'A mass casualty event that could exceed Hiroshima': Yale researcher on Sudan
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·November 5, 2025SilverElfin
Weird how this has received no attention even though it is far worse than anything alleged in the Israel-Gaza conflict. People really are just easily influenced by whatever frequently hits their ears.
noir_lord
It has received attention - the ongoing conflict in Sudan has been covered by Reuters and the BBC it hasn't received as much attention as Isreal/Gaza or the Russian Invasion of Ukraine but that's true of any two conflicts one is always going to be "bigger news" than another.
moosedman
Yeah, but the massacre in el-Fasher killed more people in 7 days than 2 years in Gaza.
noir_lord
But that wasn't the point I was replying to, he said it's received no attention yet if you go to BBC news, Sudan Civil War is its own category on the Africa page.
Now if he'd stated "western media covers broadly equivalent events with similar levels of casualties with a bias towards Europe/Western Countries/Western Allies" then broadly I would agree - African news does tend to take a backseat to events in those regions for likely a whole host of reasons.
They covered El-Fasher as well - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgr4qqgdlkjo
rich_sasha
As opposed to Sudan, Israel proper is leading the world in HDI, GDP per capita, innovative economy, basically any statistic of progress you want. Sudan is at the bottom of these lists.
It is one thing to read of atrocities commited in an extremely underdeveloped country and another to hear of even notionally smaller ones in an extremely developed one.
moosedman
Lots of people including lots of Americans are making a lot of money off of it. https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/gold-gulf-and-the-fall-o...
mapt
Maybe one side of the Sudan conflict needs to buy off all our politicians, so that I can pay my taxes and know what fraction of a Sudanese life I just ended.
moosedman
Maybe they already did...
whatever1
There are almost half a million Americans living in Israel. In Sudan almost none.
So yes, news about Israel are more engaging in the US.
Symmetry
That's a good reason to have a subscription to some news organization that covers the world in general, not just to read whatever you see on social media. Certainly The Economist has had a lot of coverage on the situation in Sudan over the last year.
phpnode
This conflict didn’t have such a sudden start as the Ukraine or Gaza wars, it has gradually risen in intensity, becoming more newsworthy along the way
fractallyte
Why the hell is this flagged?
It's the 21st century. Schools, media, politicians, commentators remind us about multiple world wars, millions of "sacrifices" for "freedom". We have technology that was unimaginable to our parents and grandparents.
So what is going on in the world? Who is putting the brakes on human progress?
The UN is an empty shell. Prominent countries which historically created the conditions for endless conflict - let's call them out: the US, Russia, UK, France, China (coincidentally, the five permanent members of the UN Security Council) - are sitting back, diplomatically allowing atrocities and injustices to unfold.
Why is this being allowed to happen?
This isn't even a time to point fingers, assign blame. We need to hold ourselves to the highest ideals.
We already have tens, hundreds, thousands, of talented individuals - graduates from the top universities of the world, who know how to make the world a better place. They understand history, morality, and ethics to an excruciating degree. Where are they? Why are they not in top decision-making positions in governments?
Why are our political structures still struggling with basic competencies? A House of Dynamite was a perfect movie to follow on from Oppenheimer. Scientists created a superweapon; politicians ran with it, and blackmailed the world. It's pathetic and deplorable.
WE NEED TO DO BETTER.
spwa4
> The UN is an empty shell
Because sovereign states demanded that it would be an empty shell, and this was accepted because otherwise there would be nothing.
For example, the ICC. Nobody can be convicted by the ICC unless their country allows it. And even that is going too far for essentially all countries, even founding member states like South Africa (who explicitly went against UN treaties they signed to protect Al-Bashir and Putin)
Rakshith
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All eyes on Sudan! Where are the protests in front of the mosques and in universities? Those are US weapons that are used to kill!