Did that Colorado station sign say gas for only $1.69? Yes, it did
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·December 11, 2025davidw
ge96
what a beautiful line, look at it go up
zobzu
no change in trend though.
and cheaper gas is basically trump policies.
i think we should ban gas and let other countries take over (with gas) /s
jeffbee
Cheaper gas is a thing Trump says but basically nothing the administration has done is leading to cheap gas. It's the inevitable result of demand declines and decades of domestic production capacity increases.
Interestingly one policy Trump actually controls: he has cut the rate of adding stocks to the Strategic Petroleum Reserve in half. From Dec '24 to Dec '25 they added only 19 million barrels, compared to the 40 million barrels added in the prior year, despite Trump campaigning on filling the SPR "right to the top". The last, and only, administration that has topped off the SPR was Obama.
Noaidi
Ah...remember the days of 350.org? How cute that seems now.
Do you all realize how catastrophic this is?
Workaccount2
When it actually snowed in winter? Yes, in fact I do remember that.
Noaidi
Weather is not climate.
breakingrules3
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renewiltord
Here in San Francisco, I just defer to the experts on the subject: environmentalists. They say that nuclear energy is bad, and they oppose wind and solar projects, infill housing, and public transit. But in order to not be too much of a monoculture, I also see if the counterculture guys agree so I check the Burning Man guys and they oppose all that and also geothermal energy.
So given that, I am thankful that President Trump Is following the lead of environmentalists.
Workaccount2
People complain about gas prices despite gas being so outrageously cheap compared to everything else. Gas first ticked over $1.79 in April 2004, not adjusted for inflation.[1]
Just goes to show that most people are parrots and not actually using their head when stating arguments.
[1]https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/leafhandler.ashx?f=m&n=pet...
ramesh31
It really is remarkable compared to any other consumer good. My 2002 Corolla has cost $20 to fill up since it was brand new. The benefits of empire I guess.
Sevii
The US went from being a net importer to a net exporter during that time period. Makes a big difference in prices.
jeffbee
Retail motor fuel prices have been roughly $2-$5, in current terms, forever.
xnx
Gas price hasn't changed much in 50 years, and is about as cheap as it has ever been: https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/gasoline-prices-adjust...
sieabahlpark
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Hasz
That Suncor refinery is in a bit of a fight with the state over environmental pollution. Cheap gas certainly helps improve the political situation for that particular refinery.
https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/26/colorado-suncor-water-dis...
Rover222
My brain insists on reading that title as "gas for gays for only $1.69"
Would be an interesting promo, I guess.
ugh123
How do you verify it?!
jasonthorsness
And here I am in Washington State still over $4
dawnerd
Price of gas pretty much follows cost of living.
breakingrules3
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alephnerd
Additionally, ICE sales have started recovering over the past few years now that EV subsidizes have started being phased out in most markets [0].
Even in China, most consumers "despite buying more EVs, are less interested in how their cars are powered, and more in their digital lifestyle integration" [0].
I like EVs but I think that in most markets they're at the same point today that hybrid cars were in the 2010s - proven, but still a difficult financial sell in the short term due to high upfront costs for consumers.
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> Which seems odd in an article claiming the global tide has turned against EVs
Becuase China is not the world. Most other markets have seen either a slowdown or a reversal in EV sales - especially following the reduction of EV purchase subsidizes in most markets.
It also highlights the fact that a large portion of customers are indifferent about ecological sentiment, and that EVs can outpace ICE either on upfront cost or net-new features (in China's case, EVs tended to have better features than ICE cars sold domestically).
Even Chinese automotive players (primarily SOEs that couldn't compete with private sector BYD) have been taking advantage of this market shift, become major ICE car exporters now [1].
[0] - https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/combustion-engine-ca...
[1] - https://www.reuters.com/investigations/china-floods-world-wi...
Workaccount2
As climate change effects become undeniable and older hard heads die off, people will less and less be interested in fossil fuels.
Oil and Gas doesn't even want to make investments that trump is pushing, because all those green subsidies and programs will likely come roaring back in a few years. The government may be gerrymandered and senate locked into a tight battle between red and blue, but consumer sentiment is purely popular vote. The trend is pretty clear that consumers want to get away from fossil fuels.
ZeroGravitas
That quote says Chinese buyers are buying more EVs. Which seems odd in an article claiming the global tide has turned against EVs.
It's like some weird 3rd-hand sour grapes. Yes they bought the EV but they don't care about it being an EV! Which matters, for reasons...
zobzu
china stats reporting is worse than US stats - impossible to trust - it'll say everything and nothing every time.
bombcar
EVs seem to run $10-15k more than the equivalent ICE - I tried everything I could but couldn't make it worthwhile due to constraints on what is available and inability to get the subsidies.
Rover222
The lightly-used EV market is where it's at, for now.
alephnerd
That's why it's at the same point as Hybrids were 15 years ago. Yet Hybrids have now largely replacing traditional ICE. I think a similar trend will happen for EVs as well within 10-15 years once the current generation of cars are replaced.
jeffbee
Meanwhile, in civilized nations, the motor fuel tax is often twice that.
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Noaidi
Yes, as it should be. Currently at Lake Mead with temperatures 15 degrees above average, and Washington state is getting a foot of rain, and the midwest is about to have a 40-50 degree temperature swing. This is climate change, and we are too late.
Noaidi
"And it’s because Buc-ee’s is happy to break even at their massive gas pump array in Johnstown so long as you also walk inside and overspend on beef jerky, neck pillows and beaver-themed sleepwear."
So gas is cheaper, but you are spending more. This is not a story about gas prices, this is a story of consumer manipulation, dark patterns, monopolistic practices, etc.
mbg721
Enh, Buc-ee's isn't a monopoly so much as it is a tourist trap. As dark patterns go, that seems pretty mild to me.
t1234s
I've noticed its faster to get the full bucees experience with a tesla instead of trying to park a normal car hit the bathrooms, get drinks and junk food then get in line for gas. Also as a side note they are the only places I've seen mercedes benz charging stations that look mostly abandoned. Last time I was there people were using those spots to park ICE vehicles.
Noaidi
I said "monopolistic practices", I did not say it was a monopoly.
"In 2019, shortly after Buc-ee's opened their first store in Alabama, the company was sued for "setting unfair pump prices", because they were selling gasoline to the customers for less money than it costs to buy and transport it to a retail outlet. While it is common within the United States for larger gas station chains to use a pricing strategy where gas is used as a loss leader to draw customers and encourage the sale of other goods, the practice is banned under Alabama state law."
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thr0waw3y
> This is not a story about gas prices, this is a story of consumer manipulation, dark patterns, monopolistic practices, etc.
Meh. Snacks are expensive at every gas station; it's the market-decided price of convenience, not "monopolistic practices". Just get gas cheaper at Buccees and then get snacks cheaper at your nearby market if you want to optimize for price, nobody is stopping the money-conscientous consumer from doing that.
Meanwhile... https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/