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Show HN: I built an app to stop me doomscrolling by touching grass

Show HN: I built an app to stop me doomscrolling by touching grass

286 comments

·February 24, 2025

i wanted to change the habit of reaching for my phone in the morning and doomscrolling away an hour so i built an app to help me. now i have to literally touch grass before accessing my most distracting apps

the app is built in swiftui, uses the screen time apis provided by apple and google vision to recognise grass or not

i'd love to get your thoughts on the concept.

camtarn

This is a hilarious concept and would probably genuinely help. Nicely done!

I used to have a similar issue with hiding inside all the time (during Covid times, of course) and to motivate myself to go outside, I started an Instagram of tiny little plants growing in cracks in the pavement. I tried to add a new tiny plant every day or two, which meant that I had to wander further and further afield to find a suitable specimen. It wasn't perfect, but was quite motivating.

CincinnatiMan

I love the irony here. Going outside into “real life” to find pictures to post on a site that keeps people inside.

johnmaguire

"[...] the outside world, the non-digital world, is merely a theatrical space in which one stages and records content for the much more real, much more vital digital space. One should only engage with the outside world as one engages with a coal mine. Suit up, gather what is needed, and return to the surface." -- bo burnham, Inside

https://youtu.be/PSClBFUe-o0?t=26

thatcat

solid bit, but weird transition into pirate maps

Sharlin

TBH I don't think Instagram particularly keeps people inside given that >99.99% of its users use it exclusively on mobile.

bentaber

Because people don’t use their phones at home?

Aurornis

From what I’ve seen, Instagram is better at motivating young people to go outside and do things than video games were in the 90s or even today.

With Instagram they see their friends doing things and it’s a reminder that going outside and/or spending time with friends is fun. There’s a lot of pearl clutching about people getting jealous about other people’s vacation pictures, but on the whole the active Instagram users I know are much more social and likely to spend time outside the house than the gamers or Redditors. By a wide margin.

slyn

May have been true when Instagram was a photos app with a chronological timeline of only the accounts you follow + a few ads. If you wanted to seek content outside of your personally curated feed it was in a different tab or you would need to search for it.

Now it’s a meme-shorts first platform that constantly suggests content outside of your follows and non-chronologically. You can’t opt out of “suggested content” pictures or videos in your feed for more than 30 days at a time and there is no option to permanently opt out. It’s not possible to opt out of shorts (reels) suggestions in your feed. It’s not possible to opt out of meta “threads” suggestions in your feed. I just opened the app and 5 of the first 11 items in my feed were sponsored ads, and 1 of the 11 was suggested “threads”.

acyou

Is this still true though? My gut feeling is that most Instagram users are now passive, meaning they doomscroll and never post while lying in bed in their parents basement while their 20s sail by.

Not so much a stereotype as a reflection of the real people I know.

I think we used to see much more content from friends, I think the feed is now mostly content creators/ads/tiktokified, no?

chasd00

pokemon-go got a lot of people outdoors too. I would see kids walking around the neighborhood with their phones out looking for pokemon, it wasn't perfect but at least they were outside getting some air.

BigGreenJorts

I stand by the meme: that summer was closest we've gotten to world peace.

0xEF

It's still very popular in my area during the warmer weather. I don't play the game myself but it is quite nice to see, really and makes me feel a little better about my community, as silly as that sounds. When people get out and enjoy public spaces together, it nurtures a positive perspective.

satyarthms

I'm a connoisseur of plants growing in cracks in the pavement, mind sharing a link?

camtarn

mattcantstop

I'd be cool to create a simple template that you could repeat for each post in video form:

- The plant - The location (sidewalk, park, etc) - Native vs non-native? - Seen as a weed or flower/desirable plant? - Who pollinates it.

I just subscribed.

satyarthms

Nice pics, very heartwarming and solarpunk!

InDubioProRubio

Bricky roads They trappers grass Stony walls They trappers wind Iron stove It trappers fire Trappers is we By the works of hands And forgets us We were ever free...

JadeNB

I wonder how many of us picked up this habit from COVID? It definitely got me to appreciate my local flora way better, and the fact that I get weird looks for bending down to take pictures of tiny little insect and plant life is, well, let me be honest, I kind of enjoy being the neighborhood eccentric.

drivers99

During COVID I'd take a lot of walks, and in a similar way, it helped to have some kind of basically useless goal/destination in mind. For me it was checking out how construction in a nearby park was going, including what was happening in a temporary holding pond. I would send "pond updates" to my family in other states, which they found amusing. I got really interesting in all the different birds I was seeing and how the plants were growing. Now that I'm downtown, in a more "walkable" place, I don't really have the same variety of interesting natural things to see. Maybe I can think of something similar.

camtarn

Aw, that's a really lovely goal! A growing pond sounds like an excellent walking target - during lockdown I headed to my local reservoir quite a few times and just wandered around the path by its edge.

I also enjoy watching construction - I feel like in a different country and different life, I would have been an 'Umarell' (an elderly Italian man who stands watching construction sites)

risquer

I really love that, would you mind sharing the insta?

racktash

Fun idea!

I am always astounded how hard it can be to break doom scrolling as a habit DESPITE knowing how much better I feel when I can't / don't do it.

When I don't do it, I will often spend my time doing something personally productive, but even if I do nothing at all instead, it's still better – my head is clearer, I can think so much better; I feel more content and optimistic about life in general; time goes slower.

saganus

Dopamine addiction is very nasty.

freetonik

Very cool concept! I wanted to make a similar thing a few years ago, but for a slightly different purpose: force myself to walk more. I built an iOS app called Geostreaks [1] with a simple mechanic: pick an outdoor location (for example, a nearby park) and “check in” there every day.

I couldn’t justify the yearly developer fee though, so the app has been removed from the App Store a few years later :(

1. https://appadvice.com/app/geostreaks/1482655198

ColeShepherd

Can you please open-source it?

basisword

Nice idea. I feel like we don't see as many fun/whimsical apps these days as we did 10-15 years ago.

vitaflo

Whimsical doesn’t make money and we are a society of sellouts.

Ginguin

We are a social species living in a world where everything is commodified, and to survive means trying to find a way to exist in that space. It creates a mindset where even a simple hobby needs to somehow create profit, because everything around us requires we have and/or create money over all of the less tangible things that actually make humans happy.

Some people have the luxury of being able to step around that mindset, even if only for a little bit, but there is less and less space for just existing.

robocat

Well said. I hear my arty/crafty friends get recommended to sell their "works". Thinking of art as an investment is a scourge.

Unfortunately money is useful, even if the game of chasing it is stupid and can be doomingly addictive. Looking after it for retirement is hell and trains one to be tight or a gambler.

The worst part is that we all know other things are more important than money: most people seem to choose jobs for their invisible benefits rather than financial outcomes. Our world runs because of our internal goals rather than money. The teacher that wants to help their students. The taxi driver that just likes to meet people. The engineer that strives for perfection. Does Matt Levine write for money?

The social incentives are whacko, and the government incentives are often insane. I have some admiration for those that find a way to get the benefits of society at the lowest time costs to themselves.

We fear we live in a purely capitalist world - yet the invisible incentives (economic surplus) are what makes everything work. The danger of seeing everyone else as a money grubber, while knowing that we ourselves are driven by better motivations.

Cthulhu_

The other factor is that there were too many "whimsical" apps, which were mostly variations of drinking beer, iphone guns, or fart apps. Apple cracked down hard on those by adding rules about similar / copycat apps or low value apps.

basisword

There were lots of those. Back when you could easily sell rubbish for 99¢ making copying popular apps possibly worthwhile. But there's still latitude for creativity. I came across this[1] Mac app at the end of last year which decorates your desktop with Christmas lights. Completely useless, but very fun and whimsical. I feel like there used to be more of this. There also used to be more creativity in functional apps too when development was less focussed on metrics/engagement. I feel like even the more fun indie apps started copying the 'big guys' with complex onboarding tutorials, gamification, and upselling. Maybe it was just because the platforms were newer and simpler back then. Maybe it's rose tinted glasses :)

[1] https://simonbs.gumroad.com/l/festivitas

thecosas

Perhaps not all whimsy, but definitely take a look at https://www.creativeapplications.net/blog/ for some interesting stuff people are doing out there in the world.

thruway516

But when we had fart app everyone said civilization was coming to an end

basisword

I don't think that reaction was to the existence of them - merely the fact people were parting with money for them to the extent that developers were making significant money (short-term anyway). "Drinking" a pint, or blowing out the flame on a "lighter" were both quite cool moments for people when smartphones first arrived.

hathawsh

I thought for a moment you were talking about https://whimsical.com/, which is productivity suite that people depend on for work. I wouldn't want to hear it's shutting down! Then I realized you're talking about the concept of whimsical things, not a company. Whew!

SketchySeaBeast

Is it possible that we're not as comfortable as we were a decade ago? I'll admit to having no aspirations to make that next killer app, but that's because I'm fairly financially secure, not wealthy by any means, but a decent paying job with a pension, and I know that's a privileged position the days.

vitaflo

People always say this but it tends to be the poor broke art kids who create some crazy cool shit for the hell of it that eventually becomes commodified.

hakube

and subscriptions

beAbU

Geolocate the user to ensure that at least the touching of a picture of grass tookplace outside.

aembleton

And then update that location on OSM as having grass

trizuz

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Monetu26

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oever

Here's a whimsical site I made a few years ago. You can look up grasses and other lifeforms and see how they are related.

https://sol.vandenoever.info/?lang=en,nl&uids=119845,135774,...

sureIy

I've been wanting something like this for a very long time. I always imagined seeing the "scientific classification" metro-style path where at some point it splits showing how far apart are two species.

risquer

Thank you! It's a silly idea but it does actually work for me

mhh__

iBeer seems so quaint now

y-curious

Check out this fake lighter app I have

bloopernova

I added reddit.com to uBlock Origin's filters list. I can still visit it, but there's now a screen asking me if I'm sure I want to go there. It's stopped me a few times, and it's breaking that muscle memory of "pick up phone & check reddit/etc"

cryptopian

A few years back, I realised how bad the addiction was when I deleted a couple of apps. While doing other things on my phone, I'd autopilot going to the apps list and tapping the empty space where Reddit/Twitter used to be. You're right, that little bit of friction is enough to make you stop and ask "what am I really getting out of this?"

redox99

Reddit has gotten so bad over the last decade that I've stopped browsing it altogether, except for one or two niche subreddits every now and then.

65

Every god damn subreddit gets infested with political content it's hard to browse. And even if you want to get more niche in depth content, most of the time subreddits will be filled with extremely beginner, basic questions.

darknavi

I am really hoping they kill old.reddit.com so I can finally cut it off completely.

sureIy

Something simpler that has helped me break off some websites is to just log out. Twitter and Facebook have no feed if you log out. Reddit on the opposite will show you an empty feed if you're logged in but follow no subreddit. YouTube does neither, but I like long videos so it's unlikely I mindlessly open one.

bigbuppo

Google+ is still part of my muscle memory. It was such a pleasant place when they stopped mandating people use it.

Acrobatic_Road

I'm not familiar with how those filter lists work. What do I have to enter to get a screen like this?

hartator

What about the app?

nostromo

The reddit app is so bad, it may actually have been designed to end addiction to reddit.

sureIy

It literally cannot be worse than the website. Reddit has always sucked except for that brief period between the creation of the new UI and the enshittification of the new UI. I never used the old UI before because it was so bland and there were so many better alternative UIs.

bloopernova

I have never installed it.

I prefer to access things through a web browser.

cryptopian

I actually found that certain browser equivalents of attention sucking apps were poor quality enough that using them only through the browser was enough friction to wean myself off them. old.reddit.com is especially badly optimised for anything other than a desktop screen.

scosman

Canadian here: I look forward to using my apps again in April.

sexy_seedbox

HongKonger here, no grass to be found in concrete jungle.

zdc1

I remember seeing a small patch at the top of The Peak that should do the trick

sureIy

Surely you can find some green plastic herbs somewhere.

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duxup

This is going to be rough up north where I am, too much snow.

adverbly

Same problem here... Trying to think of some substitutions:

1. Touch snow

2. See the sun while outdoors.

3. Say hi to someone in person.

4. Text a friend or family member.

5. Touch a tree.

I think touch a tree would be the most direct substitution. Something to be said for a social substitution too though, but it probably doesn't match the initial intent of touching grass.

madmountaingoat

Of course no one needs an app to do any of this, but the general idea of getting out and touching a tree, climbing a snowbank, going out without a coat or hat for a few minutes when it's freezing are all the sorts of things that keep me happy during in the winter.

rob74

Besides, depending on your location, touching a tree might also be more hygienic than touching grass (e.g. if you happen to be in an area used for dog-walking).

hmmm-i-wonder

Its all ice and snow outside. I'd be locked out for a while

Then again maybe that would be a good thing.

risquer

I plan on letting the user select what they have to touch, for launch it's just grass but customisation is on the way!

moolcool

I'm up in icy Canada, but a social media hibernation might do me well.

duxup

As fast as some social media circles move I imagine come spring it's possible to not understand the context of most of what is being posted.

cjbgkagh

Sounds like a good way for a temporary fix to become a permanent one.

alaithea

Hibernating? Touch Bear.

You'll never use social media again.

ge96

Make an Instagram of tiny snowmen with different scarves

Etheryte

From touch grass to shovel snow for a while and then touch grass.

thruway516

Build startup and exit for +$20m before you can unlock your apps for the extra motivated

baranul

Valid point. Should not only be to touch grass. At least snow, sand from the beach, and trees could at least be on the list.

johnmaguire

Grab a shovel!

paulddraper

Me too.

Touch snow.

pcthrowaway

People are just going to carry a patch of fake grass around with them to bypass the checks. So I suspect the reviews will be astroturfed.

asystole

This is on the order of the "descartes before the whores" joke on reddit years ago. Generational stuff

jakelazaroff

Maybe the best joke I've seen in ~10 years of regularly checking this site, 10/10

vladdrak

“Fresh Patch Indoor Potty Grass” is going to make a killing out of this.

myvoiceismypass

Reviewing this app is a sod job, but someone's gotta do it

oniony

Why bother you when you dye your private turf green?

dkenyser

This gave me a good chortle. Thanks.

m3kw9

Just google grass pics? The thing is if you are gonna cheat anyways you can just not use the app and you “win”

null

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benfarahmand

three's 2 feet of snow on the ground. there's no grass. what do i do? can we get an update to touch snow?

silisili

Keep a little patch of turf on the table next to your armchair, and you can touch grass without ever even getting up.

Baggie

my neighborhood is very low on grass will tree support be added? I like them better and we have a lot more of them

sincerely, Lorax

szszrk

A/B testing. You got a high difficulty variant.

BobAliceInATree

I live in the middle of Manhattan not near a park. There is zero grass near me that I would touch.

yssrnjm

App not recommended for Canadians. Unless someone makes a 'touch snow' plugin.

redeux

Same for people who live in the Southwest US, unless someone makes a 'touch dirt' or 'touch cactus' plugin.

simondanerd

Is there an Android version coming soon?

Also it would be better if you kept Instagram uninstalled... I see it installing on the screenshot!

risquer

Soon...ish Android equivalent is hard but it is in the back of my mind!

aeve890

Wdym is hard? Hard like is harder to make apps for Android than iOS? Genuinely curious

feznyng

iOS has a system level API for this sort of thing. Android does not.

tcoff91

In general yes iOS dev is easier than android and especially for screen time apps

risquer

Yeah you basically need to write your own screen time api for android and use the draw over permission - it's going to be an interesting build for sure!

mikragor

Technically, the icon displays the app as paused from the time limit. Once you surpass the time limit using the app, you can stop using it or allow you temporarily (1 minute to 15 minutes or stop limiting the usage for today) to continue to use it. It's a neat option to have this on your phone, but I usually keep expanding my time limit more than just quitting the app. I think that's what this app is aiming for, allowing you to use the app more time requires more effort than 2 taps.

askl

It's less fun and not exactly the same but focus mode is already included in Android.

https://blog.google/products/android/android-focus-mode/