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Pope Francis has died

Pope Francis has died

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·April 21, 2025

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borlox

J D, what did you do!?

penguin_booze

He asked the pope whether he said 'thank you' even once since Jan 2025.

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foldr

I can’t help but feel that JD Vance has Liz Trussed the Pope.

Huwell

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xtoilette

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perfider

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october8140

made a new account just for this comment?

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IlikeKitties

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nabla9

"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion." – Steven Weinberg, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Weinberg

Catholicism is full of good people. Fortunately Catholicism has mostly lost it's grip of people in the developed world, but it still wrecks havoc in the Africa. The tried to correct the course a little bit, but not really. He should have spoken ex cathedra to make waves, but he never did so. Even the most conservative Catholics only believe what they already believe and it would have just created schism. "Catholic God" speaks only to protect the institution, not the people.

IlikeKitties

I've become quite pragmatic about all this stuff. Sure, the Catholic Church will act first and foremost for it's own survival but that still leaves open the possibility of reform towards something better for humanity as a whole and as an organization they can still make the world a better place.

Wether they do make the world better all things considered is questionable but given that the church will continue to exist regardless of what I believe, it's quite obvious to me that it's better for all of us if they reform themselves towards something more humanitarian.

nabla9

> an organization they can still make the world a better place.

Not in Africa. They are holding things back.

In the West they don't matter and have no real moral authority to change behavior. People only seek support from the church for things they already believe and ignore it if it does not agree with them.

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leosanchez

Must have thanked him at least once.

richardatlarge

Poison travels in many forms

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