Skip to content(if available)orjump to list(if available)

You Need Customers to Succeed in Small Business

JohnFen

One of the best pieces of business advice I ever got was that a small business has advantages that a large business can only dream of. Ignoring those advantages and instead trying to act like a large business acts means that you're not playing to your strength and are instead playing a game that the large business is likely to crush you at.

If you're a small business, lean into being that and you'll have a much larger chance of success. Don't try to pretend that you're something you're not.

TheNewsIsHere

That is a challenging balancing act, although worth it to work on mastering.

Technology is a particularly difficult place to balance those things.

When we opened our small business we took the marketing approach that (not the exact pitch) we “bring the best of enterprise” with the “agility” of not being an enterprise.

We don’t market like that anymore because it’s not a good fit for small business customers, but we still have a focus on that idea internally.

Balancing that with the realities of a small business are hard. For example, we have internally managed 3-2-1 backups of almost all customer data, replicated geographically, and persisted with credentials that can’t also mutate backup data. That is somewhat time consuming to manage on the front end.

I’ve written on HN before about how we suffered with QuickBooks and eventually moved to an ERP. Most businesses our size would scoff at that, but some things are worth the expense to integrate various processes into a single pipeline.

Part of the problem for SMBs is that you can’t scale your humans like you can scale your servers. So for every hour I spent connecting the dots, sending DocuSigns, and fighting with QB was an hour I couldn’t spend on product/service/customer. Sometimes you can buy your way out of that. Sometimes you can engineer your way out of that. Figuring out which is which is one of the hardest parts.

iambateman

When you think about those advantages, which ones seem most generalized to all small businesses?

(Of course many advantages will be unique to a particular industry or business)

pier25

what are those advantages?

dghlsakjg

Not GP, but flexibility and adaptibility is huge, as are personal relationships.

JohnFen

Yes, exactly those.

Plus the ability to do extreme pivots on a dime. Also, you tend to get treated a little better generally as you aren't an impersonal corporation. You're a businessperson, with the emphasis on "person".

voxl

That was a long-winded way of not saying anything of substance.

Tautologically all business (big versus big included) are fundamentally different, and hence have different strengths and weaknesses.

Hence, it is not a priori true that the category of small businesses has unique advantage (as a category) over big businesses. You of course have done nothing to argue that they do.

yamazakiwi

It's a good point of comparison and common trap businesses make. They are pointing out that exclusively acting like big corp as a small business could lead to missed opportunities.

You basically dismissed someone for making a fair comparison because they didn't give you a concrete example like: A local coffee shop remembering customer names vs a large chain with a impersonal script.

Giving an example in this way is not a requirement, you can use your brain as well. Unless you just didn't read what they typed thoroughly enough and mistook their point.

cogman10

This is true, but really the original comment was pretty abstract. It could literally be boiled down to "Small businesses and big businesses are different. Play to your strengths".

brokencode

You’ve also not added anything to the conversation. Instead of a snarky response, you could have asked for some examples of how small businesses have used their small size as an advantage. This may have led to insightful and constructive responses.

sorcerer-mar

That was a long-winded way of saying “I didn’t read your comment very closely at all.”

replwoacause

This exchange is headed for peak HN territory

HeyLaughingBoy

"... and I'm in a mood to be unnecessarily argumentative."

vjvjvjvjghv

One example:

- A small business can live very well on delivering a product that makes a few hundred thousand dollar profit. Large companies can't be bothered with such small numbers so they don't even try.

throwaway81523

> You Need Customers to Succeed in Small Business

I wonder if there is a way to automate them with AI.

bjhess

I mean, the biggest consumer of AI writing is probably AI scrapers…

ausbah

scariest stat was .1% of companies generate >60% of US GDP? seems false but?

mediaman

That doesn't mean anything. You can accomplish that by having a very large denominator, which is possible if creating a business is trivially easy.

In the US, it's generally very easy to create a "business," which doesn't even need to be a separate legal entity.

I'd guess that a substantial portion of the companies in the denominator have no employees and are just entities for owning a piece of property, or for someone's occasional graphic design work, or whatever. They are legally businesses, but not businesses in the way that we commonly think, such as a local auto shop or retail store.

conductr

Reverse also true, many of the big businesses have hundreds of legal entities but only are counted as a single big business

I once worked for a F100 sized healthcare firm that had a separate LLC for each physician it 'employed'. Quotes because the LLC invoiced the parent and then paid the physician, so they were technically an employee of the LLC, but it shielded the company from certain risks and had some tax reasoning and various other mumbo-jumbos

runako

> You can accomplish that by having a very large denominator, which is possible if creating a business is trivially easy.

This is correct, but misleading. In the US, something like > 60% of GDP come from just the US companies in the Fortune 500.

Ekaros

Quick google gives ballpark figure of 30 million businesses. Companies are something like 17-19 million, 0.1% would be simple divide by 1000.

So we get 30 000 or 17 000. Which is entire SnP 500. And probably even every publicly traded company.

dtech

Your forgot government, which is about one third in the US

HeyLaughingBoy

Most US companies are actually tiny, with pretty low revenues. Per Copilot, 82% of businesses have no employees and generate an average annual revenue of just $44,000.

For every US Steel, there's a thousand potters throwing vases in their backyard shed.

dingnuts

Copilot is not a source. Find where it got that number or don't post. Seriously. It's actively harmful to cite a language model. Would you cite Autocorrect?

HeyLaughingBoy

It's a tool like any other. Get used to it.

Analemma_

This article makes some good points but it is really fudging some facts about the American economy:

> Small businesses don’t get the spotlight, but they are the engine of the economy. To wit, in the United States: 99.9% of businesses are small, nearly half the private workforce is employed by small businesses, they generate over 43% of the country’s GDP

This is lying with statistics.

- "Number of businesses" and "percentage of all businesses" is a silly metric, because there are zillions of one-person LLCs for everything from hosting a blog to renting out a spare room in your house, which are not "businesses" in any real sense.

- Every franchise location (i.e. every fast food restaurant, gas station, etc.) in America counts as a separate "small business" and its employees are "employed by small business", even though franchisees have little independence or control, and for all practical purposes are just extensions of the megacorp they are franchising from. Franchising is mostly a way for megacorps to offload the risk of setting up new locations onto the taxpayer, via letting franchisees qualify for government-subsidized "small business" loans.

Do not uncritically repeat facts from sources like the "U.S. Small Business Administration", which for all intents and purposes is a lobbying group for U.S. Large Businesses.

HeyLaughingBoy

> not "businesses" in any real sense.

They provide a service and receive revenue in exchange. How else would you define a "real business?"

tlogan

Before dismissing small businesses as just a tiny part of the economy, try this: count how many times you interact with them in a single day. They might make up a small percentage of GDP, but they are a huge part of our everyday lives - and probably critical part.

Here’s my quick list from just today:

- Dropped my kid off at daycare — small business

- Picked up a burrito from Express Burrito on Taraval — small business

- Ordered coffee — small business

- Called a handyman to fix the lights — small business

- Called my dentist — small business

- Wrote a rent check to my landlord — small business

And yeah, I’ll probably spend a good chunk of money at Costco this weekend… but that doesn’t change how deeply woven small businesses are into my daily life.

paulpauper

Agree

Small businesses don’t get the spotlight, but they are the engine of the economy. To wit, in the United States: 99.9% of businesses are small, nearly half the private workforce is employed by small businesses, they generate over 43% of the country’s GDP

Hardly. Look at the concentration of the nasdaq 100--it's all huge companies. Same for the DJIA. Big companies play an increasingly important role.

cogman10

> Look at the concentration of the nasdaq 100--it's all huge companies. Same for the DJIA.

The nasdaq 100 is the largest companies that exist. That's why that index exists. Ditto for S&P-500.

The DJIA is also exclusively large capital businesses.

Pretty much any index out there is going to be primarily composed of the largest players in the market, that's just how these things work.

paulpauper

But relative to the other parts of the economy and GDP. In 1980s the biggest of companies were not so dominant relative to today.

toast0

Of course the nasdaq 100; the 100 largest (qualifying) companies on nasdaq is all huge companies. If there's hundreds of thousands of companies, and you pick 100 of the largest, they'll be huge. Very few small businesses will be listed on Nasdaq at all.

The stat says 43% of gdp is from small business and 50% of non-government workers, too. That means they're important. Of course, the large businesses are the other half of the economy with just 0.1% of the number of businesses.

I think the point is, if you ignore small or big business, you're ignoring half the economy.

lovich

> Big companies play an increasingly important role.

I’m sorry that line sticks out to me. Are you implying that big businesses already don’t dominate the economy?

paulpauper

I don't know how you arrive at that implication. The word dominant is pretty obvious what it means.

innocentoldguy

The inability to contact a human who can make meaningful decisions is one of the reasons why I quit using companies like Google and Amazon. They’re too big to care, but small companies aren’t.

EDIT: I have hooves for hands and accidentally submitted before finishing my thought.

paulpauper

You Need Customers to Succeed in Small Business

Unless you're AI, social network, or one of many other examples of start-ups having a large valuation despite not having obvious customers.

yamazakiwi

I guess we would define these companies differently right?

They're definitely classified as small businesses but they're on a different track. That being said I think both "tracks" could learn from each other despite having different problems. They can even share goals.

You might not need customers initially if you raise 200 Million for your AI startup, but eventually you will, unless you maintain escape velocity or sell. I think it's more likely that chasing word-of-mouth marketing is an excellent goal for all companies and thinking you're above that will increase your risk.

dingnuts

startups by definition aren't really small businesses. they might not have a lot of employees, but they don't stay that way. a small business is successful and sustainable at that size and is structured to be so. a startup either becomes a large business or ceases to exist entirely.

yamazakiwi

I think they would agree with you and were mostly drawing attention to this distinction, be it cheekily.

You're definitely right about the difference and thank you for mentioning it.

I do think that the point of the article can still be applied to both types of business. The point I take from the article is more about not missing out on your identity or thinking your britches are too big, which could be applied to startups as well.