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AI Brad Pitt dupes French woman out of €830k

neilv

Summary: First, criminals preying upon someone apparently vulnerable (after cancer, divorce, and who knows what else). Then, as if that wasn't more than enough for one person, a bunch of Internet people, and even some brand marketers, publicly mocking and harassing the victim.

scarmig

Your timeline there is a bit off.

When she met this Brad Pitt, she was still married. She started sending money to him; got divorced; got a settlement of €775,000; and proceeded to give all of that as well to Brad Pitt.

Still worthy of sympathy, but no one would question mockery of a married man who started chatting with a fake Angelina Jolie on social media, started sending her money, got divorced, and then gave the rest of his assets to her.

HumblyTossed

> ... , but no one would question mockery of a married man who started chatting with a fake Angelina Jolie ...

I would hope that noone would mock this person. Anyone doing this clearly has some issues and should not be mocked but encouraged to seek help.

When did so many people become assholes?

Clubber

I think the issue I have with it is she divorced her (assumedly) loyal husband, then took (assumedly) half his money in court only to give to another man she was planning on cheating with. Then the schadenfreude cherry on top was it was all a scam and she was too gullible or stupid to know. She deserves to be mocked. If nothing else for what she did to her family.

beretguy

How why would anybody give money to Brad Pitt? Dude's rich enough already.

scarmig

There are always explanations for why the invented persona needs cash, and the scammer also presents sophisticated evidence chains for it. Most people are susceptible to it; see the massive success of spear phishing in corporate environments.

squarefoot

As would be Nigerian princes. Seems just a variation of the same old scam.

hleszek

He pretended he was sick and his money was frozen because of his divorce and needed a lot of money for expensive operations which failed one after another.

johnisgood

Which makes her more of a ...?

seydor

She was paying for his divorce with jolie. She got 770k euros from her own divorce. Not exactly a poor person

A fool and her money are easily parted. You can have sympathy for her while admitting that she s a fool. Not even the first or second one.

Moral of the story is "don't be a fool" because there is no chance that scammers will disappeared

chongli

No, the moral of the story is that technology is an exponentially-growing force multiplier for scammers.

Back in the hunter-gatherer days, you could be a fool and still survive by relying on your kinship group to protect you and take care of you. They would find ways to let you contribute to the group without needing to be highly intelligent and skillful.

Now we are living in a techno-jungle swarming with parasites and predators. Let your guard down for even a moment and you could lose everything. Oh, and when the cognitive decline that comes with age catches up to you? You might as well walk out onto the virtual ice floe and unplug yourself from the internet.

kiba

Probably true that we are all vulnerable to scams in one way or another, especially as we age. Some of us has more mockable vulnerability, but one way or another it's just a bug in human software.

Even if we aren't vulnerable to scams, we may be vulnerable to falling for false rumors, fake news, myths, or just things that sounds true but turn out to be false.

"Don't be a fool" isn't really much of a lesson, but it is useful to know there are fake Brad Pitt milling around potentially preying on vulnerable women.

Gualdrapo

I don't see how that validates the response of the public mocking and harassing them.

paul7986

Unfortunately for her the mocking is to teach other fools not to be one!

fn-mote

The lack of morality in the parent post discourages me.

locallost

Everyone is a fool in some aspect of life. This person was bad with money and fraud, but maybe she is or was an extremely talented artist. Maybe you understand money and fraud, but are otherwise talentless. Neither of you are fools.

throwawaysleep

Wrecking your life is substantially worse than not being a good artist.

fooker

> She got 770k euros from her own divorce.

The ex husband must be laughing his ass off at this!

ttoinou

She is creating a bad buzz to get helped from detectives, lawyers, media, the public etc. The price she pays is being mocked at, yes

daveguy

The lack of empathy of the responses here saddens me. I sincerely hope none of your parents or grandparents are scammed. And I hope you are all educating your loved ones on the threat of scams in this new era when AI fakes are so easy and realistic.

ttoinou

Criticising, being realistic, seeing through lies and being empathic are not exclusive. We can do all of those things at the same time.

The fakes were not realistic here, it didnt need any AI and most people who are mocking her here read more about the topic than you apparently

f1shy

Mmm more your ex wife… she was 53, which is pretty much in the age range of HN

daveguy

Yeah, she's not the best poster-girl for the problem, apparently getting a divorce for her scammer, and having a daughter who warned her after she was duped (much more difficult to accept due to sunk cost and embarrassment).

But her relative age just highlights how you don't have to be 95 to fall for these scams when fakes are getting so good. I should have said, I hope you are warning and educating your parents, grandparents, spouses, children.

Please inform your loved ones why it's important to never trust unsolicited communication.

2OEH8eoCRo0

They lack empathy because doing something about this would likely harm their salary or create regulation.

paxys

The article is getting clicks because of "AI" in the title but this is a very generic scam. There's no part of it that wasn't done before AI a million times.

seydor

I am beginning to doubt my five Instagram girlfriends

f1shy

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extr

Lol this article doesn't even include the best part which were the pictures the scammer was sending. It's like 10 low res photos of Brad Pitt in a hospital bed, I think some of them lifted from movies. I don't even think AI really played an important role here.

Edit: Here https://x.com/PopBase/status/1879197931129163782

nuancebydefault

It's the sad part, not the "best"

wnevets

calling that AI is very generous.

exogeny

What's the "best part" of someone with both HIV and cancer who is going through a divorce getting robbed out of every cent to their name and then mocked on the Internet?

Yeah, hilarious. Ell oh ell oh ell.

extr

It's possible for things to be both sad and funny from different perspectives. Hope that helps.

ttoinou

We french are specialists of the tragi-comique

exogeny

Don't backtrack now. It's only funny to you because you don't know her. I don't find everyday sociopathy as amusing myself.

jlarocco

The best part is that there are people so gullible to fall for things like this.

These are the people clicking internet advertisements and funding the web.

ukd1

This isn't the timeline. She decided to get divorced midway through this scam, and used the proceeds to help Brad.

whycome

Which part is the best part then?

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jcarrano

It would make for an interesting plot twist if her ex was behind the scam.

racl101

Why would anyone give a celeb money? Especially a high profile one like Brad Pitt.

Like I get if you believed that Josh Hartnett or Pauly Shore is asking you for money. They haven't worked much in the last decade.

But Brad Pitt? That's almost as bad as Ryan Reynolds or Kevin Hart asking you for money cause they're in so many movies.

whycome

As someone who is actually friends with Brad Pitt on Facebook and have given him money, it’s because he wants to know that he’s still a normal person. He wants to connect with real people. He’s tired of the Hollywood world. And he also says he lost lots of his money in the fires. And Jennifer Anniston took all his money. But he’s also too ashamed to let others know. He only trusts that information to a real person not tied to Hollywood.

brabel

We should start a Fundme campaign to help poor Brad!

racl101

> And Jennifer Anniston took all his money.

wait what? If anything I expect Angelina to take his money but not so much that he would be broke.

Guess I know Jack.

thomasmg

The probability that any person would give Brad Pitt money is nearly zero. But obviously it is not zero! We already know that some people believe weird things.

The problem (for the scammer) is to find out, efficiently, _who_ would give (a lot of) money. In the past, they sent email that had typos - I think on purpose: the probability that someone would send money is higher if he doesn't detect that.

With AI, this got _much_ easier, and scales much better: you can generate very convincing text, images, videos and interact with many, many potential victims. The story itself, it seems, doesn't need to be too convincing.

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moi2388

“She has since told a popular French YouTube show that she was not "crazy or a moron"

She might indeed not be crazy..

ternnoburn

Nor a moron.

Solitary people who are groomed and love bombed aren't idiots, they are victims. Abuse of this type works so often because people have weakened defenses due to other events in their life. We're hard wired as a species to value social cohesion and social approvals.

fkyoureadthedoc

> Anne's daughter, now 22, told TF1 she tried to "get her mother to see reason" for over a year but that her mother was too excited. "It hurt to see how naive she was being," she said.

At least a little bit moron, also was married while this was ongoing

ternnoburn

I don't think you realize just how extensively abuse can break your brain.

Edit: I'm talking about emotional and psychological abuse. Separating you from people who care for you, gaslighting you, building dependency, etc are all scamming tactics that are absolutely psychological and emotional abuse.

ttoinou

Should society remove citizen’s rights to those helpless people then ? Who should watch over them and be responsible for their acts ?

bhandziuk

This isn't a "rights" issue. It's taking a step back and seeing that what happened to her could, to a degree, happen to any of us and she's not deserving of mockery.

blargey

We deny people's natural right to be defrauded by outlawing fraud, yes.

dvngnt_

sending someone you never met 700k is dumb. she can be a victim too. and you said 'break your brain' which only proves that she wasn't dealing with a full deck.

wruza

"I understand the comic effect but we're talking about a woman in her 50s who got conned by deepfakes and AI which your parents and grandparents would be incapable to spot," one popular post on X read.

This ignores the fact that her daughter tried to explain it to her for over a year.

To me it seriously raises a question, what should we do with or think about people who deemed capable and are 50+ “YoE” but still unable to real life or a little bit of logic, basically.

barbazoo

Be that as it may but we're not making that person "smarter" by shitting on them. Many people just aren't very "smart" or whatever you want to call it but it's people that are taking advantage of them that are at fault here. If this was someone with a cognitive disability we wouldn't make fun of it (I hope) and the line is sometimes blurry.

cowmix

It is always shocking to me that someone with those kinds of resources can get duped like that -- with little checks and balances.

thiscatis

From Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/comments/1i1uvjq/scam...

    French start up Find My Scammer carried out the investigation pro bono as the victim has literally no money left in her account, not even a cent.

    Victim had no experience whatsoever with social media before creating an Instagram account in 2023 to share holiday pictures.

    Victim was targeted after liking pictures related to Brad Pitt on Instagram.

    Victim was in the midst of a divorce before being contacted by scammer.

    Victim was groomed for months and months by scammer passing themselves as Pitt's mother, agent, etc, in addition to Pitt himself, using American phone numbers, fake articles, etc.

    Victim had no knowledge of technologies such as deepfake.

    Victim was lulled into a sense of security as grooming lasted for many months before she was asked to send money for the first time, thinking that such a scam would be more immediate.

    Victim has HIV and cancer, tried to end her life three times.

    French TV program which revealed the story accused of manipulating the subject matter and misrepresent facts to encourage ridicule against victim, has been pulled off all platforms.

    Scammer found in Benin, was tricked into clicking a link which gave start up full access to his computer, phone, information, living address, etc. Crypto wallet where the stolen money is stored found. All information in the hands of authorities investigating the crime.

    Scammer has over 30 victims. Also poses as fake Keanu Reeves.

sebdufbeau

An important point in the story: while she was contacted by the scammers when she was still married, it is after the divorce that she received most of the money that was eventually scammed - over €700k

doctoboggan

> Crypto wallet where the stolen money is stored found. All information in the hands of authorities investigating the crime.

This is great news, and I hope Anne and the other victims can see at least some of their money returned.

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anon22981

Do such links really work so that it’s enough to load the page on your browser and you are done?

_ink_

Depends. Mostly not. But Pegasus spy software was put on iPhones via silent SMS. So those targets didn't even need to click a link. All they really had to do was owning an iPhone. And made their number known.

spiderfarmer

My grandpa has a saying that translates to something: "The money bag never hangs in front of the same house for more than three generations".

This is just one of the reasons why.

markus_zhang

Yep, the Chinese has exactly the same saying -- even the same number of generations.

I hope she gets some $$ back though.

poisonborz

Let's just ignore thousands of European noble families and wealthy industrial tycoon dynasties.

f1shy

Any examples? I’m not really aware.

ternnoburn

"This" -- do you mean theft and abuse are the reasons why? Or debilitating illness (HIV/Cancer).

spidersenses

It's not an uncommon expression on managing generational wealth. I've frequently encountered it as:

"The first generation makes it, the second generation spends it, and the third generation blows it."

throwawaysleep

She was tricked. The money wasn't physically taken. She lost the money because, unlike she claims, she is indeed a moron.

markus_zhang

They desperately need some comfort or excitement and the scammer provided it to her. Sad.

PaulHoule

Love is blind.

f1shy

In Spanish when somebody says love is blind, another will quickly add “and deaf and stupid/idiot“

ralfd

Her daughter should have done more to safe her own inheritance. Like, if you safe 800K Dollar in convincing your mother she is not romanced by Brad Pitt, I would handle that as a full time job!

That said this is increasingly common and especially elder people can be easily scammed with AI.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1df081i/my_mother_an...

> Reading through all of this, apparently lots of elderly people having "relationships" with celebrities. Adding my mother to the mix. She's been corresponding with "Elon Musk" for at least six months. She's not even that old, she's only 67...but extremely gullible.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/15sls1v/my_dad_think...

> My Dad thinks Elon Musk is texting him and has lost over $10K - Help!

I don’t know how we can deal with that in the future. Financial regulation to make it easier that people at risk have more banking safe guards and their children/spouses can supervise accounts better? Or hope it fixes itself when the 4Chan generation who grew up with Nigerian prince scams replaces boomers?

jokethrowaway

She didn't earn that money. The bigger scam was acted against the wealthy entrepreneur who saw a big chunk of his money going to his ex-wife.

Divorce laws are ridiculous, you are better off not getting married and using a surrogate mother.

ttoinou

To be fair there are different ways to get married in france and some contracts allow for separation of wealth, sort of

pizzuh

This is heartbreaking

deadbabe

Consider that if someone secretly had our modern AI tech 10-15 years ago, they could have easily scammed a lot of people out of money in romance scams.

Now consider that the future isn’t equally distributed and some people are literally still living at the level of 10-15 years ago. Wow, there is a lot of opportunity for scammers out there, though the window will be closing every year as the world catches up, and no one will trust images, videos and voices anymore.

wruza

Photoshop existed 10-15 years ago. TFA has no photos but I’m pretty sure even my paint.net imaging skills would be enough to trick such irrational person.

the world catches up, and no one will trust images, videos and voices anymore

The person in spotlight didn’t trust her daughter who tried to “catch her up” for a year. This is not the case of a single person with no source of critical thinking.

throwawaysleep

If you look at the images from this case, they weren't AI. They could have been done in Microsoft Paint.

bilbo0s

Not even scammers.

This is essentially the future of AI models that emulate male sex workers. The "romance scam" is basically what they'll do. Only they will dispense with the Brad Pitt likenesses, because they will have enough information to come up with AI faces and bodies meticulously calculated to maximally interest the, um, "client".

Oh, and they will be legal.