Skip to content(if available)orjump to list(if available)

The Most Mario Colors

The Most Mario Colors

86 comments

·January 21, 2025

CobrastanJorji

This is awesome and exactly the sort of useless but valuable study I come here for. Good job.

Also, I think you should analyze the frequency of color choices when Mario is the first word or not the first word of the title. I want to see whether M is red for "Super Mario X", "Mario X", or "Other Other Mario Other Other". I imagine it might be tempting to make the very first letter red, or maybe make the first "big" letter red.

mantia

Not sure about “should” but I definitely “could” do this.

jf

I vote "should"

Ylpertnodi

British "should", or American "should"?

kqr

I found a what I think is a flaw in the methodology and started to write a comment, but it turned into its own article. If you've ever wondered what the entropy of the Mario colour sequence is, let's find out! https://entropicthoughts.com/the-most-mario-colour-revisited

flexagoon

Wow, your website's design (and content) really remind me of Gwern.net or LessWrong. Were those the main inspiration?

mantia

You could, if you wanted to, add 13.47 million sales of 3D World to your chart. That might change some numbers, but not in your favor.

“As of March 2024, Bowser's Fury has sold 13.47 million units worldwide in association with the Switch version of 3D World, making it one of the best-selling games on the console.”

mantia

Also your Sparks of Hope number only represents physical copies sold in the first week in Japan only. It’s about 3 million now.

Might be worth double-checking your numbers across the board.

kqr

Drat! I did not intend for this to become a long quest for accuracy. I do welcome the corrections, though.

pinkmuffinere

I read this, and then a couple others of your posts -- I love your approach and interests, internet stranger! When I "grow up" I want to be more like you

edit: I'm also a big fan of your obvious love and devotion to your wife :)

carb

I'm curious why you have your post set to be posted on 2025-06-24 instead today? Is that to maintain a post schedule?

kqr

Yes, I write in intense bursts, and I have previously gotten feedback from RSS subscribers that it's hard to keep up when long periods of silence are followed by a dump of ten articles in two weeks. So I try to splay publish times a bit.

(Also far from all of the articles in that six-month queue are finished, but far along enough that I've picked a publish date for them.)

mwcz

I found what I think is a flaw in your methodology: you did not use the Mario font in your post.

null

[deleted]

smrq

The color of the last letter for Odyssey would probably be pink :) There's a moon in Metro where you have to spell out Mario's name with the title letters, and the O is pink there. https://www.mariowiki.com/Letter_(Super_Mario_Odyssey)

mantia

Million percent! I had this conversation with a few people before posting. In my heart, it’s pink.

cgriswald

This was fun. I'd like to see some analysis regarding where "Mario" appears in the title (either in terms of words or characters) and how that affects the color sequence. Glancing briefly at the list, it appears the M is more likely to be blue when it is preceded by "Super" (but not always).

gavindean90

Specifically the Super needs to have individualized colors per letter. Where S is red M cannot be and therefore is blue instead.

mantia

Super Mario World has a green M. (multicolor Super)

Super Mario Ball has a red M. (yellow Super) Super Mario 3D World and Land have a red M. (multicolor Super) Super Mario Odyssey has a red M. (white Super)

Super Mario 64 has a blue M. (multicolor Super) Super Mario Galaxy and 2 have a blue M. (white Super)

Not much rhyme or reason, I think!

j2kun

This was fun. People should do fun things more often :)

jle17

> The Mario franchise has two distinct logo styles. The first began with the Mario Bros. arcade game and is mostly used for side-scrolling Super Mario Bros. games, though not all of those games use that style. The second is a multicolor polygonal style, and though it’s primarily used for 3D Mario adventures now, it was introduced with Super Mario World.

I believe the polygonal logo style was first used by super mario bros. 3 (at least for the shape, it didn't have the alternating colors yet as it was all blue). It isn't on the nes boxes but it is on the title screen and on the famicom box.

segasaturn

A is the most consistent (green), but you can see how over time the M settled into being red and almost never deviates from that now. Great post!

hinkley

I am a little disturbed by how many Mario games that is. Wow.

tmiku

You might enjoy this video that attempts to rigorously define how many "mainline" Mario games there are among the hundreds that exist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XejJ6PzPtEw

arcxi

there has been a revision/sequel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ddmjcy3lEs

also the results of these findings could be combined, from the glimpse of it for the "super mario" series specifically BGYRG is a more prevalent color sequence, while RGYBG is more common among sports spin-offs

zonkerdonker

Ohhh thats not even all of them! Be prepared... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_featurin...

CM30

Damn, according to that list there are 382 games in the series so far, without counting the various spinoffs and sub series where Mario doesn't play a starring role (Yoshi, Donkey Kong Country, Wario Land, WarioWare, Princess Peach Showtime, etc).

Yeah, a full list of games in the series analysed like this would go on for something like 500 pages.

dimator

I heard somewhere that globally, Mario is more recognizable by people than Mickey mouse.

I've gone back and forth on whether I believe that, but what a amazing concept if it's true! What do you think?

LeonidasXIV

I wouldn't be surprised. Probably because Mickey hasn't starred in anything relevant for a large part of the younger generation in many years, maybe even decades. Disney doesn't really make movies staring Mickey anymore. Mickey in games exists but is also rare and usually these games are fairly niche.

layer8

I’d be surprised if it isn’t true. Mickey Mouse hasn’t been very present anymore outside of Kingdom Hearts and the Disney parks.

travisgriggs

Agreed. Pretty epic franchise.

Someone at Disney is reading this and deciding they’ve still got many many StarWars and Marvel movies they can make.

geraldwhen

Mario teaches typing, Mario is missing. Where are my other Mario’s?

This data is very incomplete, and thus I conclude that there are very many Mario’s missing.

toast0

This analysis was limited to titles with polygon and multicolor logos.

Mario is missing is just regular text. Mario teaches typing is multicolor, but not the polygon style.

geraldwhen

The box art is regular text, but immediately in game after starting the cartridge you get polygonal multicolored text.

GBYRG

Title screen seems more authoritative than box art, which during the NES/SNES era was quite wild. (See megaman)

fenomas

It's great how the most niche of posts still find their aficionados <3

iforgot22

Oh, that explains Hotel Mario being missing.

Sxubas

Just my 2 cents on the research:

Might be cool to see how scores changes if we weight in by game popularity. I was thinking of just whatever score generated by a gpt function, or by play data in game libraries/trackers.

On another topic, it makes me wonder how they actually decide what colors should go in the name and how much time they spend on it. Do they have the data laid out like this? Or they just wing it?

Thanks for the read, I enjoyed it

eastbound

Do you think it’s up to the designer of the day? Does it follow intuitive designer patterns that even Nintendo hasn’t explicitly spelled out internally?

bitwize

The polygonal letters first appeared in Super Mario Bros. 3, on the title screen and Japanese box art, but they were monochromatically blue.

mantia

It’s true! Though a multicolor logo for the Super Mario Bros. 3 title screen does appear on the SNES and GBA (Super Mario Advance) version, which is super fun but I didn’t include it because it wasn’t on the box art that way.

LukeShu

Oh dang, I just emailed you saying that! Sorry for the noise :(

ChuckMcM

Still waiting for the Feynman Lectures on Mario Physics to drop :-).

I thought this was a great way to practice data analysis, I wonder if you could correlate it with registered trademarks from Nintendo. Specifically do they always trademark the whole name? Or are there specific 'Mario' trademarks in the specific color scheme.

The other thing that I pondered was if this was a scheme to detect/delay counterfeiters of Mario game cartridges. Back in the day there were a lot of dodgy game carts on the "used" market. Coming out with a different color ordering would force the counterfeiters to take some time to change their artwork before shipping their goods.

GrantMoyer

> Still waiting for the Feynman Lectures on Mario Physics to drop :-).

Wait no longer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcI1kUvVMYM

modeless

I'd say this one is even more relevant: https://youtu.be/YsXCVsDFiXA

shermantanktop

Almost 4 hours long? The wall I hit was my patience.