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People Are People, or Why I Don't Want to Be a Landlord

munchler

I understand that the author doesn’t want to get caught up in the details of any particular online drama, but without more concrete information (about either Bluesky or their own project), I find this too abstract to be insightful. YMMV, of course.

oddevan

That's fair! I'd give more details about Smolblog <https://smolblog.com/> if the project was anywhere approaching "done".

tptacek

But it's really not even clear in this post what you're reacting to. What's the pressure you're trying to address? What does it mean to be a "landlord" here? What are you doing instead?

jp57

Agree.

I have heard BlueSky described as a kind of self-made ghetto for the most terminally online, left-wing remnants of pre-Elon Twitter. If that's true then it suggests some shape to the distribution of possible dustups, but I spend no time there (or on X, or Mastodon) I don't really know for sure.

dsr_

That's... not how people familiar with BlueSky would describe it.

I would say it's where the people who realized that Twitter wasn't going to recover fled in search of as similar an experience as possible, and mostly got it, right down to a centralized moderation system that is being co-opted to the operating company's desires.

georgeburdell

Yes but the problem is that the people most strongly opposed to Elon left, while everyone else either embraced the change, or grumbled and carried on.

I remember the opposite thing, politically, happening when Reddit clamped down on a number of rightwing -isms (and -philias) and then a site called Voat got created as the “free speech” alternative, except it only attracted the right wingers who saw the -isms as their core beliefs, and so the whole site was just that. Eventually Voat shut down, having failed to bring enough new to the table to attract regular, fairly politically indifferent folks

PakG1

What you just said is completely compatible with what the parent comment said. I would say you're saying a 95% match to the parent while subtracting only the political undertones.

jp57

All you've done is take the description I provided and packed all the politics into the word "recover".

jrowen

Framing it as landlords and serfs is such a tell of the culture of the community. What about curators?

What are they looking for? Anything-goes anarchy? This idea that any kind of centralized direction or authority is evil just leads to a chaotic mess.

jeffbee

The substance of this article must have been included by tacit reference. Without reference to that substance (which I do not have), the article seems pointless.

AlienRobot

If I was a landlord, I'd make a list of political terms, and use a simple SQL regex to shadowban all accounts that have any of those terms in their bios. That's probably the only way to fix social media. Sometimes I wish I was a landlord just to try and do this.

Cockbrand

This has been solved a long while ago, for better or for worse.

See e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_(politics) or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algospeak

neutronicus

If you have a landlord, that entity will be getting a lot of very angry correspondence from your tenants forthwith.

Tade0

+have LLMs argue with the shadowbanned comments lest they catch on.

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andrewmcwatters

> Every relationship that lasts long enough or goes deep enough eventually hits a point where expectations meet reality.

I think about this all the time and it’s nice to see someone explicitly say it.

It is, of course, a part of life, but it is a phenomenon to look out for that governs all pf your most valuable relationships.

lysace

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tptacek

If you're concerned, the thing to do is to email hn@yc. The guidelines specifically ask us not to do what you did here, which is to suggest publicly on the thread that something is amiss.

usernamed7

or flag it

tern

I found it interesting, and I'm surprised it got flagged

oddevan

Honestly, I'm as surprised as you are.

lysace

You edited your comment. It initially included something about not buying upvotes.

oddevan

Yeah, I edited that out because it was addressing something you didn't actually say. Trying to keep the discourse above-board.