Maestro Technology Sells Used SSD Drives as New
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·November 12, 2025Syzygies
observationist
You can also remove sharpie writing using sharpies and a wet wipe - write over and wipe while its still wet. The dry pigment will dissolve in the solvent in the fresh ink.
doubled112
My favourite trick is to write over Sharpie with a dry erase marker and erase it all.
nekusar
https://www.amazon.com/Janlaugh-Resistant-Laboratory-Permane...
Alcohol/solvent resistant markers.
hexbin010
But are they genuine and unused? !
realusername
They can do it but they likely won't bother at scale.
nubinetwork
I bought a stack of WD gold drives several years ago that had several thousand hours on them as well. I believe I got those off Newegg. When I asked, they said something about initial testing, but why didn't they reset the counters before selling them? Who knows.
toast0
> I bought a stack of WD gold drives several years ago that had several thousand hours on them as well. I believe I got those off Newegg. When I asked, they said something about initial testing, but why didn't they reset the counters before selling them? Who knows.
Thousands of hours doesn't pass the smell test. There's no way a specific SSD goes through months of testing prior to sale. A couple of hours seems reasonable though. And I'd rather it not be easy to reset the counters, so they don't reset the counters after testing during manufacturing/burn-in.
LeifCarrotson
It's crazy to me that rsync.net is buying mission-critical enterprise drives on Amazon.
I don't buy drives on Amazon for my 9 year old's laptop because of the rampant fraud and counterfeiting, I'm shocked that they're trusted for any business use-cases by anyone moderately savvy. I'm even more shocked that the takeaway is to blame the individual seller, rather than the marketplace that makes it possible.
epistasis
First two lines of the article:
>At rsync.net we have trusted suppliers with verified supply chains and a long history of providing reliable service.
>However, from time to time, it is expedient to purchase parts from Amazon - something we do with care and suspicion.
That seems like a very reasonable and non-crazy approach to using Amazon.
0x1ch
This is how we operate at my job. We go through our trusted and reliable vendor, who gets us good pricing but doesn't always control shipping times. If it's urgent, Amazon will be delivered within 48 hrs.
greenavocado
As I pointed out in another post if you are using ZFS RAID Z2 you can use literal used garbage hard drives safely without risking data loss.
ZFS helped me discover that my motherboard SATA chip can't handle 6 drives; I had to purchase a cheap Chinese PCI Express SATA controller to communicate with my drives reliably and error-free.
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dsr_
Not for special VDEVs, which is the explicit purpose here.
2OEH8eoCRo0
I'd be more worried about a supply chain attack with malicious devices.
Aurornis
> I'm shocked that they're trusted for any business use-cases by anyone moderately savvy.
I buy drives on Amazon all the time. I check them all. Never had any problems.
The mistake they made was buying not from Amazon, but from "Maestro Technology" listing on Amazon. If you understand that Amazon is a marketplace and you take 10 seconds to read who you're buying from, it's not a problem.
Amazon returns are also extremely easy. I once gambled on a sketchy seller and received a bad product (not computer related). A couple clicks and it was on its way back for a refund.
The problems with inventory commingling are virtually a thing of the past. I went through the process of selling a product on Amazon and understanding their evolved inventory labeling and commingling procedures so I'm not worried. Many of the tech community are anchored to news articles from years ago, though.
If you have a highly trusted vendor who can deliver at great prices and have products in stock that show up at your door when you need them, then use that. For the rest of us, using Amazon to buy common parts isn't really the problem that it's made out to be in HN comments. I think a lot of people here only understand Amazon through the occasional article that makes it to the top of HN and they don't understand what it's really like because they've been too scared to use it for years.
esafak
Marketplaces only work when the participants maintain a reputation. The buyer here is doing his part.
See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45896707 (HDD shortage)
greenavocado
I buy used enterprise hard drives that have been pushed hard. My current biggest NAS runs six used 14 terabyte enterprise hard drives and three have failed so far within a year. Each time I was able to get a warranty replacement and the replacement was in much better condition than the original ones I had. Zero data loss because of ZFS RAID Z2. I was able to measure the condition of the surface of the platters and other useful metadata using Victoria https://hdd.by/victoria/ included on Hiren's BootCD PE.
iberator
Which manfucaturer is the best and worst one?
abanana
> blame the individual seller, rather than the marketplace
I'd have thought the fraud problems from "commingling" were well-enough known by now to avoid wanting to blame any specific Amazon Marketplace vendor, but perhaps not.
monocasa
I mean, if you're a storage business, hopefully you've designed your architecture such that you assume drives will go bad, so you characterize the models of drive to make sure that not all the copies are on one manufacturer, and then you can take liberties finding the cheapest storage on the market. This only comes back to bite you when you didn't account for (because you didn't know) that there was decreased longevity, so your TCO calculation was off and you might not make as much money.
Szpadel
from time to time your trusted supplier might be out of stock and you need drivers quickly
even backblaze bought drives in supermarket when there was HDD shortage
khernandezrt
Whats stopping a more clever company from resetting the smart data on an ssd and reselling?
p1necone
Can you flash fake SMART data to drives? I suspect that's exactly what Maestro will start doing now (although it's possible it's not worth the effort for the small number of customers who will actually check this stuff).
lgats
does amazon still do inventory co-mingling ?
alwa
That was my first thought too. Apparently they’re “phasing it out” by “the end of this year” [0]
I did not know, per that article, that Amazon had for some time now offered motivated third-party sellers a means to avoid commingling by applying a “fulfillment network SKU” barcode to their goods. And that they estimate merchants spend $600mm a year on that type of “restickering.” Expensive, but possible.
[0] https://www.geekwire.com/2025/after-years-of-backlash-amazon...
walterbell
From the article:
we purchased four SSD parts from "Maestro Technology" for use in a ZFS "special" metadata device.. even though the four SSDs that we typically attach as a "special" device to a zpool are a small adjunct to a 60 drive zpool, losing the "special" device means losing the entire zpool. For this reason it is vitally important that the SSD parts we start with are in perfect, new, non-worn condition - it could be a catastrophe if their lifetime was diminished.
"Other than returning the four parts for a refund (which we did) and documenting this behavior here, our only other recourse was to guarantee that these four specific parts were never sold as new again:"
Alas, one can completely remove Sharpie writing from metal with 99% isopropyl alcohol. Did they make a better choice? This looks like Sharpie writing to me.