ChatGPT Atlas
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·October 21, 2025sloankev
granzymes
Thankfully the New York Times lost their attempt to force OpenAI to continue preserving all logs on an ongoing basis, but they still need to keep some of the records they retained before September.
https://mashable.com/article/openai-court-ordered-chat-gpt-p...
ragequittah
I'm not so sure this is much worse than Chrome. Really in today's world if you're not browsing the web like multiple people are looking over your shoulder you're probably doing it wrong. And most of the steps people do to mitigate privacy violations (TOR, pihole, VPNs, etc.) probably make any signal you do put out more scrutinized. The one solution I do like is the iCloud private relay which I hope some reputable VPN vendors pick up soon.
zghst
You are so me, exactly.
darepublic
My general understanding is that they browser fingerprint you. And then if that fingerprint is ever detected on a site that also knows your pii they have you. Is that the gist of it or are there more shenanigans I'm unaware of
nerdponx
"They" aren't that interested in PII. They're interested in assigning a unique identifier for you and building as detailed of a profile about you as possible, for targeting ads to you, and more recently tailoring prices to maximize value extraction when you buy something. Focusing on the narrow definition of "PII" as it usually is defined in law is a total distraction. Your email address and name are irrelevant for all of that.
mvieira38
> And most of the steps people do to mitigate privacy violations (TOR, pihole, VPNs, etc.) probably make any signal you do put out more scrutinized.
If you're using them correctly there is no way to scrutinize your traffic more, these comments just spread FUD for no good reason. How are "they" unable to catch darkweb criminals for years and even decades, but somehow can tell if it's me browsing reddit over Tor?
alganet
There are two distinct concerns here.
One of them is personal privacy. For example, an activist being individually targeted.
The other is behavioral targeting, which has no business in catching criminals. It wants to know how large flocks of people behave online.
throitallaway
Does Google have my .env files that I've opened via Chrome?
bdangubic
it has yours and your next door neighbour's as well
MisterTea
> Why isn’t this a bigger problem for people?
I have friends who are in tech and perfectly aware of the implications but prefer the low effort route. They feel that A. they are not important enough for someone else to care about and B. there is so much data that it is unlikely their data will be seen by anyone.
sloankev
They literally created a precedent that’s it’s for use in legal cases if required… why would you want your entire digital life subject to subpoena?
qmr
I think you meant wary.
wear·y /ˈwirē/ adjective 1. feeling or showing extreme tiredness, especially as a result of excessive exertion. "he gave a long, weary sigh" 2. reluctant to see or experience any more of; tired of. "she was weary of their constant arguments" verb 1. cause to become tired. "she was wearied by her persistent cough" 2. grow tired of or bored with. "she wearied of the sameness of her life"
/ˈwerē/ adjective feeling or showing caution about possible dangers or problems. "dogs that have been mistreated often remain very wary of strangers"
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gh0stcat
The thing I find the most funny about all of these demos is they outsource tasks that are pretty meaningful ... choosing where to hike, learning more about the world around you, instead, you'll be told what to do and live in blissful ignorance. The challenge of living life is also the joy, at least to me. Plus I would never trust a company like openai with all of my personal information. This is definitely just them wanting greater and greater control and data from their users.
beardyw
To me AI is like having a young graduate come to live with you as an assistant. It's happy to do some research for you though not very inspired. But make lunch? No. Do some cleaning. Def no, but happy to chat about how you should do it. It all seems a bit pointless in the end.
pastel8739
I have a sad semi-fantasy, semi-fear, that AI will show us that everything we do online is rather pointless and force us back into the real world (this would cause me and most of this site to lose our jobs, hence the fear part)
sixtyj
Be patient. In few years, it will be a senior graduate :)
hollowturtle
How could you positively and constructively add to the discussion by literally having the truth in your hands of what the future will be? The only thing I know it is that it's not even a young graduate, as soon as you have someone with a bit of domain expertise it will tell you how many lies they output
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cush
It’s always “Book me a flight” or “write an email”. Like all we do is email people about where we’re flying next
rrrrrrrrrrrryan
Remember Quibi? It was a streaming platform of TV shows, where they were filmed in portrait mode instead of landscape, and the episodes were 5 minutes instead of 30.
Their pitch was basically: "Nobody has time to sit down and watch a whole TV show anymore, that's why the short form content like Instagram and TikTok is doing so well - we're going to make TV shows to compete with those platforms that you can watch while you're waiting in line for a coffee!"
They got like billions of dollars in runway because the idea resonated so deeply with the boardrooms full of executives that they were pitching to, but the idea was completely dead on arrival. Normal (non-career-obsessed) people actually have a TON of free time. They chain-smoke entire seasons of shitty reality TV in one sitting. They plop down on the weekend and watch sports for hours on end, not on a phone, but on an actual TV in their living room.
I definitely agree that a ton of these AI use cases seem hyper-tailored to the executives running these companies and the investors that are backing them, and may not resonate at all with the broader population nor lead to widespread adoption.
iknowstuff
have you heard about second screen content
kelseyfrog
If you've ever wanted insight into what C-suite is doing all day, it's this.
seeEllArr
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seizethecheese
I find the hike itself more meaningful than the searching for it. If an LLM can recommend be me a better hike, I’m all for it.
The word choice here: “you’ll be told what to do” doesn’t really reflect my experience with LLMs. You can always ask for more recommendations or push back.
(As an aside, I’ve found LLMs to be terrible for recommending books.)
andoando
I found a big part of what makes doing an activity enjoyable is the time spent thinking/planning involed to make it happen.
For example if I spent a week looking at exactly how to plan my trip, and then finally going out to accomplish it vs just waking up one morning and someone guiding me on exactly what to do
ascorbic
An aside to the aside: I did too, until I exported my Goodreads ratings and uploaded the CSV. Then it's pretty great.
groby_b
You can usually do with less than the full history. "Here are five books where I liked the tone/setting/worldbuilding/topic, gimme more" has proven pretty successful.
With gradual refinement - "I like #1 and #4, but I wonder if something like that exists with a 40s scifi tone. Gimme your top 10"
It's... mostly worked out so far. (It also turns out that some topics, I seem to have thoroughly explored. Taking recommendations for off-the-beaten-path heist novels :)
threetonesun
It would be great if it could do my taxes, or schedule a doctor's appointment, or do literally anything that's actually difficult and time consuming, but because those problems haven't already been solved by APIs it can't and never will be able to.
infecto
Did we watch the same demo. Maybe I skipped over those parts. It nailed one of my immediate needs. Grocery shopping. I really don’t want to waste time adding items to my Walmart shopping cart for pickup or delivery. I want to send a bunch of recipe videos, get back a book of my version of how to format a recipe and also a cart full for me to click purchase. They nailed this.
miltonlost
Until you look at the demo video and they put $12 worth of green onions in the shopping bag because chatgpt thought 6 green onions == 6 bunches of green onions
infecto
Saw that and still not a concern here. Quicker to refine than it is to work through the whole list.
codinhood
Yeah I thought the same, they're automating ordering on instacart. That's such a small task. I wonder if it was a paid product placement
chis
I can totally see wanting to automate your life like this for work - "re-order that shipment from last week" or "bump my flight a day". But using this for personal stuff, it does seem like a slide towards just living a totally automated life.
felarof
This is exactly our vision as well!
But we want to enable you to run these automations using local models, which would be secure and privacy-first
schnable
Yeah, it's weird, I want to use LLMs to automate the boring stuff! But it all requires MFA to login so it doesn't work.
ZeljkoS
Here are the highlights from the .DMG installer screens (https://imgur.com/a/Tu4TlNu):
1. Turn on browser memories Allow ChatGPT to remember useful details as you browse to give smarter responses and proactive suggestions. You're in control - memories stay private.
2. Ask ChatGPT - on any website Open the ChatGPT sidebar on any website to summarize, explain, or handle tasks - right next to what you're browsing.
3. Make your cursor a collaborator ChatGPT can help you draft emails, write reviews, or fill out forms. Highlight text inside a form field or doc and click the ChatGPT logo to get started.
4. Set as default browser BOOST CHATGPT LIMITS Unlock 7 days of extended limits on messaging, file uploads, data analysis, and image generation on ChatGPT Atlas.
5. You're all set — welcome to Atlas! Have fun exploring the web with ChatGPT by your side, all while staying in control of your data and privacy. (This screen also displays shareable PNG badge with days since you registered for ChatGPT and Atlas).
My guess is that many ChatGPT Free users will make it their default browser just because of (4) — to extend their limits. Creative :)
granzymes
Being able to search browser history with natural language is the feature I am most excited for. I can't count the number of times I've spent >10 minutes looking for a link from 5 months ago that I can describe the content of but can't remember the title.
lxgr
In my experience, as long as the site is public, just describing what I want to ChatGPT 5 (thinking) usually does the trick, without having to give it access to my own browsing history.
elric
Are we talking searching the URLs and titles? Or the full body of the page? The latter would require tracking a fuckton of data, including a whole lot of potentially sensitive data.
Ethee
All of these LLMs already have the ability to go fetch content themselves, I'd imagine they'd just skim your URLs then do it's own token-efficient fetching. When I use research mode with Claude it crawls over 600 web pages sometimes so imagine they've figured out a way to skim down a lot of the actual content on pages for token context.
hbn
I find browser history used to be pretty easy to search through and then Google got cute by making it into your "browsing journeys" or something and suddenly I couldn't find anything
jacekm
I think that such feature is already available in Chrome https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/15305774?hl=en
baal80spam
Ah, makes sense why I need to use an extension for that:
> To use this feature, you must be located in the US
6thbit
This may be the first time I see a 'perk' of choosing a browser as default.
People will probably leave it default past the perk period.
tim333
I tried making it my default browser because of (4)
You miss the most questionable bit which is asking for keychain access. I said no to that one.
Skunkleton
A browser using your keychain seems like the least questionable bit, if anything.
Analemma_
Right, but most browsers aren't owned by money-losing startups desperate for any bit of training data they can get their hands on as scaling taps out.
I really doubt OpenAI consciously wants my passwords, but I could absolutely see a poorly-coded (or vibe-coded, lol) OpenAI process somehow getting my keychain into their training set anyway, and then somebody being able to ask Chat-GPT 6, "hey, what's Analemma_'s gmail password?" and it happily supplying it. The dismal state of LLM scraper behavior and its support (or lack thereof) of adherence to best practices lends credibility to this.
terhechte
Weird, I didn't get that question. It asked for full disk access so it could import my Safari settings, but that was optional.
conartist6
Giving people money to set you as your default browser seems like it might be, idunno, like, maybe a little bit anticompetitive and dystopian
erikig
It feels like a natural competitive extension to any company seriously trying to usurp Google's browser domination including but not limited to paying Apple to be the default search engine
bdangubic
getting an 50 mile Uber ride for $25 when taxi was charging me $100 sure got that app onto my phone... once I had the app on the phone...
callc
Or maybe a prime example of healthy capitalism! /s
cekanoni
How can you trust company that says Privacy in your control or some nonsense like that, when they scraped the whole internet and breached the foundation of privacy :)
lxgr
I do see the copyright/intellectual property angle of training LLMs on the entire web, but what's the privacy issue here?
If you publish something on the web, what are you expecting to happen?
felarof
You should try us :) open-source and privacy-first alternative to Atlas -- https://github.com/browseros-ai/BrowserOS
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Yizahi
Watching this "IT revolution" being presented on the extremely lagging website is very ironic :) . Interesting how many unnecessary layered graphics they've used. First outline of the pseudo windows were rendered, then windows in one color, then windows in another color... And getting video player fully visible in the frame took me a few tries, fighting lagging scroll. :)
mentalgear
So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf.
I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approach. Of course that would require top-tier ML engineers who mostly all are pay-captured by Big Tech.
bogwog
What value? I haven't used them myself, but from reviews I've seen on Youtube they appear to be flaky and not all that useful. It reminds me of when voice assistants like Siri came out, and it turned out that the only thing they were good for was setting timers, controlling music playback, and gimmicky stuff like that.
mapontosevenths
Try it yourself and ignore the hype. For certain things it can be really useful, just keep in mind that it's early days.
I recently used Comet to find out of print movies that were never released on DVD/Bluray, then find them on ebay, then find the best value, then provide me with a list to order. It felt like magic watching it work, and saved me many hours of either doing it myself or scripting it.
I did have to repeatedly break it into ever smaller tasks to get everything to fit within the context windows, but still... it might have been janky but it was janky magic.
forthac
I'm mostly just curious how that experience differs from using chatgpt directly and having it run searches and present the results?
TranquilMarmot
Surely this is something you can do with simple searches...? Unless you're reaching the level of trying to buy dozens or hundreds of movies.
oblio
> Significant losses: Internal documents revealed that Amazon's devices division lost over $25 billion between 2017 and 2021. A separate report estimated the Alexa division alone lost around $10 billion in 2022.
oezi
Think about this way: They subsidized the hardware and hardware development too much and created a messy third-party ecosystem rather than focusing these 25 bn USD on developing an AI chat (OpenAI spent less in total).
fragmede
At what point does the gimmick become a product feature that people use and come to expect? I set alarms/timers and control music with Siri every day. Siri still sucks for more than that, and I wish it were good for more, but I really do like and use those features.
lazharichir
Definitely the feature but I'm sure Gemini is seconds away (figuratively) from invading Chrome and if it has an agent mode itself, it will eat everybody's lunch in the browser space.
shit_game
So the fear is a new Chrome, but "agentic"?
It's not an irrational fear, but the frightening bit depends on whether or not this actually takes off. I very much doubt it ever will. The browser ecosystem, despite being in desperate need of upheaval, is largely resiliant to it because things that work don't tend to get replaced unless they are broken to a point where even the most basic of users are inconvenienced. Or forced to change (due to vendor pressure). Oh, there's the rational fear.
baby
Downloaded Comet last week and I was wondering why anthropic/openAI didn't have one. It's a no brainer. Google's hegemony is really going to take a hit, wondering if hardware-software monopolies like Apple are also going to get hit at some point.
parthdesai
> It's a no brainer. Google's hegemony is really going to take a hit
Wonder which company has the best in class browser today, along with a really really good model, an in-house chip, datacenter infra, and most importantly, is cash flow positive?
noir_lord
> But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf.
Do not want, I want none of it and no part of it.
I'll use Lynx before I use that.
AI is already infesting search results directly (til I adblocked it), writing the crap on whatever page I just landed on and led me to turn unhook up to "just show the damn video" on YT.
I've yet to see a single use of AI that in any way improves my life and I'm supposed to hand companies who are already too powerful even more of my life/data for that.
I'll pass.
From my point of view it's become very tiresome pretending the emperor is wearing clothes or at least not pointing that out.
oezi
We have to ask when is Chrome bringing this functionality? With Gemini
andrewinardeer
Can't be far off.
giancarlostoro
I would definitely prefer these to be browser plugins that have clear sandboxing instead of owning my entire browser. That said, I do like Comet.
mapontosevenths
Websites are terrible from a security, usability, accessibility, privacy, and mental health perspective. These tools could be used to fix all of those things. Instead they're just being used to do the same old junk, but like... faster.
I want an AI browser that digs into webpages, finds the information I want and presents it to me in a single consistent and beautiful UI with all of the hazards removed. Yes, I even want the stupid machine to filter content for me. If I tell it "no politics on Tuesdays" it should be able to go find the things I'm interested in, but remove the references to politics.
I understand that there are new risks to this approach, but it could be built with those things in mind. I'm aware that this would give a lot of power to the developers, but frankly trusting thousands/millions of individual weirdos on the open web hasn't turned out to be any better at this point and it's all become consolidated by near monopolies in user-hostile ways anyhow.
mentalgear
I share many of your ideas, and I think the best solution would be:
1. a pure data API web (like the original semantic-web idea)
2. open-source browsers which can query for information using on-device LLMs and display it to the user in any UI way they want.
I think 1. will happen, since all search engines will use AI results, with no click through to the original data-owner (website). So there is no more financial incentive to keep a UI website. The question is if the "data API web" will be decentralised or under the control of a few big players that already mined the web.
2. will hopefully happen if on-device models become more capable, the question is by then whether most people are already defaulted to AI browsers from big tech (since they have the money to burn-cash using cloud LLM services to capture market share before on-device LLMs are good enough). The only way to prevent this is user-education and mistrust verus Big Tech, which is what already befell Microsoft's Recall (besides a terrible security architecure).
irilesscent
> I want an AI browser that digs into webpages, finds the information I want and presents it to me in a single consistent and beautiful UI with all of the hazards removed.
The browser you're looking for already exists :) (partially) its called arc browser on mobile and specifically their browse for me feature
bredren
OpenAI picking up where Apple Intelligence continues to severely lag.
I'd prefer these features were bundled into MacOS.
Where possible, process using FoundationLLM, and having Apple reach for their own privately hosted instance of a frontier model when needed.
It seems obvious to me the company must transform macOS's capabilities here as quality AI assistance is enmeshed in the operating system's UX as a whole.
I think Apple Intelligence probably has good bones to begin with but is vastly underpowered in the local model and needs to hide frontier model usage completely in its tech stack.
whycome
The whole integration thing is weird. Siri sucks. ChatGPT can be triggered in a similar way. Siri can use ChatGPT. AppleIntelligence is garbage. I think apple is in a weird crisis spot where they can't quite figure out how to integrate it all, and are scared of ditching Siri entirely. Or maybe any kinds of ChatGPT integrations have just been stopgaps.
Or, they go way deeper into integrations. They let ChatGPT in deeper. And they even give up that coveted 'default search' spot that Google pays them ~20b a year for. Atlas seems like it would compete with Safari?
It is interesting that OpenAI seems to be doing an Apple-first approach with some of its projects (sora2, Atlas)
jryio
If you think this is useful... remember technology like this would make totalitarian leaders foam at the mouth.
If you thought that ads are creepy, Atlas is a root level keylogger service. Why would you want an AI company scraping and recording all of your browser interactions.
Yes Google already does this via Chrome. It's one thing to build a predictive model on your demographic, spending, location and income information in order to target then sell you advertisements...
Quite another thing to build a model of your cognition by recording you from a company that is trying to build general intelligence - this is a training data and cognition exfiltration play.
hbn
After skimming the product page I'm still not sure what extra data exactly everyone is so confident is being gathered/used in a way that Google wouldn't already be doing in Chrome. As far as I can tell, most of these features are already integrated into Chrome but with Gemini.
What exact feature in Atlas would need to log your every keystroke? Could they be doing that? Yes. But so could Google and in both cases they've got about equal reason to be doing it and feeding it into your personalized prediction model.
I don't see how this is so different from Chrome.
EGreg
Our trusted computing base should be small, built from open-source, and not under the control of one company.
But sadly, here we are.
How do we know GMail can't steal your bank account info and Chrome can't steal ... everything from your web browsing, or impersonate you?
All they have to do is be pressured by a government: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislat...
dotancohen
Could you mention where in that bill there is concern for the Australian government pressuring tech companies for the ability to impersonate you? Thank you!
GenerWork
>It's one thing to build a predictive model on your demographic, spending and location and income information in order to target and sell you advertisements, and quite another thing to build a model of your cognition itself by recording you
If Atlas is successful, there's no reason why Google won't try to mimic it. They already have Chrome and Gemini, all they'd have to do is put Gemini directly into Chrome, dedicate some TPUs to Gemini instances that are tied to Chrome, and boom, it's Atlas.
babelfish
Gemini is already in Chrome. Atlas seems neat but it is not a unique product.
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onlyrealcuzzo
> If Atlas is successful, there's no reason why Google won't try to mimic it.
Regulation.
nextworddev
They already have Gemini for chrome which no one uses.
ncr100
There's a dedicated button for it, now .. I speculate its usage will take up soon.
- Chrome 141.0.7390.108 macOS
andysinclair
and there is Copilot for Edge which no one uses.
It can also summarize pages, scale recipes etc.
beardyw
Not sure how you can say that. Half the time you do a search the answer comes from Gemini. It might be the most used, without anyone doing it deliberately.
ethmarks
> all they'd have to do is put Gemini directly into Chrome
Google would never do that! /s
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ssl-3
My web browser runs as root?
Atlas runs as root?
Atlas is a keylogger that indiscriminately watches what I type?
Are any of these things true?
jsheard
I assume they mean a web browser has root access to everything you do online, which is so far-reaching nowadays that it's not far from having root over your whole machine in terms of actual exposure.
kvirani
Yes
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mk89
Man, literally everything we have been doing since the 90's makes totalitarian leaders foam at the mouth.
Do you understand we're willingly sharing our name, surname, relationships, friends, where we work, what we do, how much we make (not maybe precisely, but with some social engineering you can get that), in some cases even private intimate videos, pics of our families, etc. Everything.
There is nothing else they need anymore. If they want to, they get you. Any time. And yet, things work relatively well.
TranquilMarmot
This seems like a very good way for them to get more training data that they're hungry for after ingesting everything from the web.
kvirani
Well said. Can't wait for the windows version so I can use it. Jk jk
femiagbabiaka
The solution seems to be the Apple approach, problem is that people don't seem to like that UX very much.
CuriouslyC
The problem with the apple approach is that it's fine grained and you have to restart apps for every change. I wouldn't care if nothing was allowed by default if when an app tried to do stuff it popped up the dialog at that time and asked for permissions needed to accomplish that task, but having to toggle stuff separately and restart the app each time is horrible UX.
sansseriff
I haven't used LLM chrome plugins because I couldn't trust that they weren't collecting more information about my browsing than I'd like. The same concern exists for this, though now I'm just confident it's a giant software company with access to my data rather than some shady plugin developer. I'm faced with asking myself if that's actually better...
jmkni
Yeah I find LLM's very powerful in the right context, but I like to keep them at arms length
I will go to them when I need something, instead of them spying on me incase I need something
sansseriff
There's a great value proposition for a company like Private Internet Access or NordVPN to create an AI browser extension or full-on browser. Anonymize requests and provide various LLM models. Rely on your reputation as a privacy focused corp to pull people away from these OpenAI/Perplexity offerings.
bebopfunk
Kagi is starting down that path
srcreigh
OpenAI pins certificates on their macOS chatgpt app, so it’s hard to monitor the data they’re collecting.
fragmede
The problem with sharing the workaround is that OpenAI employees undoubtedly read HN, so if someone were to describe how to do that, it'll get blocked pretty soon after (if there even is one).
babelfish
Why would an LLM plugin be able to access more on the page hten any other plugin? This seems like a misunderstanding of how manifests work
dudeinhawaii
I'm usually an early adopter but wow every single browser except Firefox features AI integrations. It feels like a recipe for profound privacy leaks in the future. I suppose that's already a risk with OpenAI/Anthropic/Gemini/etc websites but this will increase the blast radius exponentially.
nneonneo
...Firefox has an AI integration natively built in; have you not seen it yet?
bnrdr
Anyone else struggling to scroll on that page with Firefox on the iPhone? After a while the weird windows in the background at the top of the page seem to move but not the rest of content.
Must be vibe coded. Top quality stuff.
ncr100
Could this be an Extension, for Chrome / Firefox / Edge / and others ?
Are these extension-fodder:
- "new tab" shows custom UI with LLM prompt
- Reads contents of user's web page in Chat UI, shown alongside web page
- new UI gizmo at Text-selection, showing ChatGPT flower icon, with context features available for selected text
- maintains "agent personality / context" (IDK the term) across tabs
badlogic
Yes, the only reason they are building a browser is to gobble up more data.
hypeatei
That's what I thought: is an extension really that restrictive to where you need your own fork of a browser engine?
It appears to me like they're posturing to investors on the AI hype train. Publishing an extension isn't as sexy or "grand" as shipping a browser.
threetonesun
Putting your brand name on the primary application users interact with on a computer is probably a few billion times more valuable than an extension in a thing under someone else's brand.
ncr100
For-profit customizations (via an extension) may want to fork to avoid competitive situations such as e.g. the multi-year struggle between uBlock Origin extension and Google:
- https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/About-Google-Chrome's...
Not for-profit may fare better, tolerating and pivoting as corporate owners attempt to strategically vendor-lock-in new markets, presented to e.g. Google by the innovators of the extension.
peab
Yeah, but it's the same reason why Cursor forked VS-Code instead of being an extension
realharo
Controlling the full browser gives you a lot more freedom for any future additions.
doso
Something's bugging me about Atlas - it's clearly Chromium-based (you can tell from the user agent and UI), but I can't find any credit to Chromium anywhere. No license info, no acknowledgments, and when I try to access chrome:// pages they're blocked.
Maybe I'm overthinking this, but shouldn't there be some transparency about what you're building on top of? Especially with open source projects that have attribution requirements? I get that it's still early days, but this feels like a pretty basic thing to get right.
Anyone else notice this or know if this is standard practice? Just seems odd to me that they're not being upfront about the foundation they're building on.
doso
Just to add some official context on this, Chromium's BSD license explicitly requires attribution in derivative works. The notice clause says: "Include a readable copy of the attribution notices contained within such NOTICE file…within a NOTICE text file distributed as part of the Derivative Works; within the Source form or documentation, if provided along with the Derivative Works; or, within a display generated by the Derivative Works, if and wherever such third-party notices normally appear." It's not just good practice—this is a legal requirement. Surprised Atlas skipped this.
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/config/+/refs/h...
awwaiid
I asked Atlas about this, and it indirectly pointed out that atlas://credits is a thing. Not linked to anywhere that I could find though.
doso
Honestly, it feels like they're intentionally trying to scrub any traces of Chromium or Google. No mention anywhere, blocked chrome:// pages, UI stripped of references—it's as if they don't want users to realize it's built on open-source tech. It's a weird move for transparency and doesn't sit right with me, especially with all the attribution requirements.
Im still weary of OpenAI being legally required to retain all of your data even if you delete it [0] . This means everything you expose to this tool will be permanently stored somewhere. Why isn’t this a bigger problem for people?
Even privacy concerns aside… this would be the world’s most catastrophic data leak.
[0]: https://openai.com/index/response-to-nyt-data-demands/