Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026
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·June 24, 2025eviks
Xelbair
anecdotal evidence, but even my non-IT friends prefer to try out Linux than upgrade to w11. Meanwhile most corporate already swapped to w11.
53% is a huge failure on MS part, but that's what happens when you design OS to be a bad copy of your competition.
eviks
Interesting, how many of your friends stuck with Linux after trying out?
throwcarsales
Just one data point, but I have gone full Linux Mint on almost all my computers. Being a MS guy since 1991 at 7 years old. Remember being in aw at windows 95 at 11-12. Avoided apples my whole life.
Seeing how much better my friends apple computers ran than my modern windows computers, I just went full Linux. Loving it. Telling my parents and friends to consider it instead of buying a new computer to replace the 'slow one'.
makeitdouble
You might be seeing it in the same lens as macos for instance, but windows' model is fundamentaly different and that deadline is only for specific cases (that's why they can play the "sign up for backup and we'll expand your time" game)
For instance Enterprise LTSC version of Windows 10 is officially supported until 2031.
A ton of the devices inside these 53% have no need to move away from win 10 in any urgent way.
eviks
I'm seeing it in the lens of the stated goal mentioned in the article "Microsoft is still sticking to its guns in promoting Windows 11 upgrades"
d0100
I'm still on a i7 4770k, waiting for non-bugged intel CPU's to launch, and upgrading to Win11 always fails
NegativeK
If your org has a fiscal year that begins in the middle of the calendar year (July 1), there might not have been the budget to do the upgrade until months away.
Compounded with general upgrade procrastination...
airstrike
In order to make that claim you'd need to compare it with rates in past upgrade cycles to see if it's worse or better.
speedgoose
I am not sure. The world is different. Perhaps Windows 11 is doing better than Windows Vista or Windows Me, but does it matter?
paulkrush
Microsoft announced that you can extend Windows 10 support if you enroll in Microsoft Backup or purchase “Microsoft Points.” Just think if they get printer manufacturers in on this, just to keep your ink cartridges “authentic” and up to date, and you can keep using Windows 10. And so on...
It’s interesting/unsettling to extrapolate a dystopian future from these moves. Keiichi Matsuda’s short film “Hyper-Reality”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJg02ivYzSs
goosedragons
You don't purchase Microsoft points. You can purchase extra support with 1000 Microsoft points that you can easily get for free in like a week clicking on some links on Bing.
timewizard
So help microsoft rip off it's advertising partners in exchange for the allowance to use software you're already using.
It's astonishing this corporation exists.
mystified5016
That's paying for them with your time. You'd be better off spending that time earning money for yourself instead of Microsoft's ad network
KronisLV
I have to say that after switching to Windows 11, I don't hate it as much as I thought I would. I'm still a bit upset that they took away vertical taskbars from us, but some things like multi-GPU support is better than in Windows 10: https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/what-is-ruining-dual-gpu-setups
On the other hand, for whatever reason Windows 11 right now refuses to install updates (I think the logs complained about their own web view components being unavailable last I checked, which is wrong because they definitely are there), which is kind of embarrassing.
With news of many games also performing better on Linux distros nowadays like https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/06/games-run-faster-on-s... it feels like vendor lock (certain anti-cheat and software not running on anything else) and familiarity is increasingly what's keeping folks on the platform.
While I've also seen my friends struggling to get an Arch install just right, it's nice to know that if I'm willing to say goodbye to some games (e.g. looking at https://www.protondb.com) and software (I actually like the Windows version of SourceTree and tools like WinSCP and MobaXTerm and even Notepad++), then I could go back to using Linux Mint with Cinnamon as my daily driver again - pretty pleasant setup.
discostrings
Missing vertical taskbar is probably the most egregious omission, but it's not so much they took it away as it is they created versions of a number of Windows Explorer components in a higher-level technology without implementing half the features and shipping it with 5x the number of bugs. I at least weekly (and often daily) run into issues with taskbar icons overlapping one another, menus not coming up when clicked, the tray icons breaking, etc.
Same story with navigating the file system--the new implementation has a multitude of issues, including getting into a state where clicks when selecting files only works below a certain invisible horizontal line in the window, windows not refreshing when files been added/removed, trying to rename a file you just copied being an exercise in frustration with the view refreshing and exiting the rename state 5 - 10 seconds after the copy... it's really frustrating software that's a full few tiers down from the quality standard set by Windows 10 and previous versions.
It's gotten slightly better since the initial Windows 11 release, but it still feels like pre-release quality software. I was hoping they'd get it up to release quality and add the important features back by the sunset of Windows 10, but it looks like Microsoft really doesn't care about the quality of the experience of using their UI.
If it was only the missing vertical taskbar as a design decision that would be one thing, but I think that's just the very obvious tip of an iceberg of lack of care, quality, resourcing, and skill. They don't add it back because they know in their current state they're not going to do it well, and the money's in dreaming up new ways to show pages of trash news stories. What if someone put the taskbar on the left side of the screen and they couldn't see the clickbait brainrot of widgets under it and Microsoft lost $.0003?
princevegeta89
Not sure man, I just want a version of Microsoft Windows without all the telemetry and the ads and the aggressive control Microsoft has on the system via updates.
Time and again they keep changing the default browser, throwing ads into Start Menu, blocking specific applications (such as Chrome etc. Bad example because Chrome is an evil junkyard. Imagine them blocking Google Drive one day because they want you to use OneDrive).
In general WSL is great but the entire Windows system feels so outdated and full of duplicate layers thrown upon each other with modern UIs on top of old APIs with the old UIs not even deleted and taken care of.
The productivity and cleanliness of OS X keeps convincing me again and again to stick to the Macs as a platform - in my POV this is one of the few things Apple has gotten right (with Apple CPUs), after decades.
mjevans
Now having used an OSX laptop at work, my main pain points are how _everything_ seems to be different for the sake of being different (keeping legacy Macintosh-isms).
My main pain points:
* Keyboard combinations, can't 'theme' them to just work like every other popular platform.
* Docking stations + Multi-Monitors. TONS broken here. Worst of all is how there's no way to just FIX the dock to a single screen's bottom. Though if you pick Left or Right it'll stay there and not jump between screens.
* Per task focus / lists / menus. I like the WM to fuse the taskbar to each 'parent' level task window, NOT a screen edge. Similarly, the WM shouldn't group window switching per task (which makes work among a group of tasks super tedious).
PS: if there's a good way of fixing these on a corp-managed device please let me know. I've failed to find some obvious search result with ~15 years of web search history of others having the same pain points. With any 'solutions' now obsolete as internal component names / control schema completely renamed / redesigned over time, while seemingly not fixing any of the pain points.
princevegeta89
Make no mistake - it is not surprising for people to find UX issues on Macbooks. My main quirks that I hated and how I addressed them:
Note that the items below are based on my personal opinion only:
1. Finder always seemed to suck ass - been the same for 10+ years lol. You I use QSpace Pro as my full-time file explorer/manager.
2. Alt-Tab behavior also sucked for me -having to hold down controls and no thumbnail views....fixed with the AltTab app.
3. Can't control system volume when connected to an external monitor not made by Apple. Fixed with an app called SoundControl
4. Spotlight is lame and slow as hell - fixed with Alfred
5. No clipboard manager built-in - I use an app called Copy'Em Paste for this.
throwaway48476
An OS with electron components is just absurd. They laid off all the competent employees who knew how to write c++.
vel0city
They've been using webview components since 1997.
throwawaystress
I’m so glad you mentioned the vertical taskbars being taken away. There’s a feedback item on Microsoft’s forums that’s years old now and they still haven’t addressed it. It seems so weird that they took away this functionality that they’d had implemented for years, seemingly for no reason.
coderjames
> I'm still a bit upset that they took away vertical taskbars from us
After getting a new W11 laptop at work and discovering the removal of vertical taskbars (ridiculous on 16:9 monitors), that particular loss is specifically what keeps me from "upgrading" from W10. Windows Updates warns me that "certain features aren't available on Windows 11" without specifying which ones; finding that sane placement of my taskbar is one of them means I'm plenty willing to pay $30 for another year of security updates to get to keep W10.
corysama
I'd be happy to upgrade to 11 if they would let me. I'm running 10 on a powerful, expensive PC that 11 won't accept.
EvanAnderson
I've had nearly perfect success using the setup command line argument to install as "server". It says "Server" during the install but that's not what ends up being installed.
This has been patched out[0] of newer builds but a 24H2 install media will still work for an in-place upgrade.
[0] https://winaero.com/microsoft-has-patched-the-product-server...
thombles
Use rufus.ie to burn a USB that has the hardware restrictions removed. Works a treat IME.
anonymars
For now
Wistar
Did you check your BIOS settings to see if you can turn on the TPM? Worked for me on several circa 2018 custom built machines. The builder, Puget Systems, shipped the machines with the TPM turned off. With the TPM turned on, Win 11 installed without undue drama.
pipes
This is good advice, I discovered two of my PCs had tpms just disabled at bios level. Though in the end I've got so annoyed with the advertising I've moved one of them to Linux and the other will ditch windows too, eventually.
wesnerm2
Upgrading to Windows 11 is possible from an unsupported Windows 10 machine by adjusting a registry setting and downloading an ISO from Microsoft.
herf
The backup requirement shows a lot of self-awareness from Microsoft, but it's still too hard to migrate a Windows machine. Contrast with a new Mac, I wait a few hours, and all my stuff is identically copied over via the built-in tools, and it feels like the same machine. With Windows, preferences all over just don't really copy. I don't care about a few .docx files, I want hundreds of legacy apps and settings to be preserved. As it is, it's more than a week of work when you get a new PC.
internet2000
It’s silly games like this that justify piracy. If I can get the extended support in 2 minutes by changing the edition and reactivating OR by doing an hour worth of Bing searches with Adblock on to accumulate the points, what’s the difference to them? It’s all fake.
jakub_g
I bought my parents a Dell laptop in 2019/2020. It has 7th gen i3 so just below the Windows 11 threshold. The machine is in perfect shape as it's used a few times per month max for watching YouTube or some online banking, or occasional LibreOffice usage.
I don't want to generate electronic waste, what would you recommend? Installing Linux Mint?
Note: I'm far from my parents so can't do IT support.
Edit: also occasional HP scanner/printer usage.
s_ting765
Don't fix what's not broken. Get a cheap Raspberry Pi and configure pihole to block ads/malware for their home network.
1970-01-01
Install Win 11 anyway.
Bypass instructions are on YouTube, Reddit, Github, tech blogs, etc.
blibble
odds are they'll push out an update that requires a CPU feature not present on that CPU
then GP parents' machine will just bluescreen at boot with illegal instruction
sedatk
Too late, already switched to Fedora on my old machines because Win11 didn’t support them.
thanhhaimai
The only reason for me to ever boot into Windows is for gaming. As more and more games support SteamOS, it's increasingly tempting to just drop Windows altogether.
shaggie76
My Windows 7 laptop still seems to want security updates about once a week; maybe it's just Windows Defender and not kernel bugs but I find it interesting that MS still bothers.
idatum
Dang, I was almost motivated to figure out how to get Debian working on my old i5 Surface Laptop 1.
No way I'm tossing it since it works fine (even battery is decent still). But no way I'm spending time with Linux if Win10 will still get updates.
If I will really need another Windows device though, I'll just buy a cheap N100 device.
bell-cot
As the article's title notes, with strings attached.
dlachausse
Windows 10 came out almost 10 years ago and they offered a free upgrade to Windows 11. I know people love to hate on Microsoft, but they’ve done better than most technology companies when it comes to security updates here. You’re lucky to get even half of that length of support from most Android devices for example.
gpm
Windows 10 was marketed with the promise of being the "last version of windows" by microsoft employees. Personally I think they should be held to that promise, at least in so far as supporting it as long as they still support any other version of windows.
The upgrade to windows 11 is not free in so far as it doesn't support the hardware that people have.
octo888
> Windows 10 was marketed with the promise of being the "last version of windows" by microsoft employees
It was just that - marketing! To get a load of people to migrate to it, right? "Do it guys, it's the last one you'll need to do, we promise"
Trust Microsoft? Not even once
meowkit
It wasn’t marketed that way. It was a throwaway line that became a meme at Ignite back in 2015
It was meant to convey the change in delivery model for Windows updates.
Windows 10 and 11 are the same kernel from a CI/CD perspective, just run winver and see for yourself. The Win10 and Win11 paint jobs are not something the engineers have any power over.
GeekyBear
> I know people love to hate on Microsoft
People rag on a company that is trying to force you to use an online account to log onto your local PC?
Doesn't using Windows Backup to qualify for these extended Windows 10 security updates require that you purchase more than the default amount of cloud storage too?
hhh
they don’t force you to use an online account
sedatk
Win11 doesn’t support all hardware Win10 runs on. Free upgrade is meaningless in that sense.
justin66
> they offered a free upgrade to Windows 11
I wish. I have a completely capable machine that won't accept the upgrade, due to some completely artificial requirements MSFT built in.
bezier-curve
If we're comparing them to other software companies, what would be their fairest comparison? Is there another company that manages the overwhelming majority of client desktops around the world?
adastra22
Apple? Certainly in education and other sectors. Their support horizons are t as long.
charcircuit
Google with over 50% mobile os market share and they support each Android version for 3 years.
zanderwohl
> a free upgrade to Windows 11
My very expensive tower PC can't "up"grade because it doesn't have a TPM 2.0 module. So unless Microsoft plans to give me a new CPU (and new mobo) it's not free for many users.
derivagral
That free upgrade refuses to work with my hardware. I am glad they are continuing security, but they are literally forcing me to install another OS (as I understand the security difference).
arp242
I don't really blame Microsoft for stopping updates. That's fine. But they're also preventing anyone else from doing any updates.
And no one said the situation with Android devices is great.
> Microsoft's efforts do seem to be paying off (or, at least, some combination of Microsoft's efforts and Windows 10 PCs naturally aging out of the install base). While Windows 10 is still running on the majority of Windows PCs worldwide (about 53 percent, according to Statcounter's May 2025 data)
53% is huge mere months away from the end, and actually means that the efforts have resoundingly failed.