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Alibaba/T-HEAD's Xuantie C910

Alibaba/T-HEAD's Xuantie C910

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·February 4, 2025

gnfargbl

There are some comparative benchmarks on a slightly older post: https://chipsandcheese.com/p/a-risc-v-progress-check-benchma...

Alifatisk

They used words like ”ultra” high performance, I am not that knowledgeable to confirm this, but is it really that?

stonogo

Only compared to other RISC-V processors.

whatever1

Apart from the lip service that has obvious reasons to support that latest chip technology is crucial to the national security, I fail to understand why this is the case.

What is the disadvantage that a country has if they only have access to computer technology from the 2010s? They will still make the same airplanes, drones, radars tanks and whatever.

It seems to me that it is nice to have SOTA manufacturing capability for semi-conductors but not necessary.

bzzzt

> What is the disadvantage that a country has if they only have access to computer technology from the 2010s?

Try running a LLM on hardware from 2010.

whatever1

Running LLMs I am absolutely positive I could do with my Dell r810 cluster back in 2010, if I had access to DeepSeek.

Training a frontier model probably not. Again not clear what is the strategic benefit of having access to a frontier LLM model vs a more compact & less capable one.

misiek08

I think „scary” is the best word. If of course rumor about choosing RISC-V over ARM is true! We just saw big win of ARM over Intel's multi-decade scam and yet here we are with another split from ARM, because of politics. Scary to see how stupid, talking people, convincing other people to hate without real reasons can lead to such stories…

wren6991

> We just saw big win of ARM over Intel's multi-decade scam

We also just saw Arm sue one of their customers following an acquisition of another of Arm's customers, and try to make them destroy IP that was covered by both customers' licenses. Nobody wants to deal with licensing, and when the licensor is that aggressive it makes open alternatives all the more compelling, even if they're not technically on-par.

Malidir

RISC-V is open source.

Stop being so squareand embrace the future maaaaann.

buyucu

RISC-V is open source. Everyone wins when we switch from Arm to RISC-V. Well, everyone except Arm.

stonogo

I'm less convinced the RISC-V move is about politics and more convinced it's about not paying for ARM licenses.

Malidir

Arm is Softbank.

And Softbank is all in on Team USA.

spaceman_2020

87 points and no comments? Strange!

haunter

My usual HN observation:

- If points are higher than comments: the submission is very niche or highly technical that a lot of people can appreciate but only a few can meaningful comment. See right now here 120 vs 14

- If comments are higher than points or levitating towards 1:1 ratio: casual topic or flamewar (politics). See the DOGE post on the front page now, 1340 vs 2131

That being said I think "healthy" posts have a 1.5:1 - 2:1 ratio

simion314

why strange, you really wanted to see my comment "nice article with good research"? but I am not a hardware guy so it might be filled with mistakes.