It’s still worth blogging in the age of AI
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·February 25, 2025aquova
mnky9800n
Yes. I don’t really understand the “you will be replaced” mentality. I do things because I like doing them not because they have some optimum economic value.
Like read the ad copy of old apple or HP or xerox and see how they wanted to help make tools that help you think. Today everyone wants to make tools that help you make money. I just don’t see why my life needs to be optimised for making money compared to engaging in interesting ideas and creating peace and happiness in the space around me.
larodi
I love designing posters for thé love of it. AI helps me learn new shortcuts or suggest tools, helps me delete this or that, but essentially - my appreciation for the process comes from actually moving things around myself and having a say myself.
With generative art/writing, well honestly - the author is very very limited in what he can command the NN do and particularly if the author has a string vision.
Same for music - I wouldn’t let AI arrange my Renoise tracks, I’d love to do it myself. Is love to create the VCV patches by carefully tuning each knob. And particularly when I actually know/imagine/envision how it should sound.
It takes understanding of underlying tech and love for the work. Love - very important.
For people lacking vision and creativity, those in a hurry, those under pressure to do shitjobs they hate - it idées may be better to use AI. But not for the real artist.
mnky9800n
What are your favorite design posters from "the good old days"? haha. Can you share the posters you have made? It's cool that you make such things.
Imustaskforhelp
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I just don’t see why my life needs to be optimised for making money compared to engaging in interesting ideas and creating peace and happiness in the space around me.
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This hit me hard! Thanks a lot mate for this comment.
alabastervlog
External validation and being useful to others matter. A world of everyone playing violin in a closet for nobody is a dystopia.
LiquidSky
This view that you can't just do an activity for your own joy, you have to do it for the approval of other, is the actual dystopia. I wonder how old you are because this seems very much like the attitude of someone who was born in the age of social media.
beauzero
My niece would disagree. She loves playing violin just for the playing of it.
mnky9800n
You cannot share happiness with others if you don’t create it for yourself first as you will have no happiness to give away.
posterman
only inasmuch as a world where everyone playing violin in the streets is a dystopia, too...
j45
Seeing value only measured by utility seems to sidestep the reality that not everything that counts, can be counted.
In startup land, the world of innovation accounting for organizations is one attempt to better understand that.
entropi
> I just don’t see why my life needs to be optimised for making money compared to engaging in interesting ideas and creating peace and happiness in the space around me.
I feel the same way. But I think this is kind of forced on us nowadays. For example, I might want to write a blog post to share my ideas/work/whatever. But it will be used to make money. It will be used to feed my competition. Maybe not necessarily my content, or not necessarily directly compete with me. But as a class of people, by creating more content we are feeding our competition and some minority will make a lot of money out of it.
Maybe I was not doing it for the money in the first place, maybe it was being read by 5 humans in total anyways. But still, I have no escape and I personally find the whole idea disgusting. I will take no part in it.
mnky9800n
Yes I agree. But also I just don’t know what to do about it. I mostly try to make things more private. Like I write a newsletter about my thoughts on ai/ml, physics, etc that’s only for my research institute sent through the email listserv. Maybe nobody reads it but also nobody monetises it. And I get an outlet that is hopefully useful to others I’m directly connected to.
anal_reactor
> I just don’t see why my life needs to be optimised for making money compared to engaging in interesting ideas and creating peace and happiness in the space around me.
This means your are rich, and you can afford the luxury of such mindset.
wiether
> This means your are rich, and you can afford the luxury of such mindset.
The people I know that are focusing on "engaging in interesting ideas and creating peace and happiness in the space around [them]" are the "poorest" I know of.
They chose to have a part-time job (if they have one at all), they chose to live a simple life (from Western standards)... to do what they care about.
The only luxury they have is living in a society with enough solidarity to allow them to live this way.
BizarreByte
I'm not rich and I have this mindset. I make far less than most people on HN do, less than industry average too, but I've been able to live an okay life regardless.
The goal was never to get rich as I realized early on that was improbable and I focused on other things.
bregma
I have met a lot of people who live in poverty. They're not all that interested in making money (although they are not necessarily averse but it's definitely never an all-consuming priority). By and large their focus is on human connection.
It's not the default human condition to be consumed by greed any more than it is any of the other deadly sins.
dingnuts
Exactly. People are trying to make ends meet. They aren't trying to optimize for money making for fun We're trying to eat today, and maybe someday retire, if we're lucky. It's harder than it used to be, so people are looking for strategies.
It's not some morally superior attitude to "engage in peace and happiness" blah blah you're just rich congrats
herval
I might be the kind of person that requires external validation, what I noticed is I simply stopped writing online, for the most part. It just feels like writing/tweeting/etc into a cacophony, makes me slightly uncomfortable adding to the noise and discouraged that nobody (no human at least) will read anyway. So I just write what would be blog posts on Notes app and don’t post anywhere…
Swizec
I read this comment.
That said I have also found myself writing less, but not because I think it’s less worthwhile than it was 15 years ago when I started, it’s that the internet feels like it has become less deep. Probably not because the internet has changed but because I’ve learned more so fewer and fewer things tickle that curious part of the brain and feel worth writing about. The things that do feel worth it are so off the deep end that there are fewer and fewer readers who are interested.
strken
Writing on the internet sometimes feels like being a blob of uranium in a reactor where control rods are slowly being inserted at the same time as the reaction chamber is being expanded. There is factually more fissile material out there, but it's no longer as close to critical mass.
throwaway2037
I am not a blogger, but was very active on StackOverflow for years -- mostly asking, but sometimes answering. I used it to learn and to create digital footprints, similar to blogging. I blame most of my slow down on experience and age (same-same, but different). After a while, my questions for SO became so hard, they would only get a few views and no answers. I'm no genius, but with enough experience, you will stumble across some never-before-answered problem.
fhd2
So you actually enjoy writing, without getting anything in return. Sounds like it'd be the good kind of blog (as opposed to content marketing, personal branding and all that hustling). If you were to publish it, maybe one person will come across it and get something out of it.
There's this Spider Man quote I like: "If you help someone, you help everyone". I think it's not comic canon but just from the PS4 game. So getting meta here, that random line a writer for a random video game came up with had a big impression on me.
It's a typical programmer fallacy to avoid redundancy. If somebody else already wrote about something, why would you? Yet in communication, redundancy and repetition is actually quite key. We need to hear ideas multiple times and from different angles before they land.
simianparrot
I used to blog and write a lot and I never cared how many — if any — read it. Purposefully avoided analytics tools etc.
But after the last few years with the proliferation of “AI” tools and the increasing amount of noise on every level I just don’t like feeding the “grey goo of information”. It might be unreasonable but I’ve felt it for over a year now and it’s not going away. Instead I value interpersonal conversations a lot more again. I hang out in discord voice chats with a few people at a time. Text communication feels soulless and low signal to noise in general now.
Anecdotally almost every text chat server I’m on has less active users writing than I’ve ever seen in 25+ years of using the internet. Might be a coincidence but I wouldn’t be surprised if people’s behaviours are changing. Just like knowing you’re being watched changes your behaviour, knowing text content may or may not be fed to or generated by a slop machine algorithm probably changes how you view text as well.
gerdesj
"I just don’t like feeding the “grey goo of information”"
If your voice isn't spoken then it will go unheard. It is of course up to you but I think that blogs and websites run by real people are invaluable (and I'd love to see what AI makes of that word!)
This is the bigger issue at the moment: https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/1008897/bbe01d846ec5e9cd/
xpe
15 years ago felt very different to me as well. Many of us lucked into the conditions that made many online interactions feel worthwhile. The loss of these settings sucks.* But such a creative environment is still attainable and can be found in pockets.
* To be fair, nostalgia around many off these communities can be misleading. Many were never designed to sustain realistic growth nor the inevitable pressures to monetize them. They were naive and ignored human nature, a product of the mentality of their creators or perhaps their participants or both. We know better now. Community building is tricky and worthwhile, rarely a matter of formulaic scaling.
TheSpiceIsLife
All of my best writing has largely gone unwritten.
dan00
It's the few highlights in the cacophony called life, that makes life worth living.
grumpy_coder
Me too. At least i can be wrong in private that way.
aprilthird2021
I have actually cut back on blogging (partly) because I don't want my hard work to be slurped up and regurgitated by an AI. I write for other people. Not for AI
HKH2
People had been stealing ideas long before computers started doing it.
chefandy
> People had been stealing ideas long before computers started doing it.
So it’s not ok to be bothered by it because it’s been happening a long time?
6510
I consider it a honor if people are inspired by my ideas or thoughts.
This could in theory still apply to machines but I would have to think about it first. It might require a different format.
aprilthird2021
I welcome people to steal my ideas. I don't welcome the AI companies. They claim they want me to lose my job. Most people online don't want that for me.
rchaud
Yeah, and the movie and music industries moved fast to have laws passed protecting their "ideas". The average person has no equivalent protection nor the means to pursue legal action. So opting out of the charade is a perfectly legitimate move.
protocolture
I am a person (allegedly) and I would benefit from AI regurgitating your content.
Much the same way I benefit from Google indexing the internet, and summarizing news articles.
blululu
Reading and writing are both intimate activities. The reader holds the writer's thoughts in mind, and the writer knows this and acts accordingly. Personally, I don't particularly enjoy reading material that was made by an LLM. The fact that so little effort was applied suggests that there is not much reason for this to exist beyond a chance to serve a few quick links. Since the llm is also running this as a business, I would also point out the social connection between reader and writer does come with some expectation of a reward. Whether it is to be paid in cash or respect is beside the point. People often expect some reward for their efforts and they are not wrong to want that. People are often uncomfortable to put it so bluntly because that would compromise the quality of the relationship, but upending this relationship is really a perversion of logic carried out for purely selfish reasons ("I want what you are making, and I will give nothing in return").
southernplaces7
>Much the same way I benefit from Google indexing the internet, and summarizing news articles.
wow there. You do note the big difference between AI regurgitating someone's content and Google indexing it?
If I put effort into creating something digital and people find it through Google's massive index of the internet, at least they'll see who its by, enjoy it within its context and have the whole thing before them. This is way different from some algorithm mashing what it scraped from a creator's work into its own rehash of a bunch of content.
You can understand why someone might detest the one and appreciate the other?
If I create, I might want you to benefit from it, but I might also want you and others to know it came from me. Not just consume it as an undifferentiated part of some parasitic corporation's AI slurry.
adra
Google gives attribution and maybe provenance, while AI gives you smoke and mirrors. I guess we'll decide if copyright has any legs left to stand on in the modern world, or if it falls as collateral. It's so sad that commercial piracy has hit such an incredible tipping point that even I feel bad for creative people and their bleak economically dead future ahead.
aprilthird2021
Sure, but I am the creator of the content. And I'm fine with Google indexing the content. I'm not fine with AI doing it. Especially since many of the AI's monetization goals are to make me, specifically, jobless
dwg
Makes me wonder, how about changing your blog to a mailing list?
kmoser
That's no guarantee it won't get slurped up by an AI at some point. Anything that goes into, say, GMail is ripe for plucking. And there's always a good chance your newsletters will get publicly archived on some web page somewhere, whether intentional or not.
aprilthird2021
Yeah maybe that's the move. I don't really have a following though, lol
serial_dev
AI doesn’t care, the people using AI care. If you really write for other people, I’d recommend you reconsider blogging again.
Even if you write primarily for yourself (vanity, marketing, client acquisition, there is nothing wrong with that) and not for other people, I’d still recommend you publish your stuff. Not publishing will have always <= effect than publishing, even if AI slurps it up.
antonchekhov
JD Salinger took a lot of heat over his reticence to publish any more of his writings after Catcher In the Rye and the Glass family stories. In 1974, he responded to the NY Times, "There is a marvelous peace in not publishing. It's peaceful. Still. Publishing is a terrible invasion of my privacy. I like to write. I live to write. But I write just for myself and my own pleasure. I don't necessarily intend to publish posthumously, but I do like to write for myself. I pay for this kind of attitude. I'm known as a strange, aloof kind of man. But all I'm doing is trying to protect myself and my work."
sgt
Isn't there a robots.txt equivalent for AI?
Hamuko
You'd probably have a better time using something like Cloudflare to block known scrapers than trust companies that pirate terabytes of books to train their models to obey a "please don't" text file.
https://blog.cloudflare.com/declaring-your-aindependence-blo...
simianparrot
It’s not respected, there’s a lot of posts on HN about this.
Just one quick reference: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...
sanex
What about the idea that writing for the AI is your best opportunity to help contribute to it's direction?
Hamuko
Where's my cut of the AI profits?
sim7c00
what will happen if it was? some kind of end of the universe event?
i really dont think its such a big deal. If you enjoy blogging, then enjoy it. Maybe its an excuse, AI, for something that was already in the making.
deergomoo
I’m with you, my blog is a static site with no JS hosted on GitHub pages. Unless I ever see anyone discussing it or linking to it I have no way of even knowing if it’s being read or not. I write for me, mostly.
AndrewStephens
> I'm just some dude with a decent job occasionally writing blog posts because it amuses me. I'd be pleasantly surprised if a dozen people read them before I die.
That is exactly the right approach. Most of the posts on my blog have low 3 figure hit rates after being up for a decade (the long tail is a joke) - that averages to maybe 20 hits a year. But that is not that point. I enjoyed writing the posts and just maybe somebody, somewhere enjoyed reading my hot take on The Last Jedi or whatever.
I don't really understand the people who blog for "exposure" or money - it seems like such an effort for very little material gain.
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krige
I guess I am in the same boat. I blog because I have this creative urge to write about subjects that interest me, and put it on the web because why not. AI would only accomplish taking away the part that I find "fun" about it, the reason to do it in the first place.
sgt
The fact that you see it this way, actually makes your writing so much more interesting. It's genuine.
sim7c00
this is the spirit :). i dont mind ppl using AI or not actually. for some it really helps their writing. its what it exists for imho. but i do appreciate a good writer. other then that, blogs are about the topic, not it being written in some uber writing style.
for the writer, id hope like you it gives them joy, because that usually is something which gives it some spirit and joy to read also. its not important at all how things are worded if there was fun to be had!
hypertexthero
Writing is thinking. So is drawing.
To think clearly, come up with new ideas, make and truly understand things, we need to put marks on the blank page ourselves, and not just repeat what teachers or textbooks tell us like the majority of students Richard Feynman had during his time in Brazil — https://v.cx/2010/04/feynman-brazil-education
LLMs/AIs are useful to help us get farther, faster, like witty, skilled, intelligent friends who sometimes take too many magic mushrooms during conversations.
Forgetting about our own agency and individuality is bad for us, and dangerous for society.
“I am no bird; and no net ensnares me; I am a free human being, with an independent will.” —Charlotte Brontë, Jane Eyre
“Monsters exist, but they are too few in number to be truly dangerous. More dangerous are the common men, the functionaries ready to believe and to act without asking questions.” ―Primo Levi, If This is A Man
To create and be free like an animal outside a cage, ask, write, and draw your own questions. Look, and find out for yourself, rather than blindly believing what others tell you.
Two useful books:
Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards https://archive.org/details/DRAWINGONTHERIGHTSIDEOFTHEBRAINH...
The Hand - How Its Use Shapes the Brain, Language, and Human Culture by Frank R. Wilson https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/191866/the-hand-by-...
chefandy
For anyone put off by the dubiousness of the left/right brain thing, rest assured that Drawing On the Right Side of The Brain is no less useful as an introduction to abstract visual creativity because of it.
noufalibrahim
This comes back to my initial thought on the effect of AI on the "producer" rather than the "consumer".
I do a lot of things badly because it helps me develop skills and makes me happy. I wouldn't outsource this to an AI even if it did all these things better and the world benefited more from it. This is for me.
interludead
There's something deeply human about putting thoughts into words (or images) and shaping them into something tangible. AI might help speed things up or spark ideas, but if we rely on it too much, we risk losing that process of real discovery.
your_challenger
feynman-brazil-education was an amazing read. Thank you.
I am from India, and I have a similar experience with my education — one that forces you to memorize, never experiment, and never connect the dots. It felt like reading about my own past and realizing just how bad it was.
graemep
I have seen the same in Sri Lanka. It was not as bad in my day and I was mostly educated in Britain.
Sadly, now the UK is becoming more like that. Schools are judged by league tables based on exam and test results. My daughter's sixth form college (school for 16 to 18 year olds) has deteriorated quite a bit since her older sister went there five years ago and its pretty clear to me that is the cause. A lot of other schools seem to be the same or worse.
dennis_jeeves2
>Writing is thinking. So is drawing.
As a general rule, any kind of explaining done with the intent of making the recipient understand the _concept_ will require oneself to have though and understood the concept. Explaining could be in the form of writing, drawing (as you eluded to), verbal etc.
mvdtnz
Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain is discredited pseudoscience bullshit. The exercises will make you a better drawer but not for the very stupid reasons the author claims, but because they are drilled exercises.
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stevenhuang
> discredited pseudoscience bullshit
Care to substantiate? If the contention is on specifically which hemisphere of the brain is responsible for drawing ability, this is besides the point. The author even says
> Since the late 1970s, I have used the terms L-mode and R-mode to try to avoid the location controversy. The terms are intended to differ- entiate the major modes of cognition, regardless of where they are located in the individual brain.
mvdtnz
The entire left brain/right brain premise that the book is based in is totally bogus. The author constantly refers back to this nonsense theory throughout the book (yes I have read it). What she refers to (constantly) as "R-Mode thinking" simply isn't real. The book works as a learning aide because she largely takes regular learning techniques and drills, and dresses them up with nonsense scientism.
https://www.smartermarx.com/t/regarding-betty-edwards-drawin...
herbertl
> You're building up a portfolio of writing about topics that interest you.
This reason resonates with me immensely.
You're not just writing about what you've figured out, sometimes you're actually deepening your understanding as you write! Writing is the thinking process: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32628196
I have been writing every day at my blog for three years now, and it's been very rewarding for me to figure out what I actually care about and seeing patterns.
I like thinking about it like a bunch of skateboarders lugging the video camera around to capture the moment. (They did this before social media!)
P.S., You may also enjoy the similar sentiment in this post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42992159
LostMyLogin
> I like thinking about it like a bunch of skateboarders lugging the video camera around to capture the moment. (They did this before social media!)
We sure did! I’ll never forget my first vx1000 with a death lens.
nop_slide
VX1000 was peak camera in skateboarding. The one modern camera that seems somewhat close has been the whatever Lumix that the dudes at April Skateboards use. It's hd but has a 4:3 ratio and looks VX like in my opinion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuXqrq7aMO4
PS: I run skatevideosite.com, if anyone is interested in helping dev the site and skates hit me up!
gamedever
For me, the #1 reason I don't blog more, especially about tech topics, is that they take too long. Maybe you can bang out a useful blog post in 20 minutes. For me it's more like 4 to 8 hours.
I have to make samples. Since I do mostly web tech I want the samples to actually work, no "here's some code, trust me". I also need diagrams. And, I have to proofread since I'm terrible at getting it right in one or even 5 checks. I write once, add samples, write some more, add images, write some more. Every time I write I add errors, so it always takes multiple passes.
gpjt
Proofreading is one place that AI can actually be a friend rather than a foe. If you give Claude your draft and tell it explicitly to call out misspellings and grammatical errors only, it does a really good job.
zabzonk
Much like (say) MS Word does? In real time.
dc96
AI is a lot more powerful in this aspect.
MS Word would find no qualms in this sentence:
"I started the car and went for a drive on the highway. There were many other cats on the road but it was nevertheless agitating."
Given the correct prompt (that avoids changing your literary style altogether), AI can quickly suggest cats -> cars and agitating -> peaceful, since it's much better at contextualizing.
arvinsim
Proofreading is easily done with an editor. I think AI is much more useful for giving critic and advice on how you write your sentences. Setting the tone, refining the main idea, pointing out redundancies are some of the things that I find very useful.
gpjt
Sometimes, but you have to be careful. IME Claude and (to my surprise) Grok 3 are really good at understanding your style and adapting their suggestions to match. ChatGPT, by contrast, tries to change everything into some kind of corporate drone.
lawn
My drafts usually live for days, weeks, or even months before I publish them. (And sometimes I throw them away after having worked on them for many hours.)
My advice is to "chill": focus on the process instead of the result and let the posta take the time they take.
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arjie
I like writing too. Funnily enough, the age of LLMs makes this even better. I wrote a little MCP server (this is trivial with Claude) that interfaces with my blog so it can full-text search for articles and look up articles and look at recent articles and stuff like that and it is pretty good at finding references in what I've written to thoughts I've had. It's a bit trigger-happy when looking up my blog posts (I have to put more in the assistant prompt in the Claude app to get it to stop defaulting there).
The other thing that's nice is that LLMs make the process of writing better. When I cite stuff I can just screenshot the website and ask ChatGPT to write the citation and then check it. Things like that are more painful to write than to check and LLMs shine there.
rednafi
Blogging pushes me to explore things I probably wouldn’t otherwise. That’s been the main reason I’ve stuck with it pretty consistently[1] for the past five years.
Getting attention was never the goal, so the rise of LLMs has mostly been background noise to me. There have been plenty of times when I’ve searched for something on Google, only to land on my own page.
Over the years, though, things picked up. Now, I’m seeing around 30k monthly readers—way more than I ever expected. More than once, I’ve written about something I barely understood, only for the post to hit the front page. Then people corrected me, and I learned a ton in the process. That’s something I wouldn’t trade for anything.
[1]: https://rednafi.com/
gpjt
Me too! These last two posts blogging about blogging are unusual for me. I'm working through a book (Sebastian Raschka's "Build an LLM from scratch") and posting about that at the moment. It's likely not a coincidence that I'm procrastination-posting before going through the trickiest bit...
rednafi
I love reading meta-writings at times, as long as there’s a real human behind the keyboard. This was a fun, quick read.
coffeecantcode
Really enjoyed reading about your blog stack, motivating me to get my own up and running.
Love the blog!
rednafi
Thank you. One reason I wrote it was to demonstrate how easy it is to spin up a blog where everything is automated and you never have to worry about the infra.
coffeecantcode
I’ve tried building a static react blog and hosting it on vercel and while it was easy to set up there was just too much styling and configuration to sort through that by the time it came to writing i was pretty much unmotivated. Markdown seems to be the key here, going to try spinning one up tomorrow. Cheers.
interludead
Yeah, landing on your own blog post during a search is always a funny (and slightly surreal) moment!
rednafi
Funny indeed. I recently needed to set up GNU stow to manage my dotfiles on a new machine.
So I searched google and lo and behold, my own stuff was among the top 10 results.
https://rednafi.com/misc/dotfile_stewardship_for_the_indolen...
janalsncm
I think that as more people offload understanding to LLMs, being able to deeply understand a topic will make you stand out more and more. Doing things and explaining them are two of the best ways to get that deep understanding.
When I write about a technical topic, I open a new markdown doc and just go. You quickly run up against the limits of your own understanding, which is a valuable exercise.
morkalork
Exactly, reading and consuming information is one thing but teaching it to someone else is something else entirely. If you're not writing with the goal of self-marketing and content-farming, it's still worth it.
HKH2
You're conducting multiple parts of a dialogue when writing, but discussing what you've learnt can also be quite a good way of solidifying learning and encouraging further thought.
com2kid
I started blogging to record the history of projects I've worked on (e.g. Microsoft Band https://meanderingthoughts.hashnode.dev/history-of-microsoft... Launching HBO Max https://meanderingthoughts.hashnode.dev/only-300-software-en...) but, perhaps not surprisingly, my only "successful" article has been the one controversial article I wrote cautioning against using SSR for everything.
That said I believe documenting history is important so I'll keep sporadically writing down notable events I've been involved in!
I also blog a fair bit about AI, and there is no hope getting views there without playing the game.
azhenley
I think there is a more important reason to blog besides the 3 reasons listed: to force yourself to slow down, organize your thoughts, fill in the holes, and articulate your points.
"Writing is understanding."
tombert
"Writing is nature’s way of letting you know how sloppy your thinking is" - Guindon
Though admittedly I first heard it from Leslie Lamport and that's who I associate it with.
gpjt
That's what I was trying to cover with the "make your newly-acquired knowledge concrete" bit, and was my focus in the previous post. This time around I wanted to look into the aspects that might be impacted by AI (and why I didn't think they would be).
Hamuko
You don't really need to blog for that though? You could just write to a text file on your PC and not throw it online.
whatever1
Socrates would like a word with you.
simonw
I find that thing where people say "I'm not going to publish anything creative ever again, it'll just be used to train AI" so depressing.
It feels like such a dismal excuse to avoid andding any value to the world.
throw10920
You calling it a "dismal excuse" is an emotional hand-wavy dismissal that doesn't actually answer the fear or solve the problem.
Moreover, "the world" isn't a thing that you can add value to. You can add value to other people by sharing works with friends, or you can add value to AIs that are going to be used to replace you without getting compensated for it. One of those should be obviously bad.
ndarray
The world is already flooded with more "artistic value" than you can ever experience in your life. This market has been over-saturated forever. And it's all free of charge because "building a portfolio" for a chance of getting paid in the future is the go-to strategy. It was only a matter of time for a new predator (AI data collection) to arrive and exploit this situation. A handful of artists trying to react to this shouldn't be alarming. Good for them. Not because more free publishing would hurt them, but because they can invest their time better than into whatever the marginal benefit of posting the 50th free artwork might be.
worthless-trash
It's not an excuse, it is a reality. Why spend your personal time and effort for someone else with a deeper pocket to automatically extract value from your work.
There is certainly a line where if you're popular enough and have significant google juice you'll still get organic traffic, many small bloggers can go their entire posting history without getting more than a smattering of hits and now chatgpt is taking away that.
simonw
"Why spend your personal time and effort for someone else with a deeper pocket to automatically extract value from your work."
That's the exact attitude I'm talking about.
Because creating things is good! Because it's good to put value out there into the world, even if someone else might also use it.
creata
I think it can significantly change the harm-benefit calculus. (But I'd love to be wrong.)
In the past, I could be fairly confident that if someone else uses my work (and I want them to do that! that's the point of sharing!) the good that it causes will outweigh the bad that it causes. It's not like I'm helping people make missiles.
But now it's entirely possible (especially if my content is unpopular, such that LLMs make a larger proportion of its readers) that the bad outweighs the good, given the negative effects that LLMs have had and continue to have on our world.
petercooper
Why spend your personal time and effort for someone else with a deeper pocket to automatically extract value from your work.
People releasing their code under MIT or BSD licenses might be able to give good answers to this.
ndarray
Good answers like "it looks cool in my CV that big company XYZ uses my MIT licensed script"
throw10920
It's extremely dishonest to compare someone voluntarily releasing their work under a permissive license with someone who is involuntarily having their content and effort stolen by an organization training an AI.
Hamuko
*value to a private corporation that'll keep all of the profits, not pay for the environmental impact and then lobby lawmakers to stay untouchable.
You can still write, paint, compose and whatnot to create "value" – just don't put it on the Internet for scraping.
xamuel
To me, the fact that a blog post would be used to train AI is a good thing. Hell yes I want my writing to inform the future zeitgeist! I guess it helps that the things I want to write about are novel things no-one has ever written about. I could see how AI would demoralize me if I were otherwise employed writing Generic Politics Blog #84773. But as someone who writes original unique content, I'm like, hell yes, the more readers the merrier, whether they be human or AI or some unholy combination!
mirawelner
The main reason I blog is because I work (or am starting out working in) academia and therefore I have to write papers. To write academic papers you have to write terribly, using passive voice whenever possible.
I blog so that I know I am still capable of writing coherently, rather than in horrible academic language.
LPisGood
You can avoid the passive voice and write coherently or even conversationally if you have something interesting enough to say.
er4hn
There is also the gwern point of "You should write so that your voice is present in the future LLM": https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/PQaZiATafCh7n5Luf/gwern-s-sh...
gpjt
The jokey last paragraph was probably based on a half-memory of having read that, now you mention it...
It really fascinates me how the "other" clientele of HN operates. The world of networking, marketing yourself, creating a resume of sorts through your blogging. I'm just some dude with a decent job occasionally writing blog posts because it amuses me. I'd be pleasantly surprised if a dozen people read them before I die. AI doesn't really factor into the calculus of whether or not I want to continue doing it at all.