Telegram CEO: French intelligence head asked me to ban Romanian conservatives
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·May 18, 2025bigyabai
For context: 2024 Romanian election (Annulment)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Romanian_presidential_ele...
maximinus_thrax
As per tradition, just your regular Russian election interference, right on election day.
BTW, both candidates were conservatives.
https://en.iz.ru/en/1888293/2025-05-19/zakharova-responded-r...
immibis
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brink
For the thousandth time - yes objective reality exists, but this is a terrible idea because the core problem becomes; who gets to decide what objective reality is? And no, I'm not kidding. Some things seem obvious, but people tend to forget obvious things, especially during periods of mass psychosis.
immibis
I can tell you one thing: If Nazis have full rights and privileges, you will eventually end up in a world where the answer to "who gets to decide what objective reality is?" is "The Nazis". And they will not care that you think censorship is a bad idea.
bigyabai
I think that's a gullible worldview to demand when nearly every actual member of the Third Reich is dead or dying in 2025. You're kinda just profiling people to virtue signal, instead of letting their actions speak for themselves. Putin uses the same rhetoric to justify annexing Ukraine.
People don't like to hear this, but the majority of self-described "fascists" I've met in my life grew up. Their stupid worldview stemmed from a place of dissatisfaction, delusion, or a desire to get a reaction out of people. When you attack them outright, you feed into their fantasy that they're persecuted instead of just mentally ill.
immibis
When they grow up, they can use social media again.
bigyabai
They'll use the internet regardless, you never got to choose that for them. Hence, the problem.
Plus, you're still not looking at the shoe on the other foot. What happens to your witch-hunt when people justify annexing Crimea or Ukraine "because Nazism" and ridicule you for demanding patience? Do you honestly think the popular movement can tell the difference between right and wrong when propaganda is afoot?
French deny this, so I guess is true but more nuanced: https://x.com/francediplo/status/1924129503800127999
Anyway, the election was held and the pro-EU candidate won with a large margin and had one of the highest turnout in decades.
I was impressed by the Romanian counting and reporting. Apparently they were able published live participation numbers since they used tablets log people who came to vote and they had the full results in about 2 hours.
This is the website for it: https://prezenta.roaep.ro/prezidentiale18052025/?region=roma...
Fun fact, the winner is a mathematician who had perfect scores at the international mathematics olympiads in 1987 and 1988.
Here's his profile: https://x.com/francediplo/status/1924129503800127999