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See the submissions you have flagged (maybe accidentally)

dang

Ok you guys, I hear you and will try to work on the confirmation thing soon.

lzlarryli

All my flagged are by mistake. This is a UI issue for mobile. Flag and hide really should not be put next to discuss on the equal footing on the front page (the usage ratio should be more than 10x). I use discuss many times a day but never hide or flag. Maybe it is better to only show these on the discussion page (better for more thoughtful actions too, less incentive to flag without even having a chance of glancing the discussion).

_fat_santa

I just checked and every one of mine are by mistake. Small suggestion for @dang and the dev team but you could put the flag behind a `confirm(...)`, it would be an extra click but would prevent posts from being erroneously flagged.

hinkley

I have this site set to 125% on tablet, and I still misclick on shit all the fucking time. I only don’t bitch about it because Reddit is even worse.

24 pixels. Thats the minimum affordance suggestion by W3c (and it probably should be 32px IMO) for a click target on mobile if you don’t want to be the asshole. You make the padding clickable if the target is smaller than that.

> Undersized targets (those less than 24 by 24 CSS pixels) are positioned so that if a 24 CSS pixel diameter circle is centered on the bounding box of each, the circles do not intersect another target or the circle for another undersized target;

savolai

Also: the meaning of ”flag” isn’t obvious to me as non native (could this be for bookmarking a thread?) so a confirmation dialog explaining what it means could also ve helpful.

TriangleEdge

Not important, but to whoever maintains this site, on mobile, on the front page of HN, the text goes right to the edge of the screen if the word break does not occur. A few px of padding would be nice!

weinzierl

Same for me. I very rarely flag and I never thought I flagged accidentally but apparently I did in about two thirds of flagged submissions.

I am also never sure if I downvoted by accident or if downvotes are a thing here at all. Sometimes I see up and down arrows, but they are dangerously close on mobile and no matter where I touch they feel like one button anyway. I also could not find a way to see my downvotes, so I am not sure if downvoting is even possible.

EDIT: The up/down arrows work. If I touch the lower half the arrows disappear both and the comment does not appear in my upvoted list. I do get the option to "undown" however (as opposed to the usual "unvote").

My attempts hacking the upvoted comment list URL to find a downvoted list were not successful.

Sorry to parent comment, you were my guinea pig. I restored the upvote, hope the temporary downvote does not hurt.

NobodyNada

Yeah. I had probably around 70 flagged submissions, and maybe 5 or 6 of them were on purpose. I read HN on mobile a lot, and didn't even notice that I accidentally flag things (although I know I accidentally hide things all the time, so it's not a surprise)

jjcc

Me too. I unflagged all of them

instagib

Same here. Many use it as a mega downvote button to kill stories they don’t like.

Some dupe posts I flagged are missing last time I looked at it. Possibly working as intended. Comments from another section are missing from my account that I had wanted to save criticizing the moderating down-weight system too.

TheFreim

I wish there was a way to manually enable more friction for flagging. When I use the site on mobile I find it very easy to accidentally flag when I am trying to hide a post, a setting to enable a confirmation window would be quite useful to help prevent this.

ryandrake

I liked Slashdot's old moderation system, where you had a drop-down, and you at least had to choose from a few preset "reasons" for your moderation action. It's not perfect, but it might at least cause a few people to pause and reflect on why they feel such a strong urge to get rid of that headline.

For HN, you could map the drop-down contents directly to submission guidelines:

- Poor/incorrect title

- Non-original source

- Promotion/spam

- ...

crazygringo

I love that.

Especially when some things feel like they should have a low threshold for flagging (if 2 people agree it's obvious commerical spam, or terrible-quality content, or a duplicate submission from the past 48 hours), while others feel like they should have a higher threshold (e.g. if 5 people agree it's off-topic for HN, or a threshold proportional to upvotes).

matsemann

I've also sometimes wanted to flag something for moderator attention, without wanting to give it a "strike". Like the discussion is worth keeping, but point to a better source or something. Your categories somehow solves that.

k1t

Dang did say this was on the todo list.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40958364

Like others in the thread, the first time I looked at my list of flagged submissions, there were 20+ just random things on there that I had obviously just fat-fingered on mobile.

oezi

I think flagging should be something done quite purposefully, maybe even at the cost of Karma and absolutely need a confirm("...")

dingnuts

and what currency that would be! make some successful shit posts and it gives you the privilege of silencing a political opponent in a debate! great fun

lisper

Better that than bestowing that power on newbies and sock puppets.

Aachen

For an example implementation, downvoting in stackexchange costs you 1 point and takes 2 from the person being downvoted iirc (an upvote gets you nothing and bestows 10 points). You can only downvote if you've got a few points on the site, many fewer than on HN (the threshold here is 500 iirc). Flagging is always possible but afaik never leads to automatically killing the thing you're flagging, so downvoting is the way to downrank and fade out posts of people you disagree with. If you think this isn't a good system, it might be worth looking at how it works there, what the problems and benefits are and make a suggestion of what would be better

nh2

This could be fixed with a single confirm().

kibwen

I'm always accidentally hiding things while scrolling, which I only notice when I see something vanish with no obvious way to bring it back. Who knows how many other things I've done by accident that don't have obvious visual cues. Likewise, I'm always fat-fingering downvote when I mean to upvote, but at least nowadays there's an indicator of what you've done and a way to undo your vote (for a long time, there wasn't!).

swores

> (for a long time, there wasn't!)

Back then I decided to never upvote anything, because hitting the wrong arrow was so easy and that I figured no votes was a better contribution to the site than frequently wrong direction votes!

It's fairly rare now that I accidentally click anything other than a (thankfully easy to reverse) up or down arrow, but I still 100% agree that anything like "hide" should be easily reversible.

aranelsurion

This and voting up/down are a pain on the mobile UI. It's too easy to downvote instead of upvote, or flag something without even noticing in this case. (I just found two perfectly normal posts I've flagged)

I think the main reason is the Web1.0 design of HN doesn't translate well to small screens.

clcaev

Yes, I have 30% failure rate in mobile, even when pinching. I always now check for "undown" or "unvote".

blah2244

Fwiw, there are some pretty great HN reader apps I’ve found — Hack and Octal are the two favorites I’ve come across for iOS.

crazygringo

Wow, around half of mine I accidentally flagged, I'm guessing.

Definitely feels like there ought to be some kind of confirmation required.

Especially when it only takes, what, 2 flags for something to be killed? (Or is it more, or does it depend on votes?)

fnordian_slip

I opened that page expecting maybe one or two accidental flags, since I thought myself to be quiet careful when looking at hn on mobile. Instead, it's more like 70% for me. I'll now try to make it a habit to check this page quite often, but this is just fighting the symptoms. I believe a confirmation popup or something similar would help a lot more.

matsemann

> Especially when it only takes, what, 2 flags for something to be killed?

Feels like that's being gamed at the moment, certain topics are killed instantly.

clcaev

Perhaps if you have anything flagged in past 48h, it says so with a top banner that shows flagged submissions?

cjcampbell

The flag button sits right in the zone I swipe with my right thumb on mobile. Occasionally I notice and go unflag something. Clicking through this, I found several pages of posts I’ve flagged. I’d guess I’ve done no more than five posts intentionally. The rest were just the big dumb thumbs.

I wholeheartedly agree with the recommendation to add a confirmation to the action.

lucasyvas

I had about 15 posts that I had apparently flagged for no deliberate reason. 0 were intentionally flagged - guess I also have mobile fat finger.

r721

Also - submissions you have vouched for: https://news.ycombinator.com/vouched

kogens

And hidden https://news.ycombinator.com/hidden

(I literally just accidentally pressed hide on a post and was wondering how to un-hide it when I saw this post, nice coincidence!)

Aachen

You can email HN to enable a hidden feature that hides the hide button/link. I've got it enabled because I never used the function anyway; it's much nicer not being able to accidentally hide things. Not sure why it's not on the profile page

snowwrestler

Folks with trouble hitting the little links and arrows on mobile: reverse-pinch to zoom works great on HN. Make the arrows huge on the screen and it’s easy to hit the one you want.

matsemann

Reverse pinch to zoom? What you mean? I can only zoom in.

ayewo

See: https://i.sstatic.net/2BDFS.png [1]

Reverse pinch == "Unpinch" in the image above.

[1] Original is at https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49439378/google-chrome-d...

matsemann

Does nothing here, perhaps browser/device specific?

oneeyedpigeon

That's exactly what they mean: reverse pinch to zoom in.

Flimm

I can see dozens, maybe hundreds,q of submissions that were all flagged accidentally. I wish Hacker News paid a minimum of attention to UX on small touchscreens.

deanc

It seems I have flagged quite a few things while dozing off to sleep reading HN in bed. Would these more impactful actions be better served with a confirmation? Even a prompt would do

sanbor

Thank you for sharing. I had three perfectly normal flagged posts I don’t recall flagging

EcommerceFlow

Any type of "wrong think" on my account gets flagged these days, makes commenting on debates pointless. I said this about SpaceX vs Nasa and my comment got flagged:

"SpaceX has shown us that private enterprise is the way. Giant decades long projects are slow, stifled by bureaucracy, and less effective."

This was in a political post about Nasa gets their budget cut, a political position I support with the above rational.

bigstrat2003

This is a big problem with the flag system - it constantly gets abused as a "I hate this person's opinion" button. It's very common to see comments flagged to death simply because they expressed an unpopular opinion (especially about politics), even though the comments are perfectly polite and on-topic for the thread. I keep show dead on and vouch for comments when I see they have been shouted down in this way, but unfortunately the user behavior is deeply ingrained and unlikely to go away.

93po

i downvote comments that some might interpret as “i disagree with this” downvoting, but in reality, i downvote comments that shoehorn in a contentious opinion only loosely related to the topic, usually because the commenter has an axe to grind. i also downvote comments that feel astroturf-adjacent—those that echo a common but tiresome sentiment, especially when it’s not well-founded in facts but instead regurgitated as a talking point pushed by billionaire-owned corporate media to an audience that doesn’t always critically examine the narratives being fed to them.

i want HN to have curious and interesting conversation founded in objective facts. the previously desscribed style of commenting is not that, so i will downvote it

conductr

I notice downvote button isn’t always available on some of the debate-y threads. Sometimes the reply button isn’t available for some time too. I assume high response velocity is more so enabling arguements to take place, like happens on Reddit more commonly. Anyways, I wonder if you’re being flagged in absence of a downvote function/button being available.