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The last RadioShack in Maryland is closing

evanmoran

I recently took my son on a "GameStop run" to sell our super old PS4. He's 7 and never been to a store with video games before. So we jumped in the car and arrived at the store about 30 min north of Seattle just as the sun was setting. In the window were two kids in Taekwondo uniforms. Both were super nice to a younger kid and immediately let him play and gave him pro tips on how to do slide turns. We then sold the console for $50 and he immediately wanted to use the money to buy a giant Eevee squishmallow that was next to the checkout line. What can you do? :) Now he tells me the story as "remember that time we bought my Eevee and those karate kids gave me a quarter".

Having real places is still awesome. I know the finances don't really scale, but shoutout to Lynnwood GameStop for keeping it real out there.

And RIP RadioShack. You always had a hard drive when we needed one to reinstall windows during a lan party. holds up a glass

dylan604

There are many retail places that I know that are just unable to keep up with ever increasing rent. There is only so much a retailer can do with the prices of their products before they lose customers. Losing customers only worsens the pressure on paying rent.

Consumers say they lament the loss of brick and mortar stores, yet their actions of only buying online shows that isn't really that big of a loss to them. It's such a weird situation for a retailer. I don't envy their situation.

Shog9

Even before "online" was an option, folks were fleeing high prices in high rent districts for cheaper goods on the outskirts. Heck, I remember folks banding together to get in on bulk buys decades ago, when that was neither convenient nor quick. High rent will kill retail in an area no matter what; if online also gets you faster and easier, then who would choose anything else?

SoftTalker

There was a local camera shop in my town, this was back in the 1980s. I went in to look at some cameras and the salesman mentioned how they were having problems because people would come in and look at the cameras and get advice and then go order them from 47th Street Photo or Adorama or one of the other big mail-order places that advertised in photography magazines.

Not a new phenomenon.

dylan604

What it suggest to me is that delivery fees are too cheap. Amazon subsidizing shipping to the point customers expect same-day as an option on something as insignificant than it was just a simple button click. No other thought given to the actual cost. Where going to the store probably means putting on clothes, driving somewhere, dealing with other humans, before driving back. The original online purchase meant possibly saving taxes, but now everyone collects taxes so no savings there. If there was a tipping point of being able to save brick&mortar, COVID pushed it over to the non-recoverable side.

glimshe

If retail is dying, how can rents keep going up?

dylan604

The landlords do not care what type of tenants are renting (for the most part). They just rent to a new retail customer that thinks they can survive. I'm sure there's a 6 degrees to Spirit Halloween to compete with Bacon.

darknavi

I have the fondest teenage memories waiting for Halo midnight releases.

For Halo 3 we had LAN parties in the back of pick-up trucks after rushing down to GameCrazy (Hollywood Video's game store chain which was attached on the side) after middle school in Canyon Park.

Halo Reach was the Lynnwood GameStop after a friend begged his parents to let him stay out late that night.

So many friends and memories. I miss those energetic meet-ups!

tombert

Sad to see that the last two in Orlando are dead now too.

I miss Radio Shack, particularly when they were a bit more "component based". As a general electronics store, they were almost always strictly worse than any of the big box stores, but if you needed something like a resistor or individual LEDs, it was great to be able to be able to drive over there and find something. I live in NYC now, and fortunately we still have Micro Center which is still fun, though I do worry that it might go the way of Fry's Electronics soon enough.

I understand it, it's really hard to compete with Amazon in today's environment, and I'm not judging anyone for using Amazon instead of buying from a store, I buy online too, and fundamentally these are for-profit businesses and I don't feel any obligation to give them charity.

Still, seeing Radio Shack and Fry's dying does make me a little sad. When I first moved to Dallas, one of my favorite things to do on the weekend was go to Fry's, look around the store, and buy a cheap DVD of some anime that I hadn't heard of.

hosh

I remember a story I heard about Microcenter. It was started in my hometown (Columbus, OH) by a Radio Shack store manager. When PCs were coming out, the store manager kept putting those PCs up at the front of the store. The district manager would come back and make him put it in the back. This went on for a bit until the store manager quit, took his best sales guy, and opened up Microcenter at the mall next door, selling PCs. They eventually took over the entire mall, before moving to another part of town, and then expanding to other towns. By the time Radio Shack figured out where things were going, things were too late.

I didn't know this years later, watching Young Sheldon ... that Incredible Universe was Tandy's attempt to get into the consumer electronics when Radio Shack's profit started falling, and that Tandy has a whole (very profitable) leather company. My SCA friends tend to know a lot more about Tandy Leather than they do about Radio Shack.

Fry's Electronics closed here in the west part of Phoenix, several years ago. Their shelves were starting to get bare and were selling things from consignment. It took a while for them to die, and I finally found out why: they were having trouble getting credit to buy inventory.

flyinghamster

> Fry's Electronics closed here in the west part of Phoenix, several years ago. Their shelves were starting to get bare and were selling things from consignment. It took a while for them to die, and I finally found out why: they were having trouble getting credit to buy inventory.

I was going to do some of my 2019 Christmas shopping at the one and only Fry's in the Chicago area, but I walked inside and it looked like a bomb had gone off. Nothing was organized, lots of empty shelves, the cafe was closed, and I got a serious case of the heebie-jeebies and hightailed it out of there.

Google Street View shows it as it was in August 2019. As far as I know, the building is empty now.

And then there was TigerDirect, but that's a separate rant. I used to have three major computer shops within driving distance, but it's down to one now with MicroCenter.

tombert

> Fry's Electronics closed here in the west part of Phoenix, several years ago. Their shelves were starting to get bare and were selling things from consignment. It took a while for them to die, and I finally found out why: they were having trouble getting credit to buy inventory.

In 2019, I was in San Jose for a business trip, and I was excited that there was a Fry's Electronics within walking distance of my hotel, so after work one day I walked over to it.

It was one of the most surreal experiences of my life. I went in there, and it was almost completely empty. Very few workers, most of the shelves had absolutely nothing on them, there were barely any workers. The walls that usually had a bunch of TVs were completely bare, they managed to still have a full shelf of PlayStation Classics, and like one little basket of USB cables.

I genuinely thought they might have forgotten to lock the front door after closing, and that I was accidentally trespassing, but nope: there was a person behind the register and I was able to buy a flash drive.

CommieBobDole

For what I can only assume are obscure financial reasons, Fry's kept their stores open for like a year after they'd effectively gone out of business.

jcranmer

> I live in NYC now, and fortunately we still have Micro Center which is still fun, though I do worry that it might go the way of Fry's Electronics soon enough.

When Fry's died during (not because of) the pandemic, basically half the comments on articles were "oh no, what about Micro Center?" to which the immediate response was invariably "they're all completely packed" (partially due to the pandemic meaning everyone wanted better computer gear for WFH). During the height of the GPU shortage, it was often said that your best chance of getting a GPU was going to the nearest Micro Center. On all of my more recent trips, Micro Center has seemed to do pretty strong business.

Somehow, Micro Center does seem to have found a strong niche that makes it survive as a brick-and-mortar store in an increasingly online store (hell, Micro Center's website is pretty notorious for looking like a 90's webstore). Part of that is probably knowledgeable salespeople (something Fry's was known for lacking). And I think there's also a savvy psychological rationale behind its expansion policy--its stores always come across as just a bit too small, and its locations too few, but the flip side is that you don't have cavernous spaces you need to fill (like Fry's did).

soylentcola

Can confirm. Finally got the GPU for my new PC in 2020 by (first) showing up at Microcenter on days when deliveries were expected, then eventually joining a discord where people posted daily updates when stock actually showed up (once I got tired of driving a half hour there and back a few times).

In the end, a helpful discord member was already at the store, purchased a GPU for me, and held it until I could get there and buy it off him. Due to the shortage there was no risk of him stuck holding the "bag" but it was a huge favor from my end. Wasn't scalping but I still threw in an extra $20 just for helping out.

macNchz

> I live in NYC now, and fortunately we still have Micro Center which is still fun, though I do worry that it might go the way of Fry's Electronics soon enough.

There are actually five in the metro area: Brooklyn, Queens, NJ, LI, and Yonkers. I live in biking distance of the Brooklyn store and drive past (stop at) the Yonkers one pretty frequently and find they’re both usually quite busy, so hopefully they’ll stick around.

I make a point of trying to buy from them because I value having a place nearby that employs actual purchasing staff so I don’t have to sort through junk and counterfeit products, and because I like having a place where I can deal in person, have things same day, return without shipping etc.

SJC_Hacker

Its not just Amazon. Amazon's electronics catalog isn't even that great compared online retailers like Mouser, DigiKey and NewEgg for PC parts.

anyfoo

Yeah. I rarely, if ever, buy electronics components on Amazon. It's almost exclusively Mouser for me.

It has the added advantage that I can export the order lists as XML, to keep a little bit of an inventory. I think every electronics hobbyist knows how you tend to very quickly forget what components that you have on hand, from the lowest resistor to entire FPGA dev boards.

ryandrake

Sometimes you just want a resistor, but when you buy online, you generally have to buy them by the thousand, and then find a place to store the other 999 of them in your house somewhere. There is definitely room for local stores because the cost to ship something very small has a high floor.

anyfoo

I buy single components (usually two or three, to have spares for soldering etc.) that cost a few cents on Mouser all the time?

Carrok

> I'm not judging anyone for using Amazon instead of buying from a store

Given Amazon's labor practices, maybe you should be.

os2warpman

What distinguishes how Amazon treats their employees from any other logistics/retail employer?

Union busting? Piss bottles? Intrusive tracking with zero tolerance for shortfalls? Poor safety? Low pay?

That's rampant everywhere.

There are exceptions, but they make the rule and the exceptions only apply to direct employees so you have to dig, take time, do research, verify certifications/audits, spend more money, and wait longer, to truly avoid abusive companies.

Shopping at unionized Costco doesn't count for shit. That gallon of ketchup you bought was made by someone pissing in a bottle on a dangerous production line.

Please note: I'm not saying it's right. It is not right.

What I'm saying is that people SEEM to be saying "Amazon sucks brah <they clap their hands together like they're knocking dust off> I don't use 'em" and then they're shopping at Target, where the distribution centers and stores are filled with poorly-paid workers pissing in bottles in between safety stand downs because an unsupervised and poorly-trained worker died crushed between a manlift and a wall: https://www.sungazette.com/uncategorized/2024/11/muncy-targe...

If anyone wants to compete in the smug olympics, I'm the unholy lovechild of Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps when it comes to only buying union-made/public benefit corporation/domestic/local products.

Simultaneously, I recognize that not everyone makes as much as I do so Walmart or Amazon may be their only option.

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pixl97

I mean, no not exactly.

Amazon is just one of the nails in the coffin, and if it didn't exist there are still 50 others holding it shut.

We've seen most retail stores fail to convert from a physical to mixed physical+online format.

The number of items a successful electronics store needs is huge. The small mall format wasn't going to work.

TulliusCicero

> We've seen most retail stores fail to convert from a physical to mixed physical+online format.

For a while, people were sure Barnes and Noble was doomed, but recently they've done a big turnaround, even opening new stores. Anecdotally, the ones I've been to in recent years do seem nicer and more attractive than previously. Maybe there's a lesson in how they were able to stay alive.

scarface_74

I’m always amused about people criticizing Amazon’s labor practices since they are hiring people directly and based in the US and don’t share the same concern about labor conditions in China where all of manufacturing happens and where RadioShack got its products

Carrok

> and don’t share the same concern about labor conditions in China where all of manufacturing happens and where RadioShack got its products

[Citation needed]

We can care about both things.

BrenBarn

> I understand it, it's really hard to compete with Amazon in today's environment, and I'm not judging anyone for using Amazon instead of buying from a store

I am. :-)

> I buy online too, and fundamentally these are for-profit businesses and I don't feel any obligation to give them charity.

You can also judge people for prioritizing profit over all else.

Even from a purely utilitarian-calculus perspective, it's a bit strange to me when people say "I wish we had X" but then "but I understand people need to make money". Like, if you wish you had X, then X has utility to you. Now, it may be that the amount you would pay for X is less than what was needed for X to survive, but that's not necessarily implied by the mere fact that X has to make money.

And that's leaving out all the other positive and negative utilities that come from these various choices. Like living in a town where you can go to a place and have interactions with people, or even just browse unfamiliar and interesting products, instead of just a big warehouse.

There isn't any reason not to judge people for doing things that you think make the world worse.

tombert

I'm not 100% sure what you're getting at.

I didn't mind paying a bit more for stuff at Fry's because it was directly available and I liked walking around the store, but I certainly had no plans of buying a product I wasn't already going to buy just to patronize Fry's. These stores, while I do like them, are not charities. I don't want to needlessly give them money for stuff if I don't want it. I am not going to directly donate to them either.

I agree that the experience does have some amount of value if I am reminiscing about these things, but fundamentally what gives me (and I suspect most people) the most value is simply lower prices, and I think these things are at odds.

Big fun stores like Fry's have overhead, and they have to pay for that overhead somehow, meaning that it is rolled into the prices. Amazon is more boring, leading to lower prices.

codingdave

If anyone is curious, there are definitely a few stores left with the RadioShack brand, though most if not all of them are independent of any centralized organization: https://www.radioshack.com/locations

ks2048

There are also RadioShack stores in Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, and Nicaragua

https://www.radioshackla.com/guatemala/storepickup/

SoftTalker

The ones I’ve seen sell mostly phones and toys now. They might have a very small selection of components in a corner.

luma

Phones are radios, it’s right there in the name of the store.

mavilia

Weird to see my home county pop up on HN. As soon as I saw RadioShack + Maryland I immediately pictured exactly where this was on rt 4. I have a distinct memory of going to this very store to buy a PS2 internet adapter and an ethernet cable back in the early 2000s. It was also my go to for anything electronics related.

It was always nice to visit back home (including this year) and see that this store was still around. It will certainly be missed :(

jasonmarks_

> Weird to see my home county pop up on HN

I second this sentiment. It is sorta bizarre, there is not really a tech scene in the area except for a few niche roles in support of Pax River Naval Base (I'm also operating my SaaS down here https://weatherthetrip.com/download :peace_sign:). I remember visiting this store back in the 2000's and was surprised when I saw it still in business a few months back.

WorldPeas

They will be missed. I still have my multimeter, solder, and alarm clock from there. I wish home hardware stores had a component cabinet like RS did, always good for an impulse buy project. Still remember a few that I did out of make magazine with their parts.

bsimpson

I smile whenever I see the RadioShack logo on my solder and soldering iron.

colecut

My only retail job ever was at Radioshack back in 2009, I lasted about 2 months before landing an office IT job..

It was barely a shell of its former self then.. the only training I remember was being told to upsell batteries with every transaction..

I didn't make it long enough to be trained on selling cell phone plans which was the only way to make commission...

I don't understand the mindset of someone willing to be sold a cellphone plan during a random radioshack visit enough to work with them =p

Black Friday was during my short time there, I wasnt overly familiar with our inventory or locations of things, and fielding questions like "What gift should I get my grandson?"

I was anxious pretty much every minute that I worked there. May I never experience retail again.

soylentcola

Oh yeah, it was awful by then. At my store you made essentially minimum wage plus a sort of commission for addons/upsales (as long as they were over a certain percentage of your total sales) and flat bonuses for new cell contracts, phone/accessory sales.

Theoretically it could add up to a passable paycheck for retail, but they had it set up so that only a few senior staff ever got enough hours/good shifts where you could conceivably hit the addon percentages needed to qualify for commissions. So the only way to make any money was to sell cell plans, phones, and accessories. The whole store was totally focused on hawking cell plans.

Then we had to go to monthly meetings an hour out of town on our own dime. That's where they talked at us about the company and how cool and great it was. Such a shitty place to work. IIRC there was a dedicated web forum called "RadioShackSucks" or something like that where staff complained to each other.

kbolino

Also anecdotal, but it seems that RadioShack in that era was a particularly awful place to work. I applied around that time (might have been that exact year, or else it was 07-08). I was weeded out by the online personality test. My dad was friends with the store manager and he said "your son doesn't really have what we're looking for". Mind you, this would have been my 3rd or 4th retail job by that point, and I had references. I knew they did commission sales, and I had no experience in that, but I also wasn't the kind of person to upsell crap the customer didn't need. I'm glad I didn't get the job.

khedoros1

2009 is around the last time that I remember going into a Radio Shack, with the intention of buying a Nintendo DS and a game. I watched the guy go to the back to get a baggie containing the system, manual, accessories, etc, and stuff it into the box. He went back looking for the game (which was similarly absent from the case, along with the manual), came out empty handed.

"Well, couldn't find the game. So just the system?"

"Umm...no. I'll just buy the system down the street, since I'm going to have to go there to buy a game anyhow."

I have great memories of buying electronic components, kits to work on with my grandfather, and such. They were pretty sad by the end though. No decent kits, no little drawers of components.

scarface_74

My first job was also at RadioShack but back in 1995. We were all focused on batteries, adapters and consumer electronics. and cell phones were starting to be a big deal as carriers started subsidizing phones.

SoftTalker

I remember the "Battery Club" you could get one free battery a month I think. They gave you a little card and would punch a hole in it for every battery you got. My dad would stop in every month to get his free battery. I don't recall if any purchase was required but I don't think so.

beloch

There's something of a parallel history for Radioshack up here in Canada.

Radioshack's were everywhere once upon a time. As things became less repairable and less repaired, the components racks gradually shrank and the stores pivoted to selling a variety of other electronic junk: video games, cell phones, toys, etc.. Their prices were consistently higher than the competition and what they stocked was frequently of low quality.

In the early 2000's the Canadian franchises were bought out, and re-branded as "The Source". I asked a store manager why they'd turned their back on such a well recognized brand for "The Source", and he told me that the Radioshack brand was indeed well known, but associated with junk and high prices. I couldn't argue with that. They kept selling the same stuff at the same prices and quickly earned the same reputation Radioshack had. By this point the components racks were long gone and they were no longer even a good place to find adapters, cables, etc.. Somehow, "The Source" stores continued to persist.

Last year, they closed a significant chunk of their stores and re-branded again as "Best Buy Express". I haven't bothered to go into one since this happened but, if they're selling Best Buy's stock at Best Buy prices, it should be a distinct improvement despite the loss of identity.

Back when Radioshack re-branded to "The Source" I felt like some piece of my childhood had been lost, but Radioshack had already ceased to be Radioshack by that point, in Canada at least. "The Source" was always one of the stores you just walked past. I doubt anyone will miss them.

reverendsteveii

"The Last RadioShack In Maryland" is my new favorite Tom Waits song

bbeonx

Followed closely by "The Breadboard Has Been Drinking"

bee_rider

What’s he ProtoTyping in theeerreee? What the hell is he prototyping in there?

karpatic

I remember fondly the talks I had with strangers about their hobbies and learning about technology while I was employed there. I remember seeing this specific stores sales numbers and thinking to myself that their daily sales were close to our monthly. Our store closed shortly after.

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0xbadcafebee

The truest form of hacking was when you could fuck with public utilities using parts you got at Radio Shack. I wish I still had my DTMF dialer, it was so cool. Maybe kids today are buying parts to build GSM base stations. Maybe they'll bring back pirate radio, once all the analog radio bands have been replaced with digital. I just hope they get to experience that thrill and wonder at the power that hidden knowledge brings.

panzagl

The local Hobbytowns had an aisle of RadioShack branded components- really basic stuff you might use for an elementary school science fair. Of course one of the stores closed last year, and the other is 90% R/C cars, so even that couldn't last.