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How to professionally say (2022)

How to professionally say (2022)

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·February 13, 2025

ipnon

The maxim of office happiness is "strong relationship > any problem." If you find yourself constantly couching your language like this with someone, it is an "organization smell" that you need to gain more familiarity with that person! Once you have established rapport, and you both feel free to express yourself a little roughly at times, you spend less time reflecting on your communication and more time exchanging the information needed to build.

If you find yourself having to talk like this all the time at work I recommend reading "An Elegant Puzzle" by Will Larson.

jimbob45

That’s nice to say but there’s a dark underbelly of quietly firing people who don’t quite fit the team culture to achieve such strong relationships. Not always and not immediately, but eventually you either have a black sheep slowly bring your team down or you fire them.

Basically the office equivalent of the plot to Hot Fuzz.

repiret

If you’re working with me, please don’t follow this article’s advice. Please communicate with me with direct language and with a goal to advance our project.

If I have a terrible idea, or am over complicating things, just tell me. And tell me why, and maybe I’ll see it your way, or maybe I’ll convince you the complexity is essential, but we’ll be better for it either way.

andrei_says_

The possibility for healthy candor is the result of a trusting relationship.

In the absence of trust, one often needs to resort to passive, blameless, less direct language.

So I work on creating the trust and noting where it is impossible so I can adjust.

Who defaults to corporate speak is often an indication to how much they can be trusted.

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squeaky-clean

I'm like this too, and was on a team with another fella like this for a few years. It was great, our other team members thought we absolutely hated each other and didn't understand why we hung out every Friday after work to play board games. It's certainly not a common attitude in the workplace though.

throw27273

I guess I'm the opposite. If you're working with me, please use nicer and kinder language when talking to me.

ghostfoxgod

Totally agree with you on this, it was meant to be satirical but I started to realize that there are many places and people to which these type of conversation is really the only medium to communicate, its sad and in an ideal world I would want that people communicate directly without the need of twisting the words, but I am happy that you advocate and appreciate direction communication over something like this.

ghostfoxgod

Thanks for resharing about this again, if anyone has any feedback then please feel free to share about it.

PS: here's the direct link to the website: https://howtoprofessionallysay.akashrajpurohit.com/

mbrezu

This is such a nice example of high power distance "speak". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_distance

greyface-

As discussed prior (2022, 396 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31224996

asukachikaru

Thanks, very interesting read about PDI and the cultural differences.

Speaking for myself, I have great interest in living / working in western Europe, namely Netherlands or Denmark, but as someone living in Japan for a decade and appreciating their polite communication and respect for personal boundary, I'm concerned if I would enjoy life in an environment with more straightforward communication.

zippyman55

I’ve seen new people come in to my organization and speak this way. It was amazing how they could so easily lose all credibility within four hours and they were toast at that point.

ipsum2

Based on the ambiguity of your comment, it amusingly could mean either the "unprofessional" or the professional version.

manmal

Why would someone be judged on their first day on the job? Many people are very nervous and not their best version.

jofzar

God these are so americanized, I can't imagine saying these things in Australian workplace, they are so de-humanizing corporate bullshit.

"As per my prediction, this outcome does not come as a surprise."

Might as well say "go fuck yourself, eat shit, I was right"

userbinator

American white-collar workers, to be specific; communications among blue-collar workers is usually far more direct.

mrkpdl

This is a pet peeve of mine: the whole first half of the sentence is unnecessary. If something doesn’t come as a surprise then it was predicted.

That said this is satire, and saying it twice does make the joke better.

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sneak

As means per. Anyone saying “as per” is deliberately trying to sound pompous.

Springtime

> "You are overcomplicating this"

Tbh I don't think the worst problem here is with stating something is overcomplicated but the directness and variously pointed use of 'you'. People will naturally be more defensive.

Many of the example statements involve this use of 'you' in the same fashion. 'Did you even read my email?', 'If you would have read the whole email you’d know the answer to this'. It's a deliberate use of 'you' like an intensifier.

With minor rephrasing these could just be expressed more passively, for scenarios where one doesn't want an almost completely euphemistic tone.

ChrisArchitect

As noted prior, the source for these (@loewhaley) leans more to a satire, so this isn't completely serious advice I don't think.

userbinator

Definitely not serious --- unless you actually want to sound like a stereotypical bureaucratic corporate drone.

tayo42

I wish we could just talk directly at work

I really don't understand why people can't be spoken to directly, only in the workplace.

Trying to dance around people's egos is so childish.

shegerking2020

Would be cool to have the reverse as well that I can integrate with slack

ghostfoxgod

There is a reverse toggle as well :)

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