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Washington Post editorials omit a key disclosure: Bezos' financial ties

IIAOPSW

Its impressive how well Bezos has convinced everyone to stop trusting WaPo rather than WaPo convincing everyone to trust Bezos. A paper owned by a wealthy financial interest was hardly unique or novel at the time he took them over, and no one would have been more concerned about it than they already were, and all he had to do was not be overt in his influence and bias of it, but he couldn't refrain.

softwaredoug

These billionaires don't have a solid feedback loop back to reality

davisr

If you think this kind of reporting is cool, you should donate to https://fair.org.

Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) has been exposing two-faced news for decades. They are worthy of your attention.

jonas21

FAIR has its own biases, and these can be quite strong (have a glance at the studies on their website and judge for yourself).

IMO, the Columbia Journalism Review (https://www.cjr.org) is a better source for media criticism.

senderista

FAIR has always been like this since the 80s. I don't really expect these media watchdogs to be "neutral" though; it's enough that they only call out bias against their favored positions. If there are enough such orgs across the spectrum then they serve their purpose.

metabagel

pestat0m

"Your browser is out of date. Update your browser to view this site properly."

it always makes me sad when i see this. you are not reaching your target audience. fyi this seems to be a cloudflare thing. i see it everywhere. The World Wide Web seems to be going down a dark path. perhaps i do need to update my browser, but why should that matter for just reading a news site. it's like someone wants you to not have access unless you buy a new macbook(or maybe a chromebook). maybe i should just install Chrome already? i just feel like this Big Tech has crossed the line with their customers a long time ago at this point.

btw, fair.org looks interesting. i never heard of them before. Thanks!

next_xibalba

Oof, took a glance. Pretty bad. Many of their study headlines scream bias and spin. Pretty wild given their name and declared mission.

davisr

Please, do explain to everyone what you think is biased about it, and why.

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kridsdale3

And now that Zuck has nuked Facebook AI Research org, they get their acronymic exclusivity back.

BeetleB

I second that. When I was a news junkie, I would love reading their (occasional) posts.

Glad they're still around.

coliveira

The ideal solution is to stop reading newspapers/sites owned by Bezos. I give the WSJ zero credibility for anything that is not factual. Even then they will distort the facts with opinions that are aligned to Bezos.

throwworhtthrow

The same week that WaPo announced their new editorial policy, I added a uBlock Origin rule to delete the opinion sidebar. It's basically ads run by Jeff Bezos now. There's no reason to expose oneself to it.

Their news reporting is, for now, still decent (and retains its familiar slant).

whimsicalism

wsj newsroom is probably the best national reporting entity, but sure

ilamont

WSJ is not owned by Jeff Bezos, but by another billionaire Rupert Murdoch.

By all means skip the Wall Street Journal's braying editorials, but don't ignore the reporting. For example, the Theranos scandal was blown open by the WSJ's John Carreyrou. They've done good reporting on Tesla, Epstein, Amazon, and others.

clircle

Do we really hold editorials to the same standard as the rest of the news? These are opinion pieces, you should expect bias, no?

tclancy

An individual editorial? No. At the meta level when an outlet only allows a specific direction of bias, that doesn't feel like a good idea to accept.

embedding-shape

Regardless if it's in the opinions sections, if the author/publisher has clear biases, especially financial ones, they're disclosed somewhere in/next to the piece.

balozi

There is a reason they publish opeds right next to hard news. Its not by accident.

insane_dreamer

Because the editorial authors are employees of the news organization, they must disclose the conflict of interest between their employer and its owner or parent organization and the matter they are reporting on.

Let's say an editorial piece says "AWS is the best cloud service" but fails to disclose that its owner also owns AWS, that would be a breach of journalistic ethics. Similar case here.

next_xibalba

I just can’t believe people even read editorials. I’m the news outlets I read, they are clearly marked and it makes an easy and instant “skip”.

delfinom

People are upset over the wrong bias lol

embedding-shape

> When it comes to the appearance of conflict, I am not an ideal owner of The Post. Every day, somewhere, some Amazon executive or Blue Origin executive or someone from the other philanthropies and companies I own or invest in is meeting with government officials. I once wrote that The Post is a “complexifier” for me. It is, but it turns out I’m also a complexifier for The Post. - https://archive.is/flIDl

It kind of shocks me how someone seemingly can understand those things, but then continue to try to helm the ship. You know you're having a negative impact, why stay at that point, unless you have some ulterior motive?

I don't feel like Washington Post becoming a shadow of itself is any surprise, when even the owner is aware of the effect they have on the publication, yet do absolutely nothing to try to change it.

Disclaimer: former subscriber, part of the exodus that left when the publication became explicitly "pro-capitalism" under the guise of "personal liberties" or something like that.

afavour

Yeah, this was always the tell. If he truly cared about journalism and wanted to use his money to support it he could very easily place WaPo in some sort of trust he has no power over. And yet, despite publicly admitting the conflict of interest, he hasn’t. Only one reason why you do that and it's because you intend to make the most of your control.

GCA10

It's worth reading former WashPost editor Marty Baron's memoirs for a little more insight about Bezos's priorities. Back when Bezos was married to MacKenzie Scott, she was a surprisingly strong voice about how to do things. (The slogan "Democracy Dies in Darkness" got approved after her blessing.) Lately, my sense is that his new wife, Lauren Sanchez, has more of an interest in the Post than Bezos does.

So he's basically the absentee owner of a property that's more interesting to the women in his life than to him. Current management at the paper is probably eager to make sure that the paper doesn't embarrass (or "complexify") his bigger business priorities. Their desire to mollify may be excessive. I've seen such things happen inside large organizations.

terminalshort

That doesn't solve the problem (because it can't be solved). Someone is in control, and the paper will be biased in their interest.

nickff

It seems like the problem with WaPo is that it’s constantly losing money, and has been since well before Bezos bought it. This makes it difficult to be hands-off for (at least) two reasons: he can’t just put it in a conventional trust, because he has to constantly give the organization money (which is abnormal for such a trust), and (secondly) in order to be sustainable, WaPo needs to be significantly changed so that it stops hemorrhaging money.

afavour

I’d say the UK’s Guardian newspaper is a useful example here. It’s been owned by the Scott Trust since the 1930s:

https://www.theguardian.com/about/history

And it has survived without continual extra investment. Possible that WaPo is just managed badly.

clort

Bezos has so much money that he could simply drop a billion or five into the trust and never need to see any return from it.

embedding-shape

It's almost like trying to run a newspaper the same way you run a for-profit online marketplace isn't the greatest of ideas. Who could've known...

uvaursi

What’s the relation between Journalism, Facts and Truth? I’d like a three-way Venn diagram to understand if there are any overlaps.

jacquesm

That's because even if he realizes the conflict of interest having a massive media outlet at your disposal is just too powerful a temptation to ignore for these fat cats.

morkalork

I think they took the wrong lesson from that Mark Twain quote

>Never pick a fight with people who buy ink by the barrel

heroprotagonist

There was an ulterior motive and the impact was deliberate.

Further down the article:

> O'Neal was brought in by Bezos this summer after the corporate titan tore up his paper's opinion section.

> Bezos said he wanted a tight focus on two priorities: personal liberties and free markets. The top opinion page editor resigned. A raft of prominent columnists and contributors resigned or departed as well. Some were let go.

terminalshort

It's not ulterior if he said it

flatline

The Post is a plaything to him that has a disproportionate impact on the rest of the world. We’ve created systems that allow a few individuals to control resources beyond the wildest dreams of the monarchs of days past. Whether it is about power, control, self-aggrandizement, or simply a special interest to him, there is no accountability at the end of the day, and we are all excellent at justifying and rationalizing our decisions to ourselves. I don’t think there has to be an ulterior motive per se, it’s simply human nature.

bigbadfeline

> We’ve created systems that allow a few individuals to control resources beyond the wildest dreams of the monarchs of days past.

That didn't happen without vigorous help from the "servants of the people".

> I don’t think there has to be an ulterior motive per se, it’s simply human nature.

It's both, of course. Ulterior motives and human nature aren't mutually exclusive, in fact they overlap quite a lot given the chance.

HPsquared

Don't ask what you can do for your property; ask what your property can do for you.

JohnMakin

It’s part of the centi billionaire class power grab playbook. each one of them for the most part has some major media interests. if you can control and dictate the narrative, for a while no one can protest you, and maybe they won’t notice for a while that their futures are being robbed to enrich a handful of extremely vain white men. by the time they do, it’s likely too late.

makr17

I feel like Bezos has well more than $10M, $1B/100 (centi). Perhaps you were looking for "hecto" (SI prefix for 100)?

ratelimitsteve

the temptation is to take him at his word for what he wants and then ask why he doesn't do the obvious thing to get it. try something different: assume he wants what he gets and then ask yourself why he might want that. it's shocking how often that tends to make things very clear.

AndrewKemendo

This is called “managing the narrative”

It’s a classic hallmark technique of advanced psychopaths wherein you agree with reality but don’t change it because as long as you acknowledge it, most people assume you’ll “do your best.”

So all you have to do is acknowledge it, and as long as there’s nobody who can force you to do anything then there’s no obvious way to address it without escalation - that escalation being the reason then for claiming you’re attacked and then you have carte blanche to “simply defend yourself”

Do that long enough and people get tired and move on and you just cemented your place further

ideonexus

The Saturday editorial "Trump's undertaking is a shot across the bow at NIMBYs everywhere," was the final straw for me. I can forgive an editorial defending Trump's actions--no matter how misguided, but the fact that the WaPo did not disclose Bezos' personal interests in the matter infuriated me bitterly. According to NPR, they corrected the omission on Sunday, but I'm done.

That subscription money now goes to my local NPR station. Anytime NPR covers anything related to Microsoft, they always provide the disclosure of receiving funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. That is what legitimate news sources are supposed to do.

mhb

I’ve Been at NPR for 25 Years. Here’s How We Lost America’s Trust.

https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-tru...

neaden

What does this have to do with the article?

drak0n1c

The hollowing out of the readership by ideologically partisan staff is what led to publications becoming overly dependent on the subsidy of wealthy owners, rather than a wider pool of paid subscribers.

coliveira

I 100% agree, but need to add that npr also has financial ties to very powerful oligarchs that need to be disclosed. For example, here is what I get when researching the largest donors to npr: "NPR's largest single donor was the estate of Joan B. Kroc, who left a bequest of over $200 million in 2003. Other major donors include foundations like the Rockefeller Foundation, the MacArthur Foundation, and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, which have contributed millions to specific projects, as well as the Gates Foundation and the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation"

istjohn

Donations from multiple foundations, most of which were created by people long dead, are hardly comparable to ownership by a wealthy, living business magnate.

coliveira

While the original owners are dead, this doesn't mean the foundation can do whatever "good" you imagine. These foundations are vehicles to keep doing the political bidding of these families and they still operate according to the wishes of the original donors, which are all oriented towards major industries. Or do you really believe people give millions of dollars to whatever cause with zero strings attached?

donohoe

Yes, they do. Billions per year across a wide variety of organizations.

insane_dreamer

The issue is that donors don't have a _controlling interest_ in the organization.

Having said that, I would expect NPR to disclose, if editorializing a piece on Ms Kroc, the donation that Ms Kroc made to NPR (and they likely do that already).

coliveira

They don't have control, but these foundations certainly have influence. Similarly for major advertisers, which also have influence in what is aired since editors don't want to anything that will alienate major sources of funding.

archagon

Estate bequeathals and foundation grants are a far cry from direct ownership and editorial control by a single oligarch.

coliveira

Far cry or not, they're also funded by oligarchs as well.

archagon

It sounds to me like they're funded by estates and foundations, not directly by oligarchs. (In fact, most of the names in your comment are long dead.) And in any case, there's no evidence that any of these organizations are reaching in and demanding direct control over NPR's editorial direction.

You are attempting to draw a parallel where there simply is none.

webdoodle

Citizen's United destroyed journalism by making it for profit propaganda for the wealthy, but its always been under attack.

Journalism has always been under attack from the wealthy robber barons of the time. Rockefeller famously bought out the magazine/newspaper that muckraker Ida Tarbell wrote for after she wrote a damning book about Standard Oil. However, it only hardened her and other muckrakers, who later led to the break up of Standard Oil, term limits, and other restrains on the abuse of power.

I find the parallels between then and now quite striking. Except today's boogeymen have rebranded and call themselves tech billionaires. They got ahead of muckrakers by owning journalism, media, and social media, and have used there Pinkertons (Trust and Safety Teams) to censoring anyone who speaks out against them.

There are good journalists out there though. I think a modern equivalent of Ida Tarbell may be Whitney Webb for writing One Nation under Blackmail about the Epstein Files.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_Tarbell

https://unlimitedhangout.com/

pessimizer

Citizens United had nothing to do with journalism, and these newspapers, traditionally privately owned by extremely wealthy dynasties, have always been propaganda outlets. I'd argue that what made an outlet "mainstream" is the depth of its contacts with US intelligence agencies, and its willingness to put out false stories on their behalf, without any vetting, in return for getting scoops that are strategically leaked to them ahead of anyone else.

Ida Tarbell was the first useless makework liberal, a model for the current generation of movement Democrats who consider themselves fighters for the underdog through the method of threatening to generate paperwork. The breakup of Standard Oil made the owners of Standard Oil wealthier and more powerful than they were before (they owned the resulting companies.) All of that effort went to naught. The breakup of Standard Oil was to the defeat of oligarchs as Obamacare was to the defeat of an extortionate US health care system: a useless distraction executed by people who were still somehow unbelievably proud of themselves.

Ida Tarbell is a model for exactly what to avoid. The expenditure of massive effort on crusades of dubious benefit as a proxy for going after oligarchs, relieving the built-up energy of the public to actually go after oligarchs.

Like how the built up energy after the housing bubble scam was spent on passing an unconstitutional Heritage Foundation healthcare plan whose uselessness was masked by simultaneously passing an expansion to Medicaid and a massive subsidy for it. Nobody was punished for the housing bubble, for robosigning, for synthetic CDOs, for auction-rate municipal bonds; nobody went to jail; when people ask why, they're told that nobody committed a crime; when you show them the crimes, they say "what are you going to do, punish everyone?" Forget all that, now the important thing for the good liberal to do is to defend Romneycare.

All the oligarchs have to do is run the clock down, and the middle-class people who noticed something unavoidable for a moment will totally forget that it happened. They'll even somehow forget that the Washington Post has always been a conservative paper, or maybe it's that they'll forget that they themselves used to be conservatives (because their beliefs haven't changed at all.)

terminalshort

Citizens United has everything to do with journalism, but not in the way the comment you are replying to says. The CU case was over a film maker who released a political documentary and was banned from advertising it because those adds were political in nature and therefore banned by campaign finance laws. The court correctly ruled that the government had no power to regulate this because of freedom of the press.

astrange

You might have forgotten what US healthcare was like before the ACA. The ACA was good. It successfully bent the cost curve and now you don't immediately get banned from health insurance for life if you get cancer.

> Romneycare

It's called that because the Democratic legislature forced him to pass it, not because he liked it.

dragonwriter

It was modeled fairly directly on a proposal drafted as a federal alternative to the Clinton healthcare plan by lobbyists for the insurance industry and embraced by Republican national leadership in that context (which they then stopped talking about once the Clinton plan went down in flames.)

placardloop

The title makes it seem like this is a major or systemic issue, but the article content essentially says this was a one-off, potentially a mistaken omission that was fixed within 24 hours. The article itself even states that the Post routinely discloses its ties to Bezos in its reporting and this was an anomaly. I used to read the Post (I’m not a subscriber anymore) but I do distinctly remember seeing such a disclosure all over the place. Is this an attempt at outrage clicks?

Edit: people saying I didn’t read the article apparently didn’t read it themselves. From the article:

> The Post has resolutely revealed such entanglements to readers of news coverage or commentary in the past … since 2013, those of Bezos, who founded Amazon and Blue Origin. Even now, the newspaper's reporters do so as a matter of routine.

So at minimum the article disagrees with itself, but it seems the outrage bait is working hook line and sinker.

Edit 2: To try and be a little clearer here: the article is trying to (but in my opinion doing a really poor job of) make a distinction between the disclosures that the non-editorial WaPo authors do, and the disclosures that the editorial authors do, with the assertion that the editorial authors are worse at it.

afavour

The article does not say this was a one-off:

> On at least three occasions in the past two weeks

Bezos announced a relaunch of the Opinion section earlier in the year, I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder if there has been a policy change. Three times in two weeks is a lot.

> potentially a mistaken omission that was fixed within 24 hours

potentially, yes. Responsible news organizations post correction notices when they make an omission like this, but WaPo did not (despite having a history of doing so, again, a notable change in practice)

terminalshort

In journalism you can safely assume that the truth is the absolute minimum claim that can possibly fit with the exact words used.

tpmoney

Do Editorial and Opinion sections of news papers do "conflict of interest" disclosures as a matter of course? It seems like it should be assumed that an Opinion article is expressly a biased article, written by someone with an interest in the topic at hand. If the NY Times wrote an editorial on schools or on medicaid, I wouldn't really expect to see a line disclosing the number of editorial staff members with children in the school systems or with family members receiving medicaid.

And this is an honest question, I don't know what the WP standard for their Editorial and Opinion pages were prior to Bezos' ownership, nor what the broader industry standard was before say 2016.

overfeed

> And this is an honest question, I don't know what the WP standard for their Editorial and Opinion pages were prior to Bezos' ownership, nor what the broader industry standard was before say 2016.

Fortunately, the NPR journalists do know, as the article states:

>> The Post has resolutely revealed such entanglements to readers of news coverage or commentary in the past[...]

HillRat

Even now, the newspaper's reporters do so as a matter of routine.

Reporting and editorial are separate units in newspapers; the point being made is that, while reporting continues to properly disclose potential ownership conflicts of interest, editorial and op-ed, following Bezos taking direct control of them, are not doing so.

Of course, the Post is Bezos' toy, and there's no law that says he can't use editorial as a megaphone for his personal interests without disclosing them (or, in fact, even use the reporting side for the same purpose!), but you can't do that and still claim that the paper has any of the Grahams' pedigree left in it, and this is very much a change from Bezos' earlier ownership, in which he largely stayed hands-off on editorial decisions.

overfeed

Not only does gp seem to have a poor grasp on the differences between Opinion and news reporting, they also fail to correlate the problem with Bezos' ownership, so it seems to them like NPRs article is conflicting with itself when it isn't, in the slightest.

arusahni

There are two additional recent ones mentioned in the article:

> On Oct. 15, the Post heralded the military's push for a new generation of smaller nuclear reactors. "No 'microreactor' currently operates in the United States, but it's a worthy gamble that could provide benefits far beyond its military applications," the Post wrote in its editorial.

> A year ago, Amazon bought a stake in X-energy to develop small nuclear reactors to power its data centers. And through his own private investment fund, Bezos has a stake in a Canadian venture seeking nuclear fusion technology.

and

> Three days after the nuclear power editorial, the Post weighed in on the need for local authorities in Washington, D.C., to speed the approval of the use of self-driving cars in the nation's capital. The editorial was headlined: "Why D.C. is stalling on self-driving cars: Safety is a phony excuse for slamming the brakes on autonomous vehicles."

> Fewer than three weeks before, the Amazon-owned autonomous car company Zoox had announced D.C. was to be its next market.

Edit to respond to your edit: these are the opinion pages, not reporting.

xrd

It doesn't appear that you read the article at all. It states the first disclosure was added later, and without comment. And there are two other mentions of conflict of interest. Nothing you wrote is true other than that you aren't a subscriber to the Post.

HelloMcFly

Respectfully, you either skimmed this article to support your point or didn't pay proper attention. I see no ambiguity in this article - none - whatsoever. This is about Bezos's changes to the WaPo opinion pages (including their opinion editorial board), a shift to topics that matter to Bezos, and a clear loss of discipline or intent in conflict of interest disclosures when discussing such topics.

metabagel

> The Post has resolutely revealed such entanglements to readers of news coverage or commentary in the past … since 2013, those of Bezos, who founded Amazon and Blue Origin. Even now, the newspaper's reporters do so as a matter of routine.

What this is saying:

- Previously, WaPo disclosed conflicts of interest.

- They still disclose in their news articles (as opposed to in their editorials).

> So at minimum the article disagrees with itself

No.

> Edit 2: To try and be a little clearer here: the article is trying to (but in my opinion doing a really poor job of) make a distinction between the disclosures that the non-editorial WaPo authors do, and the disclosures that the editorial authors do, with the assertion that the editorial authors are worse at it.

Everyone else seems to understand but you. By the way, "non-editorial WaPo authors" are called reporters or journalists.

philipwhiuk

> So at minimum the article disagrees with itself, but it seems the outrage bait is working hook line and sinker.

No, because they aren't doing so for Amazon and Blue. That's the entire point. Find an Amazon article with a disclosure on it.

unethical_ban

It says the news section is more diligent and that the opinion pages/editorial are the ones omitting disclosures repeatedly.

And it wasn't fixed entirely - usually fixes to an article are declared in the article, and they didn't do that when they inserted the disclosure after the fact.

skybrian

My initial reaction to the White House ballroom was “the next president should tear it down and put it back the way it was, just on principle.” I was surprised by that editorial and thought it made a good (or at least arguable) point that it’s needed and the next president will be glad to have it, instead of doing large official gatherings in tents.

I’m more neutral on it now. I don’t really know what facilities the White House needs, but think the case should be made on practical grounds. Perhaps some other writer could go into that in more depth? But as editorials go, it didn’t seem like a bad one, and I don’t think adding a disclaimer about a conflict changes that much.

Separately, raising money through corporate “donations” seems like a huge loophole for corruption.

embedding-shape

The ballroom discussion isn't even part of the topic here, the point is that an article with clear conflict of interest didn't note the conflict of interest, and didn't do a correction until a 3rd party basically forced them to. And it isn't a one-off, it's now a pattern.

This shows that the organization is getting rotten from the inside, otherwise stuff like this is flagged up front, if the journalists and editors there have any journalistic integrity left in them.

metabagel

Trump doesn't have the right to tear down the White House. It doesn't belong to him. It needs to go through a design approval process.

By law, any money spent by the executive needs to come from Congressional appropriation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antideficiency_Act

> The Antideficiency Act prohibits federal employees from ... accepting voluntary services for the United States, or employing personal services not authorized by law, except in cases of emergency involving the safety of human life or the protection of property. 31 U.S.C. § 1342.

Trump said the project "won't interfere with the current building. … It will be near it but not touching it. It pays total respect to the existing building, which I’m the biggest fan of. It’s my favorite place. I love it." Then, he sent in bulldozers to bring the whole thing to the ground.

Trump is also requesting the government, of which he is the head, to cut him a check for nearly a quarter of a billion dollars.

Trump has engaged in illegal impoundment and rescission of funds and programs appropriated and authorized by Congress.

Republicans in Congress and serving on the Supreme Court are failing to check Trump's lawlessness.

Trump has stated that he would like to serve an unconstitutional third term as president. If this comes to pass, it would mark the end of the American democratic experiment.

mey

Is the Whitehouse fit for purpose in the modern age? Probably not. Is it a symbol of the country? Yes. Messing with that symbol on what seems to be a whim funded by corporate interests rather than doing something public and methodical is disgusting. Especially with a government shutdown.

We aren't even getting bread and circuses, just Nero at this point.

terminalshort

> Is it a symbol of the country? Yes

The actual White House, yes. Some out building of the compound, no. If you showed me a picture of it a month ago I would have no idea what it was. This whole thing is bribery, no doubt, but compared to all of the other Trump corruption this one is the least bad.

eszed

It's a much more fitting symbol now than it was before.

LightBug1

Correct ... they should leave the East Wing in rubble, just as a representative symbol for future generations.

buellerbueller

Sorry you're getting downvoted, but you're commenting on an article about conflicts of interest, among the crowd with the conflicts of interest.

Silicon Valley, Venture Capital: they're the sociopaths whose current project is "disrupting" democratic governance.

mey

Thank you for your concern, but there is thankfully more to life than fake internet points.

burkaman

The issue is not whether or not the White House needs a new room, it's that the private funding model is an incredibly obvious avenue for bribery. Every single "donor" has immediate business with the federal government, and they've seen how easily Trump will sell pardons or diplomatic favors or merger approvals to anyone who pays him enough. There is no other plausible explanation for the list of funders. If this were an important and practical addition to the building, then the government could pay for it without any corruption necessary.

An honest editorial might say something like "this addition is a good idea, but why are these specific people (including my employer) paying for it"?

terminalshort

It's absolutely bribery, but does it really even bear mentioning compared to the other flagrant forms of bribery going on perfectly legally? Even before Trump turned the corruption levels up to 11, paying retired politicians millions for speeches and massive super PAC donations seem much worse than a project like this where the public actually gets some benefit from it.

skybrian

Such an article would just be repeating what everyone else already said. The editorial actually said something new (new to me, anyway) that added to the discussion, which seems valuable.

burkaman

Imagine reading a thoughtful and substantive HN comment about the benefits of a new product, and then later realizing that the commenter failed to mention they are a major investor in the product. You would feel mildly annoyed or misled, right? Now you have to reevaluate the comment and figure out if it was primarily driven by "engineer evaluating a new tool" or "guy who wants to make money", and you'll probably want to find more unbiased reviews before paying for the product.

Now scale your annoyance based on how important you think the White House and presidential power are relative to some random Launch HN post. In this case, knowing the financial motivations of the publisher, was the editorial actually valuable? They say: "this project would not have gotten done, certainly not during his term, if the president had gone through the traditional review process. The blueprints would have faced death by a thousand papercuts." Is this a misleading premise, was there actually a lot of process and red tape preventing a president from doing this renovation the "traditional" way? I have no idea, and since I can't trust this source I have to go find out some other way.

Did they leave out any other important information? They say: "Privately, many alumni of the Biden and Obama White Houses acknowledge the long-overdue need for an event space like what Trump is creating. It is absurd that tents need to be erected on the South Lawn for state dinners, and VIPs are forced to use porta-potties." Is this true? Again I don't know and I can't trust the authors.

Like the HN investor example, we can't tell if this editorial was primarily driven by "observer knowledgeable about the needs of the presidential office" or "guy who wants the president to eliminate the NLRB". It doesn't mean the editorial is wrong, but it does mean it isn't really valuable because you'll have to find other sources to verify its claims.

cogman10

> it’s needed and the next president will be glad to have it, instead of doing large official gatherings in tents.

This may be true, it's simply the way that it's approached that has my hackles up. This is something that should have been provisioned and approved by congress.

> Separately, raising money through corporate “donations” seems like a huge loophole for corruption.

The US corruption laws are laughably bad. You don't even need this sort of loophole other than to avoid reporting on who's doing the donations.

There's basically nothing that really prevents someone from giving a Justice, Senator, congress person, or the president a yacht, airplane, home, or a "loan" that gets forgiven. The only real limits is that's supposed to be reported (and that foreign governments can't do the same). Yes yes, the bribery law states that you can't pay someone to perform an official act. However, if you simply give them a gift that doesn't count. Even when that person is actively working on official acts that directly impact you.

vjvjvjvjghv

“ The US corruption laws are laughably bad”

The crazy thing is that if you are a low rank Congress staffer or other government employee, the anti corruption rules are actually quite strict. It only loosens up the higher you go.

cogman10

Totally agree. For the average federal employee there are (or at least were) a huge amount of checks in place to weed out corruption. That was sort of the entire point of the inspectors general, to track down and weed out fraud and corruption.

Even for the FBI and most of the other police agencies there was a decent amount of checks in place to make sure they weren't acting out of pocket. It's ICE and the CIA that have had much less restrictions.

metabagel

> You don't even need this sort of loophole other than to avoid reporting on who's doing the donations.

There is no loophole. What Trump is doing is flatly illegal.

https://www.gao.gov/legal/appropriations-law/resources

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antideficiency_Act

fdschoeneman

I agree that Bezos should have disclosed his links to the construction through Amazon, but I also think every single reporter for NPR, including and especially the one who wrote this, should disclose their personal, family, and political relationships to political parties and politicians before reporting on them.

One standard.