US Green-Card Holder and Columbia Student Arrested by ICE for Protest
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·March 10, 2025theahura
ilrwbwrkhv
But the fallacy here is to think that we still have laws and a legal system. The real question being asked here is: what are you gonna do?
aaomidi
Israel turns off people’s brains, so, for now? Nothing.
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gnabgib
Discussion (86 points, 1 day ago, 117 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43314700
kennysoona
He has a green card, he is protected by the First Amendment.
It's not more complicated than that.
yusaythat
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monideas
It's a bit pointless to repeatedly have this story on HN given that most of the heterodox comments just get flagged.
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mindslight
The point isn't to debate whether fascism might be a good thing in some abstract indulgence of moral relativism. Rather the point is for us Americans who have woken up to how our country is being full on attacked to discuss ways we might resist.
IncreasePosts
I guess the important question is what activities aligned with Hamas did this fellow engage in? Until that is known it's impossible to say if this is an overreach by Trump and rubio, or if he's a person who should be deported for the supporting terrorist activities.
theahura
We have a judicial system that exists precisely to answer these questions. However, despite repeated attempts to utilize that judicial system, Khalil's lawyers have been stonewalled from their charge by the government.
THAT is the most important thing. Everything else is downstream of that -- you cannot have a fair evaluation of any of the things you are talking about without a fair trial, and that's not happening.
Aeolun
Given the deafening lack of any reasons presented, I have to assume there is none.
danpalmer
No, the important question is "what activities did this fellow engage in". The "aligned with Hamas" is a red-herring, and one that the Trump regime is relying on to do all the heavy lifting here.
If this guy supported terrorists, it doesn't matter who they were, and if he didn't (and, perhaps, was just exercising his right to free speech in protesting, as it seems he was), then it doesn't matter what speech he was exercising. Either way, introducing Hamas into the mix is entirely about turning people against him, and not actually about the facts that matter or the law.
aaomidi
This is very succinctly put and absolutely correct.
aaomidi
You have a right to know what you’re accused of. This person doesn’t even have charges filed against them.
guelo
Trump's doesn't want the burden of due process to discover the facts impartially because that would ruin the propaganda, he just wants to deport people based on hearsay.
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Supposedly they moved him to Louisiana after and in response to habeaus corpus being filed by his lawyers (https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3lk2k...) which is, of course, incredibly alarming.
For those who aren't familiar, habeas corpus is an incredibly important civil right that effectively allows anyone who is detained to go to court to challenge the detention. Khalil's lawyers state that after they filed for habeas corpus, ICE moved Khalil to Lousiana without telling anyone. Extremely concerning.