AI is ushering in a 'tiny team' era
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·June 21, 2025neom
One area of business that I'm struggling in is now boring it is talking to an LLM, I enjoy standing at a whiteboard thinking through ideas, but more and more I see push for "talk to the llm, ask the llm, the llm will know" - The LLM will know, but I'd rather talk to a human about it. Also in pure business, it takes me too long to unlock nuances that an experienced human just knows, I have to do a lot of "yeah but" work, way way more than I would have to do with an experienced humans. I like LLMs and I push for their use, but I'm starting to find something here and I can't put my finger on what it is, I guess they're not wide enough to capture deep nuances? As a result, they seem pretty bad at understanding how a human will react to their ideas in practice.
andy99
It's not quite the same but since the dawn of smartphones, I've hated it when you ask a question, as a discussion starter or to get people's views, and some jerk reads off the wikipedia answer as if that's some insight I didn't know was available to me, and basically ruins the discussion.
I know talking to an llm is not exactly parallel, but it's a similar idea, it's like talking to the guy with wikipedia instead of batting back and forth ideas and actually thinking about stuff.
james_marks
This has peaked in my circles, thankfully. Now it’s considered a bit of a faux pas to look up an answer during a discussion, for exactly this reason.
sheepscreek
I know what you mean. Also, the more niche your topic the more outright wrong LLMs tend to be. But for white-boarding or brainstorming - they can actually be pretty good. Just make sure you’re talking to a “large” model - avoid the minis and even “Flash” models like the plague. They’ve only ever disappointed me.
Adding another bit - the multi-modality brings them a step closer to us. Go ahead and use the physical whiteboard, then take a picture of it.
Probably just a matter of time before someone hooks up Excalidraw/Miro/Freeform into an LLM (MCPs FTW).
ricw
Just do both? Need an adequate network for that though which new school ai vibe entrepreneurs might lack…
neom
Both indeed. I'm older, I do consulting, often to the new school AI CEOs and they keep thinking I'm nuts for saying we should bring in this person to talk to about this thing...I've tried to explain to a few folks now a human would be much better in this loop, but I have no good way to prove it as it's just experience.
I've noticed across the board, they also spend A LOT of time getting all the data into LLMs so they can talk to them instead of just reading reports, like bro, you don't understand churn fundamentally, why are you looking at these numbers??
handfuloflight
With the LLM, you're free to ask any question without worrying about what the other party might think of you for asking that question.
PixyMisa
Whereas with humans, you'll get valuable pushback for ideas that have already failed.
handfuloflight
The wisdom to know what to ask humans and what to ask the machine.
WXLCKNO
I'm working on a bunch of different projects trying out new stuff all the time for the past six months.
Every time I do something I add another layer of AI automation/enhancement to my personal dev setup with the goal of trying to see how much I can extend my own ability to produce while delivering high quality projects.
I definitely wouldn't say I'm 10x of what I could do before across the board but a solid 2-3x average.
In some respects like testing, it's perhaps 10x because having proper test coverage is essential to being able to let agentic AI run by itself in a git worktree without fearing that it will fuck everything up.
I do dream of a scenario where I could have a company that's equivalent to 100 or 1000 people with just a small team of close friends and trusted coworkers that are all using this kind of tooling.
I think the feeling of small companies is just better and more intimate and suits me more than expanding and growing by hiring.
charliebwrites
> Every time I do something I add another layer of AI automation/enhancement to my personal dev setup with the goal of trying to see how much I can extend my own ability to produce while delivering high quality projects
Can you give some examples? What’s worked well?
haiku2077
- Extremely strict linting and formatting rules for every language you use in a project. Including JSON, YAML, SQL.
- Using AI code gen to make your own dev tools to automate tasks. Everything from "I need a make target to automate updating my staging and production config files when I make certain types of changes" or "make an ETL to clean up this dirty database" to "make a codegen tool to automatically generate library functions from the types I have defined" and "generate a polished CLI for this API for me"
- Using Tilt (tilt.dev) to automatically rebuild and live-reload software on a running Kubernetes cluster within seconds. Essentially, deploy-on-save.
- Much more expansive and robust integration test suites with output such that an AI agent can automatically run integration tests, read the errors and use them to iterate. And with some guidance it can write more tests based on a small set of examples. It's also been great at adding formatted messages to every test assertion to make failed tests easier to understand
- Using an editor where an AI agent has access to the language server, linter, etc. via diagnostics to automatically understand when it makes severe mistakes and fix them
A lot of this is traditional programming but sped up so that things that took hours a few years ago now take literally minutes.
RaftPeople
> make an ETL to clean up this dirty database
Can you provide concrete details?
When I do projects in this realm, it requires significant discussion with the business to understand how reality is modeled in the database and data, and that info is required before any notion of "clean up" can be defined.
handfuloflight
Even things that took days or weeks are being done in minutes now. And a few hours on top to ensure correctness.
jay_kyburz
I worry that once I've done all that I won't have time for my actual work. I also have to investigate all these new AI editors, and sign up for the API's and work out which is best, then I have to learn how to prompt properly.
I worry that messing with the AI is the equivalent of tweaking my colour schemes and choosing new fonts.
jprokay13
If you haven’t, adding in strict(er) linting rules is an easy win. Enforcing documentation for public methods is a great one imo.
The more you can do to tell the AI what you want via a “code-lint-test” loop, the better the results.
crgwbr
Honestly the same is true for human devs. As frustrating as strict linting can be for newer devs, it’s way less frustrating than having all the same issues pointed out in code review. That’s interesting because I’ve been finding that all sorts of stuff that’s good for AI is actually good for humans too, linting, fast easy to run tests, standardized code layouts, etc. Humans just have more ability to adapt to oddities at the moment, which leads to slack.
malux85
For us it’s been auto-generating tests - we focus efforts on having the LLM write 1 test, manually verifying it. Then use this as context and tell the llm to extend to all space groups and crystal systems.
So we get code coverage without all the effort, it works well for well defined problems that can be verified with test.
ChrisMarshallNY
A while back, someone here linked to this story[0].
It's a bit simplified and idealized, but is actually fairly spot-on.
I have been using AI every day. Just today, I used ChatGPT to translate an app string into 5 languages.
[0] https://www.oneusefulthing.org/p/superhuman-what-can-ai-do-i...
homebrewer
Weblate has been doing that for any number of languages (up to 200 or however many it supports) for many years, using many different sources, including public translation memory reviewed by humans.
It can be plugged into your code forge and fully automated — you push the raw strings and get a PR with every new/modified string translated into every other language supported by your application.
I use its auto-translation feature to prepare quick and dirty translations into five languages, which lets you test right away and saves time for professional translators later — as they have told me.
If anyone is reading this, save yourself the time on AI bullshit and use Weblate — it's a FOSS project.
stephen_g
Hopefully it’s better for individual strings, but I’ve heard a few native speakers of other languages (who also can speak English) complaining about websites now serving up AI-translated versions of articles by default. They are better than Google Translate of old, but apparently still bad enough that they’d much rather just be served the English original…
I guess similar to my experience with the AI voice translation YouTube has, I’ve felt similar - I’d rather listen to the original voice but with translated subtitles than a fake voice.
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eCa
> they’d much rather just be served the English original
Yes. And the sites that gives me a poorly translated text (which may or may not be translated by ai) with no means to switch to English is an immediate back-button.
Usually, and especially technical articles, poor/unreadable translations are identifiable within a few words. If the text seems like it could be interesting, I spend more time searching for the in-english button then I spent reading the text.
ChrisMarshallNY
Exactly. I wouldn't use it for bulk translations. This was literally, 4 words.
What was useful, was that I could explain exactly what the context was, in both a technical and usability context, and it understood it enough to provide appropriate translations.
UPDATE: I went and verified it. The translation was absolutely perfect. Not sure what this means for translation services, but it certainly saved me several hundred dollars, and several days, just to add one label prompt to a free app.
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ujkhsjkdhf234
Instagram was 13 employees before they were purchased by Facebook. The secret is most employees in a 1000 person company don't need to be there or cover very niche cases that your company likely wouldn't have.
WJW
Don't fall for the lottery winner bias. Some companies just strike it rich, often for reasons entirely outside their control. That doesn't mean that copying their methods will lead to the same results.
teaearlgraycold
Definitely agree small teams are the way to go. The bigger the company the more cognitive dissonance is imposed on the employees. I need to work where everyone is forced to engage with reality and those that don’t are fired.
jmward01
This may date me, but it feels like 1999 again where a small startup can disrupt an industry. Not just because of what LLMs can do in terms of delivered product, but because a small team can often turn on a problem so much faster than a big one can. I really hope that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of three to five person companies forming in basements right now ready to challenge the big players again.
nemothekid
I'm not entirely convinced this trend is because AI is letting people "manage fleets of agents".
I do think the trend of the tiny team is growing though and I think the real driver were the laysoffs and downsizings of 2023. People were skeptical if Twitter would survive Elon's massive staff cuts and technically the site has survived.
I think the era of the 2016-2020 empire building is coming to an end. Valuing a manager on their number of reports is now out of fashion and theres now no longer any reason to inflate team sizes.
simonw
I think the productivity improvement you can get just from having a decent LLM available to answer technical questions is significant enough already even without the whole Agent-based tool-in-a-loop thing.
This morning I used Claude 4 Sonnet to figure out how to build, package and ship a Docker container to GitHub Container Registry in 25 minutes start to finish. Without Claude's help I would expect that to take me a couple of hours at least... and there's a decent chance I would have got stuck on some minor point and given up in frustration.
Transcript: https://claude.ai/share/5f0e6547-a3e9-4252-98d0-56f3141c3694 - write-up: https://til.simonwillison.net/github/container-registry
homebrewer
Their boilerplate works out of the box, you don't need to change anything. I recently packaged, signed, and published an OCI container into ghcr for the first time, it took about 5 to 10 minutes without touching any LLMs thanks to the quality of their documentation.
nemothekid
I'm not denying LLMs are useful. I believe the trend was going to happen whether regardless of how useful LLMs are.
AI ended up being a convenient excuse for big tech to justify their layoffs, but Twitter already painted a story about how bloated some organizations were. Now that there is no longer any status in having 9,001 reports the pendulum has swing the other way - it's now sexy to brag about how little people you employ.
jordanb
Eh I felt that way about the internet in 2010s. Seemed like virtually any question could be answered by a google query. People were making jokes that a programmer's job mostly consisted of looking things up on stack overflow. But then google started sucking and SO turned into another expertsexchange (which was itself good in the 2000s).
So far from what I've experienced AI coding agents automate away the looking things up on SO part (mostly by violating OSS licenses on Github). But that part is only bad because the existing tools for doing that were intentionally enshitified.
tasty_freeze
> expertsexchange
My vote for the unintentionally funniest company name. I wonder if they were aware when the landed on it, or if they were so deep in the process that it was too late to change course when they realized what they had done.
gedy
> Valuing a manager on their number of reports is now out of fashion
I highly doubt human nature has changed enough to say that. It's just a down market.
TZubiri
"and technically the site has survived."
Only if you squint. If you look at the quality of the site, it has suffered tremendously.
The biggest "fuck you" are phishers buying blue checkmarks and putting the face of the CEO and owner to shill scams. But you also have just extremely trash content and clickbaits consistently getting (probably botted) likes and appearing in the top of feeds. You open a political thread and somehow there's a reply of a bear driving a bicycle as the top response.
Twitter is dead, just waiting for someone to call it.
heraldgeezer
So I can't hide in the masses watching Netflix anymore?
timewizard
> "Ushering in a new era."
It's ushering in a new era of valley bullshit. If only journalists tried to falsify their premise before blindly publishing it.
> Jack Clark whether AI’s coding ability meant “the age of the nerds” was over.
When was the "age of the nerds" exactly? What does that even mean? My interpretation is that it means "is the age of having to pay skilled programmers for quality work over?" Which explains Bloomberg's interest.
> “I think it’s actually going to be the era of the manager nerds now,” Clark replied. “I think being able to manage fleets of AI agents and orchestrate them is going to make people incredibly powerful.”
And they're all going to be people on a subscription model and locked into one particular LLM. It's not going to make anyone powerful other than the owner class. This is the worst type of lie. They don't believe any of this. They just really really hate having to pay your salary increases every year.
> AI is sometimes described as providing the capability of “infinite interns.”
More like infinite autistic toddlers. Sure. It can somehow play a perfect copy of Chopin after hearing it once. Is that really where business value comes from? Quickly ripping other people off so you can profit first?
The Bloomberg class I'm sure is so thrilled they don't even have the sense to question any of this self serving propaganda.
spacemadness
I think we’re going to have to deal with the stories of shareholders wetting themselves over more layoffs more than we’re going to see higher quality software produced. Everyone is claiming huge productivity gains but generally software quality and new products being created seem at best unchanged. Where is all this new amazing software? It’s time to stop all the talk and show something. I don’t care that your SQL query was handled for you, thats not the bigger picture, that’s just talk.
delusional
This has been an industry wide problem at silicon valley for years now. For all their talks of changing the world, what we've gotten the last decade has been taxi and hotel apps. Nothing truly revolutionizing.
geremiiah
AI helps you cook code faster, but you still need to have a good understanding of the code. Just because the writing part is done quicker doesn't mean a developer can now shoulder more responsibility. This will only lead to burn out, because the human mind can only handle so much responsibility.
crystal_revenge
> but you still need to have a good understanding of the code
I've personally found this is where AI helps the most. I'm often building pretty sophisticated models that also need to scale, and nearly all SO/Google-able resources tend to be stuck at the level of "fit/predict" thinking that so many DS people remain limited to.
Being able to ask questions about non-trivial models as you build them, really diving into the details of exactly how certain performance improvements work and what trade offs there are, and even just getting feed back on your approach is a huge improvement in my ability to really land a solid understanding of the problem and my solution before writing a line of code.
Additionally, it's incredibly easy to make a simple mistake when modeling a complex problem and getting that immediate feedback is a kind of debugging you can otherwise only get on teams with multiple highly-skill people on them (which at a certain level is a luxury reserved only for people working a large companies).
For my kind of work, vibe-coding is laughably awful, primarily because there aren't tons of examples of large ML systems for the relatively unique problem you are often tasked with. But avoiding mistakes in the initial modeling process feels like a super power. On top of that, quickly being able to refactor early prototype code into real pipelines speeds up many of the most tedious parts of the process.
hnthrow90348765
They often combine front end and back end roles (and sometimes sysadmin/devops/infrastructure) into one developer, so now I imagine they'll use AI to try and get even more. Burnout be damned, just going by their history.
satvikpendem
I read a few books the other day, The Million-dollar, One-person Business and Company of One. They both discuss how with the advances of code (to build a product with), the infrastructure to host them (with AWS so that you don't need to build data centers), and the network of people to sell to (the Internet in general, and more specifically social media, both organic and ads-based), the likelihood of running a large multi-million-dollar company all by yourself greatly increases in a way it has never done in the history of humanity before.
They were written before the advent of ChatGPT and LLMs in general, especially coding related ones, so the ceiling must be even greater now, and this is doubly true for technical founders, for LLMs aren't perfect and if your vibed code eventually breaks, you'll need to know how to fix it. But yes, in the future with agents doing work on your behalf, maybe your own work becomes less and less too.
lpa22
AWS, GCP and other cloud providers play just as large of a role in allowing for tiny teams. Used to need an ops team of 10+ people to do all the stuff on premise that AWS can do
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TaylorGood
It’s true, especially with the “vibe” movement happening in real-time on X… “you can just do things” — I am building ai app layers b2c/b2b and while I do have an ml technical co-founder, I am largely scaling this with AI from strategy, visuals to coding. For example, with Claude created a framework for my company to scale, then built an AI powered dashboard in cursor around it as the command center. At scale we don’t need a team of more than ~5 to reach 7 fig MRR.
Greg Isenberg has some of the best takes on this on X. He articulates the paradigm shift extremely well.. @gregisenberg — one example: https://x.com/gregisenberg/status/1936083456611561932?s=46)
delusional
> 26. lots of first-time founders will build faster than veterans because they are more AI fluent/grew up on vlogging.
Ahh yes, fantastic insights.
https://archive.ph/YHr9s