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Federal agencies continue terminating all funding to Harvard

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One of the organizations that got completely cut off is the Undiagnosed Diseases Network. Which brings together researchers across the country in to find cures to the rarest diseases. And it may just cease to exist, setnences people with rare diseases to die. This administration is responsible for abject evil because a university didn't swear fealty to a genocidal foreign government.

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justanotheratom

I’m confused. the declaration does not say anything about swearing fealty to a genocidal foreign government.

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jmclnx

So true and we get a front row seat watching the US slide into obscurity and eventually the US Dollar no longer a reserve currency.

When that happens eggs will cost $12,000 USD per dozen.

runlaszlorun

That's when I'll be launching my Eggs as a Service startup.

tmpz22

Don't worry we're increasing defense spending by 13% [1]. I suggest everyone read the linked source, its absolutely chilling.

[1]: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Fiscal...

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> For Defense spending, the President proposes an increase of 13 percent to $1.01 trillion for FY 2026; for Homeland Security, the Budget commits a historic $175 billion investment to, at long last, fully secure our border.

rpmisms

More chilling that the white house still uses WordPress.

igor47

That's really not more chilling. I recommend actually reading the document. There are multi billion dollar cuts to IT programs and CISA/cyber security infrastructure, along with massive cuts to basic research, EPA protections and toxic site cleanup, and basic social services, the list goes on. Instead we're plowing extra money into military spending, but because the defense budget is already so bloated it amounts to a small percentage increase there, and huge percentage decreases in everything else.

tmpz22

No. Chilling that despite making massive cuts everywhere (read the source) they put most of the savings into the military budget.

defrost

WordPress seems advanced for a government body whose head of health actively promotes for himself and his grandchildren swimming downstream from sewerage to boost the immune system.

landl0rd

I voted for Trump. I think the Harvard funding thing is stupid. I don't really want money going to Israel.

However, I don't think this is chilling. I would prefer more defense spending to ensure the military inferiority of China. And I would prefer to cut most social spending from the federal level and relegate it to the local level.

This is pretty consistent with most people on the right. This is not a feature of the magas. Please don't act like it's strange or alien.

Obviously social spending cuts will never happen sadly. All we'll get is more spending. The right will raise the defense budget and fail to stop recapture and overcharging by defense primes through the broken cost-plus model. The left will raise social spending. We all end up deeper in debt.

blackguardx

The only presidents that made any attempt to balance the budget in the last 40 years were members of the Democratic party. The perception of "right = fiscally responsible" and "left = reckless spending" just isn't accurate.

Braxton1980

>The left will raise social spending. We all end up deeper in debt.

But

>I would prefer more defense spending to ensure the military inferiority of China

atmavatar

> I would prefer more defense spending to ensure the military inferiority of China.

How much do you believe each country spends on defense?

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest...

Based on that, the US spends more than the remainder of the top 10 countries combined, most of which are allies.

The US could cut its defense budget in half and still be spending more than China and Russia (spots 2 and 3) combined.

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jknoepfler

It's exactly what the entire campaign platform you voted for was: unprincipled, random bullshit designed to stoke an angry, bigoted, ignorant base.

I can respect principled patriotism and fiscal conservativism, but voting for an icon of xenophobia, illiteracy, and graft and expecting anything but that is kinda...

Also if you actually gave a shit about containing China, it would probably be in your best interests to vote for a candidate who doesn't base their campaign on alienating the entire rest of the free Western world while simultaneously denigrating and disrespecting the armed services... but what do I know.

tmpz22

Right, if you assume competency and hard work from the administration involved. Seriously, many of the cuts reference returning power to the states, does that mean it will be returned in its entirety as block grants, or as non-corporate tax cuts? Based on past performance I doubt they'll accomplish either yet the money and programs and federal jobs will still be gone. Federal jobs many considered to be good jobs and even the biggest cynic would admit provided -some- public good (e.g. National Parks NSF, NHS, many others).

How many times is woke (and related words) mentioned? Is dragging culture war BS into the budgeting process really the way forward. In the limited descriptions that they gave, was dedicating so much headspace to nebulous buzzwords really a good use of tax payer money? Are we really machete'ing giant programs and saying its all because of woke?

Green New Scam was plastered everywhere, likely referencing Biden's infrastructure bill where ~80% of funds were earmarked for conservative districts (it was the only way to pass the bill!).

I'm not here to disparage the way you vote or your beliefs and certainly not what you think is best for the country, but taken within the context of Trumps ~5 years in political office, does this really look like a good thing?

mjevans

You might not be aware. After we grew up that word became somewhere vaguely in the same classification of 'radioactive' as the N word people from the 1940s used to use all the time.

It kind of tints movies like Idiocracy (a movie I fear increasingly describes a possible future rather than a satirical one) that made a joke out of someone who was only moderately not-smart as just the last 4 letters rather than all 6.

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Braxton1980

What evidence do you have of political indoctrination or social activism?

uhhhd

That Harvard chose to settle this lawsuit rather than litigate it. https://www.kasowitz.com/media/unxcnvpo/harvard-complaint.pd...

Braxton1980

How is that evidence when entities settle suits all the time to avoid the cost and time of litigation?

firesteelrain

[1] https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/6/4/dei-faculty-hiri...

“ Harvard’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences will stop requiring a diversity, inclusion, and belonging statement as part of its faculty hiring process”

Professor Randall Kennedy of Harvard Law School described these statements as "ideological pledges of allegiance" that pressure candidates to conform to specific viewpoints, potentially discouraging those with differing perspectives

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Too,_Am_Harvard

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Harvard

[4] https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/11/1/pro-palestine-l...

[5] https://www.jdjournal.com/2024/07/05/critics-blast-harvard-t...

[6] https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2025/04/harvard-renames-dive...

[7] https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/05/28/harvard-university-neut...

For instance, computer science professor Harry Lewis observed that the course catalog contains over 100 classes referencing "social justice" and around 80 each mentioning "oppression" or "liberation,"

[8] https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/02/18/harvar...

[9] https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/1/8/lewis-reaping-wh...

Those are some examples but clearly they have failed to address anti semitism on their campus. Harvard also appears to be an enabler of social activism

Braxton1980

[8,9 dup] checked the course catalog and there are classes on topics that I think most would consider social activism.

The CS professor just running a word search is a poor experiment but this doesn't negate your point.

[1] The DEI intitive is social activism [2] True but not an official school policy but a professor

[3] Independent organization [4] Article on protests and mentions faculty support them [5-6] Accusations [7] True

These are good examples. What about indoctrination though and is it wrong for Harvard to be social activists?

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markoman

What exactly are the 'unsafe anti-Semitic actions' that Harvard Univ has committed? Is this whole thing about how Harvard hasn't suppressed the free speech rights of its students as they protested the wholesale bombing of Gaza? Its not like Harvard is rife with far-right activists denying the Holocaust and such. I can't imagine that Harvard wouldn't win their case quite roundly. Law firms & universities have to stop bowing to the wanna-be dictator.

uhhhd

Why not try to do the minimum amount of research before complaining about it online? Here's a complaint from a recent lawsuit by a collection of Jewish Harvard students against the university. It's a good starting point. https://www.kasowitz.com/media/unxcnvpo/harvard-complaint.pd...

uhhhd

If you prefer a summary:

Key Allegations: 1. Hostile Environment: The complaint describes a campus atmosphere where pro-Hamas students and faculty have organized demonstrations featuring antisemitic slogans and calls for violence against Jews and Israel. These protests have reportedly disrupted classes and occupied campus spaces, creating an environment of fear and intimidation for Jewish students. 2. Administrative Inaction: Despite numerous complaints and reports of antisemitic incidents, the university administration is accused of failing to take appropriate disciplinary actions against perpetrators. The plaintiffs argue that this inaction amounts to deliberate indifference, exacerbating the hostile environment. 3. Double Standards: The lawsuit claims that Harvard enforces its anti-discrimination policies selectively, protecting other minority groups while neglecting the safety and rights of Jewish students. This alleged inconsistency is presented as evidence of institutional bias. 4. Faculty Conduct: Certain faculty members are accused of promoting antisemitic rhetoric in their teachings and public statements, further contributing to the hostile climate on campus. 5. Failure to Uphold Policies: The plaintiffs contend that Harvard has not adhered to its own stated policies on discrimination and harassment, thereby breaching contractual obligations to its students.

Legal Claims: • Violation of Title VI: The university is accused of failing to prevent discrimination based on race, color, or national origin, as mandated by federal law. • Breach of Contract: By not enforcing its anti-discrimination policies, Harvard is alleged to have breached its contractual commitments to provide a safe educational environment. • Breach of the Implied Covenant of Good Faith and Fair Dealing: The plaintiffs argue that the university’s actions, or lack thereof, violate the fundamental expectations of fairness and protection owed to students.

Braxton1980

These protests were mostly against the state of Israel which isn't a violation of Title IX.I know there were specific instances of Anti-Semitism, which were wrong and should be punished, but is there evidence Harvard didn't take action for those?

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My concern is that Anti-Zionism is being conflated with Anti-Semitism by the complainants in order to

1. Bolster their case wrongfully by increasing the number of incidents

2. Defend the Israeli government

3. Expand Anti-Semitism to include Anti-Zionism in court decisions making future criticism of Israel dangerous

For example the complaint you linked to opens with

".. Since October 7, 2023, when Hamas terrorists invaded Israel and slaughtered, tortured, raped, burned, and mutilated 1,200 people—including infants, children, and the elderly"

Unnecessary details to the situation because if their claims against Harvard are valid the source of the anti-Semitism is irrelevant (edit: meaning anger at Israel's response to the attack)

This means it was placed at the beginning of the complaint to illicit an emotional reaction/reminder of the horrific event.

Edit: Just to add that if a person is criticizing Israel and a Jewish person feels threatened or avoids campus because of it that's not anti-Semitism.

biimugan

That's fine, but allegations in a law suit aren't prima facie evidence of anything. Especially when the text of that law suit is filled with political invective (calling protesting students and faculty "uncontrolled antisemitic mobs" and so forth).

There's a very easy determination to be made here about which students are or are not being victimized. If my knowledge of current events is still accurate, not a single pro-Israel student has been extra-judicially kidnapped and imprisoned. Pro-Israel Jewish students very well may feel victimized or scared. But put into perspective, I can imagine that pro-Palestinian students feel it much more so.

pasttense01

The President of Harvard University is a Jew. Do you really think he is going to allow Harvard to engage in anti-Jewish policies?

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AlecSchueler

> protested the wholesale bombing of Gaza?

The rhetoric at the top nowadays is that Israel == the Jewish people, and the will of Israel == the needs of the Jews. To criticise their policy is anti-Semitic.

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Herring

“Differing political opinions” is a dealbreaker for liberals, but NOT for conservatives. And conservatives don’t know this, they just love to take advantage - a Supreme Court seat here, a presidency there… One fine day liberals will wake up and decide they’ve had enough, and conservatives will be so surprised.

anonnon

Harvard currently has a $52 billion endowment on which it pays no tax: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/26/business/harvard-endowmen...

Why are progressives not bothered more by this?

WalterGR

Because they know what an endowment is, how they're used, what a 501(c)(3) nonprofit is, and very generally the tax rules around such nonprofits.

I can provide links if you'd like to learn. I'm just on mobile right now and it's a pain.

It would help, though, if you could describe in what way people should be bothered.

anonnon

> what a 501(c)(3) nonprofit

In the case of Harvard and many other institutions, it's a tax-dodge, and nothing more. Same thing with non-profit hospitals whose administrators pay themselves seven-figure salaries.

wasabi991011

According to the article you linked:

> ... the National Association of College and University Business Officers issues a report on ... where the money [endowments] generate ends up. ... About 48 percent of investment income went to student aid ... about a quarter of the money ... went to academic programs and maintaining facilities.

To claim it's a "tax dodge, and nothing more" without elaborating is absurd.

I won't argue further with someone more interested in inflammatory statements than actually discussing.

WalterGR

> it's a tax-dodge, and nothing more. Same thing with non-profit hospitals whose administrators pay themselves seven-figure salaries.

What do you mean by tax dodge, in this context?

How familiar are you with taxes? Off the top of my head, people who work for non-profits have to pay withholdings and income taxes, just like the rest of us. Generally, 'business' expenses for both non-profit and for-profit organizations (whether a McDonalds, university, church) are tax-deductible. Tax rules differ between states, but being a non-profit doesn't automatically exempt you from collecting and forwarding other forms of tax, such as sales tax.

rsynnott

... Are you suggesting that Harvard is a for-profit enterprise? Do you think it pays dividends or something?

Braxton1980

Ok and?

What does this article have to do with nonprofits in general?

Also the board of the nonprofit sets salaries for admin

tptacek

They should use their endowment to mitigate this. People should be concerned about that. But (1) other schools aren't in that position, and (2) whether or not the Harvard admin makes the right calls, we either are or aren't funding cancer research; we should be angry at anybody compromising that.

pasttense01

They will to a certain extent, but the substantial majority of the funds are restricted (for example buy art for the museum).

tptacek

They have over $10Bn in unrestricted endowments, and both the unrestricted and restricted funds grow with the market.

biimugan

They are bothered by it. But the anti-liberal, extra-judicial, law-ignoring method this administration is levying against Harvard is also being levied against many, many other progressive priorities and interests worth even more than taxes on a $52B trust fund.

southernplaces7

That's absolutely worth a serious debate, but that endowment falls well within existing laws for how universities are allowed to accumulate and govern their finances.

You know what doesn't fall within the rubric of existing laws (or things that anyone who respect the rule of law and controlled government should be comfortable with)? Trump unilaterally using the federal agencies under his control to vengefully, punitively attack a major public institution just because he wants it to do whatever his latest personal tantrum has dictated.

His whimsical funding cuts are indeed illegal (1) and even if you agree with the government not funding certain institutions in certain ways, i'd call it a bad fucking idea to claim that the president should break his government's own federal laws to do so.

1 https://www.thefire.org/news/faq-responding-common-questions...

krapp

Progressives are busy being bothered by other things like transgender and autistic people being demonized, womens' rights being repealed, resegregation, the return of child labor, Nazis being cool apparently, the chilling effect of right-wing oppression and censorship causing the erasure of gay, female and non-white people from history and the public record, book bans and the whole "kidnapping political dissidents to foreign concentration camps" thing. But sure, we can add "rich assholes don't pay enough taxes" to the pile if you want.

Better question is why aren't conservatives bothered by any of this?

hello_moto

People have issues with Universities for many years regardless of the Presidents.

People have screamed that Universities tuition fees are too expensive for the RoI. It’s a separate bipartisan issue.

spinarrets

Who says progressives aren't bothered by this?

Every leftist I know believes that education should be free and universally accessible. That holding capital (especially with the intent to make more capital, which is what an endowment is) is morally wrong. And that we should tax wealthy people and corporations to fund things like healthcare and education.

Constructing a strawman like this (inventing a position that progressives do not hold) and then trying to point out the hippocracy in that position is classic logical fallacy territory.

ahazred8ta

Do you know of ANY countries where universities have to pay capital gains taxes on their endowments?

yieldcrv

75 years ago, universities were cautious about accepting Federal funds due to this specific possibility. It worked out. Not it isn't.

Federal funds comes with strings attached and administrations change. If the usefulness of the work has proven itself now, then other sources can fund it. This won't really be controversial or require grandstanding or debate soon, because it will be the status quo.

Yes, its also disruptive to many programs to cut off funding in this way. I think decoupling is for the better. This university daytraded tax free up to a $50bn endowment, for a rainy day. They just need to get liquid and plug the budget gap, which they are starting to do. Donors and other sources can be leveraged too.

spinarrets

On the flip side, accepting this funding has allowed for a lot of research to progress. Sometimes those strings attached still lead to a net good. Obviously, you should always have a plan for "what if this source of funding goes to zero, suddenly", and be prepared to walk away if needs be. But it's hard to imagine what university research would be like if they didn't accept Federal funding. (Much, much weaker, I'd imagine.)

yieldcrv

> If the usefulness of the work has proven itself now, then other sources can fund it.

beej71

Let's remember that China funds all kinds of research, not just the research with guaranteed profit. (Indeed, private industry already funds research with guaranteed profit.)

aaomidi

There’s a lot of work that is “useful” but the return on investment is not direct, but rather indirect.

For example I don’t remember the detail exactly but this professors insistence to study extremophiles has directly translated to many improvements in medicine.

spinarrets

What other sources? You can't just hand wave like that, make a specific proposal.

AlotOfReading

75 years ago was right in the middle of McCarthyism, when universities were not only taking federal GI Bill money hand over fist, but instituting loyalty pledges and political review boards for staff and students. I don't think anyone needed to contemplate theoretical financial levers when they had much more straightforward examples immediately at hand.

programjames

Tuition money doesn't fund research, so how is the GI Bill relevant?

AlotOfReading

It's an example of universities accepting federal funds. I didn't actually know the breakdown of federal university funding in the 1950s, so I had to look it up. For separately budgeted research, federal funds were ~70% of dollars according to a 1954 NSF survey. For total expenditures, they were 42%. A bit over half of that went to medical and agricultural research.