Don't push AI down our throats
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·November 30, 2025wasmainiac
> I will not allow AI to be pushed down my throat just to justify your bad investment.
Pretty much my sentiment too.
nacozarina
assume it is being ‘done wrong’, not due to the usual trifecta of greed/evil/stupidity, but due to socio-economic pressure that demands this approach.
AI really needs R&D time, where we first figure out what it’s good for and how best to exploit it.
But R&D for SW is dead. Users proved to be super-resilient to buggy or mis-matched sw. They adapt. ‘Good-enough’ often doesn’t look it. Private equity sez throw EVERYTHING at the wall and chase what sticks…
andy99
> We will work with the creators, writers, and artists, instead of ripping off their life's work to feed the model.
This is counterproductive. Believing as this person appears to that AI is “ripping off” “creators” is completely orthogonal to sparkling “use AI” buttons in apps being really annoying. Almost everyone agrees with the latter, the former is a niche position that makes the overall essay completely unpalatable to many.
Pick you battles, if you care about software being less annoying, focus on that without tacking on riders about other political causes.
1shooner
On the contrary, cannibalizing the commercial viability of original content creation is possibly the most short-sighted aspect of the current AI push. That isn't 'political', it's just a relatively conservative assessment of the content market.
dbalatero
I think the author cares about both.
Did that single sentence in this relatively short, 36 sentence post really make you flip the table as hard as you imply? That's surprising if so.
shmerl
As usual, those who spent too much money on it use it as a way to show their investors they didn't waste all that money and to get them to spend even more. That's why it's so messed up.
Isamu
The AI push is not just hype, it’s a scramble for cash. For now the only game plan is to scale up massively with a giant investment gamble, to try to get beyond the obvious limitations that threaten to burst the bubble.
Plus the general economy outlook is negative, AI is the bright spot. They are striving to keep growth up amid downward pressure.
DaveZale
try watching a televised American football game. So many ads for AI. Of course ads appeal most to the gullible.
zzzeek
> We will work with the creators, writers, and artists, instead of ripping off their life's work to feed the model.
i support this but the Smarter Than Me types say it's impossible. It's not possible to track down an adequate number of copyright holders, much less get their permission, much less afford to pay them, for the number of works required in order to get the LLM to achieve "liftoff".
I would think that as I use Claude for coding, it would work just as well if it didnt suck down the last three years of NYT articles as if it did. There's a vast amount of content that is in the public domain, and if you're ChatGPT you can make deals with a bunch of big publishers to get more modern content too. But that's my know-nothing take.
maybe the issue is more about the image content. Screw the image content (and definitely the music content, spotify pushing this slop is immensely offensive), pay the artists. My code OTOH is open source, MIT licensed. It's not art at all. Go get it (though throw me a few thousand bucks every year because you want to do the right thing).
newsclues
If AI was amazing you wouldn’t need to push it, people would demand it!
You need to push slop, because people don’t really want it.
eur0pa
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stack_framer
And this is the new, fashionable, easy way to insult someone. Just say their work sounds like AI, and job done.
jsheard
They're not doing themselves any favours by including obviously AI generated images in their posts. That just primes the reader to assume the author is slopping it up before they even start reading.
nutanc
You are right. And "work sounds like AI" is an insult says everything you need to know about the generations by AI :)
poly2it
Do you want AI pushed down your throat?
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chasing0entropy
If you truly believe what you've written, you wouldn't use a web host attempting to shove JavaScript and cookies down my throat.
If your blog/host/post delivery site attempts to force me to be tracked and execute code against my will you are no better than the AI pushers.
dbalatero
Hyperbole much? These are two different issues, you can of course write your own blog post about that.
Benefit of the doubt: this person wants to get their word out and it's more energy than they had to track down a pristine, pure, sparkling blogging engine.
happytoexplain
You're implying they're the same in some way, but you haven't explained why.
chasing0entropy
Disable your script execution and cookie storage for the OP site and then attempt to view it. The page and content load fine; the host injecting coercing messages for enabling tracking cookies and scripts are the reason AI has been integrated into everything.
You either comply of face unnecessary roadblocks. OP has complied by sharing the link. My right to choose tracking cookies and script execution is parallel to my right to not utilize or be forced to utilize AI. This issue has to be addressed universally as is not simple "no ai" on the web; it's freedom to use the web or compliance with violation of that freedom
acedTrex
Can you explain javascript and cookies similarity to LLMs?
procaryote
The article renders well even if you block javascript though
dawnerd
You have the ability to turn that off…
The real creepy thing is the way they force you to give up your data with these products. If it were just useful add ons, it wouldn’t bother me, but the fact that Gemini requires you to turn activity history off for paid plans for the promise they won’t train on your data or allow a person to view your prompts is insanity. If you’re paying $20 for Pro or 249.99 for Ultra, you should be able to get activity history without training or review or storing your data for several years.