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A 6-Hour Time-Stretched Version of Brian Eno's Music for Airports

okeuro49

"Sitting among the gleaming steel fixtures and softly glowing concrete lines of the modernist Cologne Bonn Airport on a sunny Sunday morning in late 1977, en route to his homebase, the perennially nervous flier recoiled once again at the canned pop pleasantries mindlessly piped into such an inspired space. The music was not only an afterthought but also insulting to the idea that you would soon climb into a sleek metal tube and be propelled by engines through the sky at 40,000 feet. “I started thinking, ‘What should we be hearing here?’ I thought most of all you wanted music that didn’t try to pretend you weren’t going to die on the plane, ” Eno, laughing but serious."

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/brian-eno-ambient-1-mus...

soulofmischief

It's a ritual of mine to play Eno's Discreet Music during takeoff. Something about it is just so enveloping, introspective and morose and no other piece of music hits me that way. So I figure, if I'm going to die, I want it to be to Discreet Music.

bloopernova

Thank you for sharing! I'm currently playing Discreet Music while there's lightning and thunder outside. My dog shivers with fright during bad storms and this is helping me to calm down, which in turn helps my pup.

soulofmischief

What a beautiful scene. Something about Discreet Music just says.... things aren't perfect, sometimes they're scary or confusing, but it's going to be okay. It's like the repeating motif acts as a constant reassurance, but from many different perspectives over the length of the record. Hope the pup's doing okay now :)

sebmellen

Mine is Burning Airlines Give You So Much More, also by Eno.

shlant

> It's a ritual of mine to play Eno's Discreet Music during takeoff.

Mine is Giegling Mix 07. Less ambient and more 4/4 + breakbeat but beautifully emotive. Even better during sunset

qhiliq

Thanks for this. I'd heard a few of the tracks on this before but the mix was a great way to start the morning.

latentcall

This is mine too. This Is Not is one of if not the best mixes I’ve heard in my entire life. This and Live at Planet Uterus.

AdamN

Perhaps the uplifting responsorial to this would be "An Ending (Ascent)" from his Apollo soundtrack.

pimeys

I never thought to see a link to a Pitchfork Sunday review on HN. I've been reading them with my morning coffee every Sunday for years.

jquaint

Great song.

For anyone curious how to produce something that sounds like this, paulstretch is the way to do it. https://sonosaurus.com/paulxstretch/

My personal favorite use of this: https://youtu.be/XiKWfcy-Z70?si=iJTP0XTEAAObI_rU

jchw

And if you happen to already have a copy of Audacity, it has an implementation of paulstretch built-in. (Certainly not as nice looking as that dedicated tool, though.)

jedimastert

Paulstretch is such an utterly genius algorithm. Ridiculously simple solution to a difficult problem but it gets you amazing results

isoprophlex

This is just excellent, it works a lot better than I thought it would. You can really drown in the song, whoa.

    aaaallllll
    myyyyyy
    paaaasssstt
    aaaaaaandd
    fuuuttuurrreeesss
I'll add that there's a lot of extremely timestretched tracks from Aphex Twin's Selected Ambient Works II on youtube as well. They all sound glorious, too

corry

Great share, thank you! Scratches the itch of "I'd love to turn some of my beats into ambient soundscapes but don't want to spend the time".

Ylpertnodi

Less distructive, but also -the [vst3] plugin 'valhalla supermassive'.

pbmahol

The paulxstretch completely obliterates phase component of audio input. Its not really way to do it if you want real output.

jedimastert

Define "real" in this instance? We're talking about audio manipulation, fiddling with time and frequency domain. Something's going to have to give

pbmahol

There are better, pro solutions, but if you want random phase what that algorithm actually does I'm not going to judge you.

jm547ster

Phase is relative, you are trying to sound intelligent

colanderman

Of a single sinusoidal component, sure, this is true. But phase differences between sonic features are absolutely detectable.

The effect is most noticeable on raw synthesized tones: sawtooth, square wave, etc. These tones contain sonic energy concentrated at discontinuities in the waveforms. The ear can hear this, as a "buzzing sound".

Run these tones through Paulstretch (even with 0 stretch), and the sonic energy is distributed throughout the wavecycle. These tones retain their spectral character, but noticeably lose the buzzing character.

I've uploaded a demo here: https://chris.pacejo.net/temp/phase.wav It is a 55 Hz sawtooth tone, alternating every 2.5 s between the raw tone, and the tone fed through Paulstretch with no stretching.

There was even a paper written on this. Laitinen, Disch & Pulkki, "Sensitivity of Human Hearing to Changes in Phase Spectrum". [1]

Paulstretch muddies up percussive transients (like hi hat strikes) as well.

Anyway it's the reason things like gammatone filters exist for analyzing audio. They reveal phase correlations in the same way the ear is able to. Windowed Fourier transforms (used by e.g. Paulstretch and Audacity for various purposes) obfuscate these relationships.

Aside: please try to avoid snarky armchair dismissals on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "you are trying to sound intelligent" does not advance discourse.

[1] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ville-Pulkki/publicatio...

wiml

As long as you match the phase of the positive and negative frequency components you'll get real output

viraptor

Doesn't phase only matter if you want to mix it with some other sound? If you're editing the final version you're going to be playing, what's the point in preserving phase?

colanderman

The human ear is sensitive to phase correlation. It stems from the physiological fact that our ear is effectively a multiresolution filter. So with an overtone-rich tone, the time constant with which we perceive the uppermost harmonics is significantly less than the period of the base harmonic. So if the sonic energy of those harmonics is correlated into small "packets", we hear that as a "buzzing". This is true of raw synthesis waveforms: sawtooth, square, etc. It's also true of any short transients: clapping, hi-hats, etc.

If you "mess with" the phase information of the harmonics relative to the base harmonic, this is the same thing as changing where the sonic energy of those harmonics falls in the wavecycle. So notably, in the cases listed above where the sonic energy falls into small "packets", if you randomize that phase information relative to a much lower tone (as Paulstretch does), you now have spread that energy throughout the full wavecycle. This eliminates any sensation of "buzzing" or "clicking" and makes transients "mushy".

pbmahol

You can not just preserve original phase when doing time stretching, there are "smarter" algorithms that try to derive "correct" phase, while the paulxstretch just make it random values, maybe for extreme stretching values it doesn't matter for ambient music but for general music and sounds its not that trivial.

keyle

Mind blown. Thanks!

barrenko

Ah yes, pop some ketamine, turn this one, and never return.

morsch

I'm rather fond of The Black Dog's Music for Real Airports, myself. https://ra.co/reviews/7404

LeoPanthera

The Black Dog's "Music for Photographers" is probably my favorite album of all time. Yet it's almost completely unknown. Everyone should give it a listen.

morsch

I like that one a lot, too. But it's not the kind of music a lot of people like. You'll get mostly blank or concerned looks if you make everyone listen to it.

mrmagpie

The High-Rise Living 78-86 mix with Regis is stunning too

madmoose

Music for Real Airports is one of the albums I put on to block out the world when I’m trying to get work done.

Mistletoe

Thanks for introducing me to this. This is the kind of music I like and had never heard of it.

tomduncalf

Ah yeah love this album!

matteason

If anyone would like to play with something more interactive, I'm testing out some new effects on Ambiphone, my ambient soundscape web app. The test version is at https://test.ambiph.one

There's a basic playback speed control now (basic in as much as it doesn't preserve pitch) plus things like reverb and delay effects

Here's some slowed-down ambient music: https://test.ambiph.one/?m=1-Slow+Realisation-ap50a25c60

And a cat purring at 50% speed makes a pretty convincing lion: https://test.ambiph.one/?m=1-Lion's+Den-aa8a34c60e37f100ac50...

(Audio may be a little glitchy on Android Chrome if you have lots of sounds playing - I'm debugging that at the moment)

aloifran

Hey thank you for sharing your project! I am really enjoying using it while working at home. A quick observation, the link to share a mix for the birthday is not clickable cause the save menu is clicked instead (yes I'm a QA Engineer). Great feature to save mixes!

dmazin

When the AI songs started happening, I've been hoping someone would make a very long version of 1/1 from Music for Airports. This is not that. I don't mean stretched out. I just mean that it gets interpolated outwards after the original composition ends.

Does anyone know what can make that?

cypherpunks01

I linked this page in another comment:

Deconstructing Brian Eno's Ambient 1: Music for Airports https://reverbmachine.com/blog/deconstructing-brian-eno-musi...

It's not exactly for 1/1, but scroll down to "Deconstructing 2/1" or "Deconstructing 1/2", then down to the music staves section - Hit "Start All", then roll the dice, and it will randomize the loop times! With a little javascript hacking I'm sure you can add more control over the loops and such.

He has some samples for 1/1 tracks too, those could be looped or fed to some AI music software I'm sure to come up with some interpolated result too.

LeoPanthera

The Black Dog have a lovely Patreon where they personally answer comments. Have you considered asking them?

omnimus

I would say only Brian Eno can make one.

Maybe he made some other music thats continuation.

kodomomo

Try https://play.generative.fm/browse. The endless aisatsana generator is pretty good, I'm sure there's an option that's similar to 1/1.

ocal5

In this field : Windows 95 startup sound, from Brian Eno as well : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnoX3E2WFcc

dep_b

It has that calming quality, and I would hear it frequently as I would still shut down my computer after every session.

curiousigor

It seems like the website is region locked? I haven't seen an 405 error mentioning a specific country yet though, it seemed interesting. https://imgur.com/a/AiY9xMJ

jvdvegt

No problem here from The Netherlands... I wonder what's so specific about Slovenia.

But the site is mostly a link to this 6 hour track: https://youtu.be/ZWUlLHv7-64

ddxv

For anyone else perusing the comments for more ambient music, I recommend Stars of the Lkd for anyone looking for similar feels.

https://youtu.be/c4E6RO4muLU?si=6QbUatQXm0zzWy0N

reverendsteveii

also here to mention stars of the lid. I just found out about them and they're great. on the same youtube binge I also learned about Jefre Cantu-Ledesma and have become fascinated with their work as well

https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCeYcG8gnFjGA5lUShHsz3yQ

tquinn

Semi-related in the same vein of background ambient music:

For fans of the film Heat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHP4qbgAN6s One of my absolute favorites to work to.

cypherpunks01

Deconstructing Brian Eno's Ambient 1: Music for Airports:

https://reverbmachine.com/blog/deconstructing-brian-eno-musi...

It's a must-read! It has analysis of all Eno's tape loops and an interactive note randomizer. Mentioned in the article's related content but it's worth an extra shout.

Fun to play around with for anyone who likes the album or ambient music in general.

Lutzb

Perfect opportunity to point out that there is a 23x slowed down version of Brian Enos Windows 95 startup sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNIfbdi41ho

bevan

Gary Hustwit (Helvetica, Objectified) just made a worthwhile documentary about Eno: https://www.hustwit.com/eno

It's only streaming right now and each streamed version is unique, riffing off of Eno's "generative" music.