gnabgib
Small discussion (25 points, 7 days ago, 17 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43316590
jmclnx
Well I guess what is more important to these places, money from the federal gov. Free and Open exchange of Ideas, not in US Univ. and Colleges these days.
bhouston
Free speech in the USA seems to have a Palestine exception.
The number of logical fallacies in this set of events is pretty strange. First they conflate anti-semitism with protesting what many credible people have called a genocide. Then the US government is stripping $400M in funding to pressure the university to do these things. Lastly, these students are not charged with crimes, so they are punishing them for non-criminal actions.
Weird times.
slt2021
its not the First Amendment, it is Israel First Amendment (according to the current executive branch)
NoNotTheDuo
Current? This kind of stuff was happening under Biden as well: https://palestinelegal.org/news/2024/4/25/columbia-students-...
clipsy
"Free speech" to the American right wing has never meant (and will never mean) anything beyond "I'm free to say whatever I want, and you're also free to say whatever I want." They pretend to oppose censorship when they're out of power because it's effective at garnering the support of credulous dimwits.
golemiprague
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What does it mean to "temporarily revoke" a diploma? It seems like you either earned it or you didn't. Measures like expulsion and suspension might interrupt ongoing bad behavior with the consequence that people can't then finish earning their diplomas—but once they're earned, how does it make sense that they're retrospectively un-earned?
It feels like such a mobster mentality—the diploma doesn't mean anything with respect to objective achievements, it's just a mark of someone powerful's favor, and you'd better stay in their favor...