Do not accept terms and conditions
32 comments
·October 17, 2025topkai22
odie5533
No chance that would hold up in court. Clickwraps have been tested in courts and are fully enforceable.
wat10000
And keep in mind that (at least in the US) the opposite of "I accept the terms and conditions" is not "I get to do whatever I want," it's "I am accessing this service without authorization, which is a crime under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act."
isoprophlex
Their heroku setup is having a moment. But if this is about the game I've been playing with my rude ass car that started nagging me about Kia's t&c update, weeks after i first got it, every time i start the engine...
I'm not sure if I'm winning and I'm not sure if the game is fun anymore. at least the car and I have been playing a single game of me declining the t&c and please ask me again later for some three years and a few months now. So the replay value is high.
Also sometimes my wife pretends to go for the "accept" button and it makes me all hot and bothered
Etheryte
If you're in Europe, then most new cars do that right now. There was an EU-wide court case some time ago whether tracking consent can be one-and-done in a car or not because different people can be driving a car at different times, if memory serves well. Rather than simply drop the tracking, the car manufacturers decided to just nag you every time. This is now the first thing on my list when looking for a new car, if they do stuff like that I'm not buying.
agile-gift0262
My Toyota also got that game in a DLC about a year after I bought it
isoprophlex
Mozilla did an expose a while back on what's hidden in those terms, IIRC. Things like "we want to know do you use the heated seats" (okay... useful free market research maybe) but also "we store personality profiles including your sexual preferences"
Somewhere I hope a PM is deliberating the intricacies of automotive teledildonics. I hope.
fainpul
This game seems to be all the rage right now. I've seen clones of it everywhere.
lazycouchpotato
Site's borked, but for those that were able to access it, is it like Ente's https://consent.gg/ ?
fph
Note to everyone: disable your adblocker when visiting that website, or you'll see only an empty page with a countdown.
geminiboy
Shameless Plug
I created this web application to review the terms and conditions of website and show an LLM surface the ugly parts of the TOS.
tosreview.org/
Shoutout: this was inspired by the amazing humans at tosdr.org
coffeecoders
Your site gives me ssl error.
frenchmajesty
I get a Heroku error trying to view the site.
eric-p7
That means you won the game.
johnsillings
same
zahlman
> You need to enable JavaScript to play.
I didn't enable JavaScript. Does that mean I win?
technothrasher
WOPR would be proud.
brudgers
Yes. You won the whole internet.
0cf8612b2e1e
Broken for me, but going off of the headline, I have been playing the same game with Apple Health. Refuse to accept what probably gives them some wiggle room to monetize my health information. Which also means that I cannot setup a wake up alarm, only generic alarms.
arkadiyt
Apple Health data is end-to-end encrypted, even without using ADP. They don't have access to it: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651
0cf8612b2e1e
That is cute, but if big tech goes out of its way to get specific permissions to do something, I am going to assume it is not in my best interests.
Sure, Apple is less bad than many others, but that does not mean they are trustworthy.
midtake
I assumed it was to update your sleep stats in health.
paulddraper
> An error occurred in the application and your page could not be served. If you are the application owner, check your logs for details. You can do this from the Heroku CLI with the command heroku logs --tail
ratelimitsteve
HN hug of death?
For mandatory T&Cs I'll put in the signature box "Decline", including updating the HTML page to say "decline" instead of "OK" and screenshotting it or modifying the HTTP response sent back to include riders.
I know it probably won't matter, but it's kind of fun for me.