us nerds wouldn't've been nerds if we could get girls. Some of us grow up to be kind, grateful partners, but we likely didn't trample everyone underfoot to become a mega billionaire.

The silence that surrounds him smells like money, to me.

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selimthegrim

I read plenty of press about her giving him a hall pass and the boot over Epstein eventually.