Romhack.ing's Internet Archive Mirror No Longer Available
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·August 23, 2025derefr
It's especially bizarre that ROMhacks would be suppressed from IA, when IA has played host to plain-old 100%-infringing ROMs for years now, with nobody seeming to care.
(I will not directly link to these collections, for the fates are cruel. I'll just say that these IA collections are 'complete' per-console ROM collection archives created by "GoodMerge", a ROM collection validation and repacking tool — and are named very intuitively given that.)
CBMPET2001
Per the post, the takedowns are due to false positive malware flags, not because of copyright takedowns. So I guess the unmodified, 100% genuine ROMs don't trip the malware detection, whereas the mods do?
VoidWhisperer
The mention that it is the patchers for the ROMs that AVs/Antimalware are flagging, presumably due to them employing similar methods to those employed by malware.
waltbosz
I half read that but didn't absorb it fully. I wonder what about a ROM matches the signature of malware.
jonhohle
It’s probably too long form and stream of consciousness, but a few weeks ago I looked at GameShark “codes” and what they look like in when we having matching decompiled code and can we decompile a GameShark modded function. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h4398rWE1kg
Short answer is that no compiler would produce similar code and it’s probably a red flag that there’s odd dead code, jumps, or places where padding or nops are expected but there is code.
Rom hacks are more in depth, but often play the same tricks because they need to fit into possibly sections they shouldn’t exist in (say, code in BSS), encode instructions in a way that known compilers wouldn’t, long jumps to odd places.
shazbotter
A ROM does not. A ROMhack, however, might. A ROMhack injects code into a ROM, the same way a virus or Trojan might inject code into an executable.
duskwuff
IA has always been a little haphazard with regards to copyright. Console ROMs aren't the half of it; they have an absolutely massive collection of old movies and TV shows.
boomboomsubban
IA works the same way as much of the internet, they allow users to upload whatever and respond to DMCA claims.
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waltbosz
Did they host the full ROMs or patch files? Seems to me the patches would be safe to host ... but I could still see legal action taken even if the patches were legal and non-infringeing.
lemoncookiechip
ROMs, both modded and unmodded. For years, the most reliable way to get Fire Red (U) (Squirrels), which is one of the most used base Pokemon ROMs for modding is the Archive. Luckily it's still there with 1,574,966 views.
sapphicsnail
I don't see any ROMs and the ToS say no uploading modified or unmodified ROMS.
nativeit
How expensive is it to run these archives through a zipping software with encryption as part of the mirroring process? I don't have any real context to know how large these file archives are...
estimator7292
A password protected zip file is just as suspicious to AVs as the original rom
cantrevealname
In that case, how about using extremely trivial encryption (eg., XOR every byte with 0x3B) and on the website give a one-line perl command to decrypt. Now it's random data and not a known format (like a password-protected zip file).
Of course, any AV company could add a rule to their signature checking to undo the XOR if they were targeting the romhack.ing site, but it sounds like they aren't being targeted but just getting caught up in the dragnet.
de6u99er
Blog post says at the bottom: >We are open to alternative solutions and support on the matter.
sapphicsnail
Is this site relating to romhacking.net? It seems very similar. I know they only hosted patches.
silicon5
The founder of romhacking.net announced it was shutting down in August 2024 due to some kind of internal drama. Romhack.ing was established as a spiritual successor shortly thereafter. However, romhacking.net appears to have avoided shutdown after all, and is still operating and accepting submissions as of August 2025.
jart
None of this make sense.
Did they check to see if their service has been compromised?
Why would Windows Defender flag GameBoy ROMs as malware?
Does a GameBoy ROMs website really mirror all 45 petabytes of Internet Archive?
Hi everyone. Jason Scott, software curator at the internet archive.
I'm sure I'll get in touch with these folks to understand details, but I just wanted to make it known that if you do encounter what you think are false spam or malware issues, you can always email me directly at jscott at archive.org.