Scientists invent "slime" – could be used in medical, energy, robot applications
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·February 8, 2025quanto
falcor84
Generating electricity from people stepping on the floor is actually already a thing with current technology - https://www.pavegen.com/
cjbgkagh
AFAIK They even had schools designed to limit the students bypassing these generators. Something about having the role of a child being to generate a miniscule amount of electricity seemed very dystopian to me.
bcraven
Coldplay use them on their concert tours:
gs17
I wondered how the math works out in reality.
https://energy-floors.com/products/kinetic-dancefloor/ implies one tile is rated at up to 20 W output. The 44 tiles Coldplay has would then be up to ~800 W (some of them seem less accessible). I guess I don't know enough to figure out how much it saves compared to the emissions of lugging it around, but I'm kind of skeptical it actually "boosts sustainability".
BriggyDwiggs42
Oh no is it just solar roadways again
falcor84
They have a solar product too, but their main approach is this:
> The weight from each step across Pavegen tiles creates a small vertical movement of 5mm-10mm compressing an electromagnetic generator and creating a rotary motion to produce 2-4 joules of off-grid, clean energy.
rcxdude
It's a scam with investor's current understanding of technology.
user432678
> if installed in floors, your employees could be tracked, exposing less efficient team.
xeonmc
Expectation: "This will have innumerable applications in medical, energy, and robot applications!"
Reality: It will be used for sex.
zelias
I always wondered how "living slimes" made their way into various low level video game sewer systems.
Now I can see it...this stuff dumped down the drain, mixed with refuse and the occasional decomposing organic material...who knows what it could produce
danwills
While this seems cool and fascinating, I think it'd be good to call it something other than 'slime'! That word is already taken, several times over.. why not get creative? "Electro-squeeze-goo"? "Piezoelectric-paste"?
biofox
There's a pervasive idea amongst science communicators that you have to use common childlike words to make science accessible -- there's a fear that technical words are elitist and exclusionary. The end result is that every science documentary is now presented like a kids TV show, even when it's targeted at adults.
EDIT: Forgot to add, the researchers referred to it as a "Ferroelectric soft material".
xarope
And this is how we get "the length of 5000 olympic pools", "the length of 200 747s placed nose to tail" etc.
Like really, people can't understand 155 miles/250km, or 8.8 miles/14.2km?
falcor84
I also never understood who the 747s need to be placed nose to tail. I think if I was in charge of measuring via planes, I would place them nose to nose and tail to tail.
SlightlyLeftPad
Convert that to bananas
155 miles = 1409090.9 Bananas
8.8 miles = 80000 Bananas
araes
Not really. In the abstract that's just some number. It's the same issue with money. The numbers involved don't mean anything. 1, 2, 3, 4, large number. Most measurements that actually tend to mean anything tend to be human scaled. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_scale
In the case of the distance measurements used, those are numbers beyond distances most humans will ever personally travel. In the modern era, many likely travel that distance in cars fairly regularly, yet then there's an intermediary. The human themselves are not traveling 100+ miles. Even in those cases, it's often changed into another form, such as "a couple hours drive." Very few actually walk 100+ miles and have any concept of that type of distance from their own human perspective. Used to be a part of Boy Scouts, and even in an organization focused on hiking, the amount that ever actually went on a 50 mile hike was rather small.
They also use abstract units without much actual connection to humans themselves. What's a mile? How about a km? A unit decided by committee based on the distance across the Earth.
"In August 1793, the French National Convention decreed the metre as the sole length measurement system in the French Republic and it was based on 1/10 millionth of the distance from the orbital poles (either North or South) to the Equator, this being a truly internationally based unit."
It's a 1000 of those, whatever that means. Truly international.When it gets smaller and closer to your actual life, people can actually visualize those ideas. It's a concrete object, you may have actual experience with, and a sensation of how far that is, and amount "noun" it takes to interact with. (time, effort, ect...) It's rare that anybody ever even looks at anything labeled "this distance is a mile", "this distance is a km", or something similar. The most frequent would be road markers. How often do most people walk down the highway and try to "human scale" remember how far a mile is? "That's like the distance from downtown to that highway onramp" or something similar.
For a lot of humanity, there's suspicion that most likely cannot even tell me how far it is across their town. A distance that's interacted with semi-regularly. It might be the numbers you quote. Perhaps it's 8.8 miles. However, most can probably not just state that number, and would likely use an intermediary form like "a couple hours walk", or "a 15 minute drive by car."
fujinghg
That is exactly the problem. When my family watch science documentaries I die inside a bit. They seem to have left with some insight but they managed to slap about 20 words together and some fancy scenes and extrapolations and turn it into an hour of garbage.
Cue Brian Cox thoughtfully staring into oblivion.
biofox
For a nice reminder of how science communication used to be, there's always the BBC archive:
maxsilver
My first thought was that it sounded kinda like "Structure gel" - https://soma.fandom.com/wiki/Structure_Gel
cortic
Flubber? Sorry, I’ll see my way out.
igleria
electric goo would be a nice one!
wsintra2022
Flubber
tommiegannert
Ferroelectric soft materials formed with alkanolamines and unsaturated fatty acids
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016773222...
I don't understand cyclic voltammetry, but it seems from Fig 4a this tops out at about 75 µW/cm²?
14
My kids just want to know if they can play with it and spill in on the carpet or car seat or couch so they can create hours of work for me cleaning up their slime.
On a serious note these material discoveries are neat to see but seldom do we see any real world applications come out of them. I am absolutely ready for the next game changing tech to come out. The next battery. Or finally fusion power. A space elevator. Anything. My guess is the next big change will be personal robots becoming main stream. First in business then in our homes. We were promised clothes folding laundry machines a couple years back that never happened. I need my laundry bot asap.
falcor84
It's probably going to take a bit longer, but there's a lot of ongoing progress in this area. A recent approach is actually called ASAP - https://agile.human2humanoid.com/
itronitron
Maybe we need a washing machine that acts more like a car wash. Basically you take a shower with your clothes on and then stand under a giant fan to dry off.
xarope
+1. Forget self driving, where are those darn ironing and folding bots? Talk about hours saved.
fujinghg
I hate marketing releases for scientific papers.
The one paper I co-authored whilst mostly drunk on a Mediterranean island would have been described as "new statistical model could save billions of lives!" if we hadn't called the university out on it. It would have been a grand extrapolation of a nothing.
metalman
I like that the lead scientist is testing the material for basic saftey by useing it as a hand salve for apres rock climbing, as that fits in exactly with one of the more interesting use cases. last comment in the article...
lazyweb
As predicted by Mass Effect 1: Introducing Omni-gel.
sandslides
So Ghostbusters II is now reality? :)
lucyjojo
could it help to make better robot skin?
standardly
Gelatinous Cube! I knew it was an inevitable reality. I for one welcome our slime overlords
> If installed in floors, it could produce clean energy when people walk on it.
This is a bit far fetched as it does not mention any power density figure. Being compressed likely squeezes out micro watts. Off by at least 6 orders of magnitude.
What's interesting is that these materials can be used as sensors, building small voltages/sending small currents when deformed.