ThorVG: Super Lightweight Vector Graphics Engine
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·June 2, 2025chriswarbo
theknarf
The problem is mostly that there doesn't exist some kind of standard for animators where they can make their animations in their editor and then export it for web.
Lottie started out as a plugin for Adobe After Effects to try and let them export animations for use on Web. As far as I know this is the only "half-standardised" way of exporting animations between tools.
If you don't need animations from a dedicated animator then the better solution is using "a pile of JS + CSS transitions", and hopefully this is what Lottie for the web eventually "compiles" into.
segphault
An alternative to Lottie that's seriously worth considering is Rive. This is personally what I'd choose for non-trivial use cases. https://rive.app
DidYaWipe
Sadly, the Rive app is basically online-only. I was psyched to see it that wasn't yet more Web-based stuff, but after installing the app found you have to set up an "account" and be online all the time to use it.
What a disappointing PITA.
teucris
Lottie is quickly becoming the de-facto standard for UI animations, but live, long running vector animations aren’t really something I’ve seen much of - at this point, video compresses well enough that people will simply use an mp4 or webp for that use case. I know that’s not what you’re looking for but since it isn’t a common use case, I haven’t seen much support for it. Lottie is perfectly capable for this use case, provided you don’t want audio.
DidYaWipe
I had heard of Lottie, but also saw the post you're referring to; and it called out Lottie for being bloated and hideously inefficient.
Fraterkes
The godot svg implementation runs on this. Ive been working on a little font editing tool for a week, but apparently the current build of Thor has a bug with rendering text…
iFire
Godot Engine maintainer here: What version and do you have a minimal recreation project for thorvg or godot engine? Hope we didn’t cause you too much trouble. Post a github issue and we can look into it. Thanks for using Godot Engine / Thorvg.
Fraterkes
I’ll write up an issue. I hope my comment didn’t come of wrong: I’ve found Godot to mostly be very stable and really well maintained. I quickly found a work-around. Thx for all the work you do!
hermet
You might wanna report this to the ThorVG community. (https://github.com/thorvg/thorvg/issues) Maintainers will address it as soon as possible.
elcritch
I discovered ThorVG recently and started experimenting with using it in Nim for a GUI backend: https://forum.nim-lang.org/t/13072
jazzcomputer
I'm keen to make a vector game and want something fast. I was excited to read about this thing but when I saw Lottie it made me think that the animations would be quite closed data-wise, whereas the game design I have in mind has dynamic animation that would happen on the fly, or be a mixture of preset animations with elements that react dynamically.
I'm an almost complete code novice so I was wondering if anyone can tell me if this solution would allow animations that are constructed in code rather than just play start to finish etc as a preset thing that can't be easily augmented.
mindbrix
The WebGL antialiasing quality looks poor compared to the software renderer. It could be using MSAA instead of full analytical AA.
I had to use Chrome to test it, as the viewer doesn't play on Safari.
MintPaw
Does it have antialiased masks? That's what's always prevented me from leaving Skia.
hermet
it has.
bschwindHN
What's the typical modern approach to generating antialiased masks these days?
DidYaWipe
I thought this was interesting: "the implementation maintains a lightweight profile, rendering it particularly advantageous for embedded systems."
But then it goes on to say that "interactivity" is unsupported. Embedded UI would be the first thing I'd be interested in using this for; wouldn't that be hampered by the lack of support for interactivity? I don't know what SVG "interactivity" consists of.
hermet
Current ThorVG itself is more like of a graphics engine; interactivity is typically handled at the toolkit level feature.
jitl
Is this in the same space as Skia? I wonder what the differences in code size and performance are.
elcritch
I’m not sure the performance comparisons, but ThorVG gave me a binary library of 100-200 kb. Also ThorVG doesn’t have any external build requirements.
paufernandez
As far as I see, Skia is the full-blown thing, whereas ThorVG goes the other route, being as small and simple as possible.
rendaw
What doesn't Thor have though? Lottie already seems like a not-small thing, plus SVG
ratatoskrt
Interested in this as well. I'm currenlty using Skia (through skia-safe) but I'd be quite open to try another renderer if there are performance improvments.
Riskofrain
The next step for thorvg for me would be to prove itself as useful at runtime as rive. I would really like to see a real implementation of this in game engines like Godot Engine. Just like there’s a Rive renderer for Defold. But I mean actually being able to render vectors, not that thing where you’re forced to rasterize a sprite sheet, lol.
Fraterkes
I’ve been using it to render SVGs at runtime inside Godot, and while I haven’t really stress-tested it Ive found it to be plenty fast on my sleepy thinkpad
Riskofrain
What you're doing is rasterizing an SVG at runtime — basically turning it into a PNG, and when there's a scale change you're rasterizing the SVG again at a new resolution.This is useful for displaying statics svgs and things like interfaces.But when we think about actually using animated vector art, characters, objects, this becomes largely useless. since it would require multiple frames and a huge spritesheet would need to be rasterized for that — increasing memory usage and causing many other issues.
I would like a way to truly draw the vectors and actually use real SVGs — especially via Thor/Lottie.
0x0203
Has anyone recently compared thorvg to blend2D? There's a project I want to use vector drawing for and at one point I was leaning more towards blend2d based on performance and multi threaded capabilities, but ThorVG has had a lot of active development since I last looked. Curious if they've made any significant improvements in the last couple years.
wiradikusuma
I can't find it on the website. What does it compare to? And what's the memory/disk footprint, let's say, for using it in a Flutter project?
hermet
So far, there is only one announced performance comparison. 'rlottie' is used for animation stickers in the Telegram app.
https://lottiefiles.com/blog/working-with-lottie-animations/...
__grob
Using Devin's DeepWiki for the docs page gives me an uneasy feeling. I would rather have real docs.
This is the second time I've seen Lottie mentioned this week, without hearing about it before.
Maybe it's targeting a different use-case, but these things (at least on the Web) appear to be more-heavyweight and less-capable than the things people were doing 20 years ago with Macromedia/Adobe Flash, e.g. compare the animated-GIF-like examples linked from TFA ( https://thorvg-perf-test.vercel.app/ ) to the animations and games found on sites like Newgrounds. Last I checked, the latter make heavy use of emulators like Ruffle, or (based on loading screens) 3D game engines like Unity etc.
As someone who's been out of that scene for a long time: what's the overall state of things, if I want to make long, complex, 2D vector animations? (i.e. not using a 3D engine; and not rendering to video). SVG seems pretty established; but for animation, how capable is Lottie? Does anyone still use SMIL (outside of DVD menus)? Am I better off "rendering" to a big pile of JS + CSS transitions?