George Foreman has died
139 comments
·March 22, 2025cyanbane
Uptrenda
Man, those grills are useful. What I like about their engineering is you can run them on a typical kitchen circuit without worrying about a circuit breaker being triggered. This is not always true with other appliances. Typically stuff that can heat is very power consuming. Even washing machines and stuff like that can sometimes trip breakers (heat + spin). So yeah, it can be convenient.
washadjeffmad
They were also incredibly easy to clean. Whoever designed it was intimately aware of both the struggle of cleaning a grill grate and not being able to fit pans in dishwasher or standard kitchen sink.
kevin_thibedeau
The predecessors to the Salton design in the 80s suffered this problem. The hot sandwich makers and grills with no drainage had depressions that were hard to clean. They learned from the flawed competition.
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DoesntMatter22
Hulk Hogan told the story of how this was brought to him first to endorse but she insisted it was stupid and that instead he endorse the Hulk Hogan Thunder Mixer, a handheld blender.
He rolled his eye the whole time he told the story.
astura
Hulk Hogan is also a compulsive liar, so I don't believe this story.
jfrbfbreudh
To the downvoters: Hogan is a notorious liar and definitely lied about the grill story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AukVofRrSP8
If you have some time to kill, this is a fun video to watch. Otherwise, you can just google his long list of lies.
tomjakubowski
Even if it's true, it's so disgraceful of him telling the story in a way that he throws his spouse under the bus for what was really his decision to make. I don't know why I'd expect grace from Hulk Hogan though.
gojomo
Who's the 'she' in this story?
ffhhj
Shehulk
DoesntMatter22
Sorry, his wife. I missed a word or two there lol
wyldfire
Maybe his talent agent?
dkarl
I mean... I consider myself a versatile home cook, and I've owned and used more products similar to the Thunder Mixer than products similar to the George Foreman grill. Sometimes it's a mystery what people buy. Why would you buy a separate appliance rather than a ridged grill pan for your stove top?
jasonwatkinspdx
Some friends of mine back then had a reason I think may have been pretty common: they lived an apartment building that didn't allow combustion grills on the balconies. And coincidentally this sort of rental property is exactly the type to have an absolutely fake junk "extractor" for handling smoke in the kitchen. So they could put the Foreman on the patio and do an okish job with some steaks or burgers without smoking up the whole place.
brudgers
I have both a cast iron grill pan and a Forman. I use the Forman frequently because it heats up fast, cleans easy, and reliably cooks both sides at once…without oil, butter etc.
The grill pan has none of those attributes and can’t press a grilled cheese.
Yes it takes up counter space and is ultimately going to the landfill. I wish that were otherwise, but for me, they aren’t deal breakers.
weinzierl
Maybe precisely because the guy endorsing one product is much more relatable than the guy endorsing the other.
Nothing against Hulk Hogan, he is certainly one of a kind, but when it comes to my food I'd take advice from a down to earth type like Foreman a thousand times over that from a persona as detached from real life as Hogan's.
fisherjeff
Because it knocks out the fat, obviously
noduerme
I asked my ex once why she owned a bullet blender instead of a normal blender, and her response was "not for drugs, I just saw the infomercial"
cma
Doesn't it cook steaks on both sides at once?
TwoPhonesOneKid
Hulk Hogan also destroyed gawker because he was too cowardish to admit he's a sex freak. Obviously Peter Thiel was involved because he's too cowardish to admit he's gay, but the takeaway is that our society is run by toddlers who never learned to regulate their emotions (let alone manage the wealth a capitalist society allegedly demands. Eg people outside of Buffet demanding to be taxed more and Chuck Feeney making the gates foundation look like money-grubbing assholes).
nemo44x
Gawker destroyed itself because they let a reckless drug addict make editorial decisions while high and drunk which ended in the demise of the company. Fortunately that editor has recovered and has a neat blog/newsletter that focuses on substance abuse.
epistasis
Gawker destroyed Gawker, they acted like toddlers themselves and lost in a way that seemed like they were trying to.
Dwedit
I think the multiple N-bombs in the tape were the much bigger problem.
vasco
Weird attribution of morality when buffet gave $40B to the gates foundation. Also, aren't we all toddlers who never learned to regulate their emotions? You and me just cause less hubris because we don't have as much power and the time to convince ourselves we deserve it.
noduerme
It's interesting that we ended up with Hogan, Ventura, and Trump as figures in our politics. I feel like the last time a republic got to that point, there was a lot of lead in the water. I guess now it's mostly plastic in the brain.
hash872
RIP George Foreman.
As a former combat sports fan, I find it increasingly difficult to watch. These guys (and gals) are doing enormous brain damage to themselves & their opponents. Foreman seemed to have been an outlier that came out OK, but listen to the slurring & garbled speech that comes from any other old fighter. I know someone who's a friend with a longtime UFC fighter- he had an anecdote about the guy putting his kids to bed and temporarily forgetting their names. Great fights are very entertaining, but ethically I really find it difficult to be a fan these days
SecretDreams
This, but also extended to American football.
These individuals are well compensated, but many are signing up for much shorter lives.
genocidicbunny
The ones that are well compensated are the ones that survived high school and probably college football, where they weren't really compensated that much at all.
In high school, the football coaches would nag me at the beginning of the football season to join the team -- understandable since I was an example of the kind of wall of muscle and flesh you wanted in your defensive lines. I never joined because it didn't seem like much fun to me to be constantly slamming into other guys of that size.
More recently, I ran into one of the guys who did join the team, played defensive tackle, and went on to also play in college. Having also relatively recently seen up-close the effects of TBI, alzheimers, dementia -- even a short interaction made it obvious he was suffering heavily from hitting his head so much; the sad part is that he's the same age as me, and that by the time I hit middle age, he's probably going to be dead. Well, that's one of the sad parts, the other big one is that his reward for all that is two jobs in retail to try to make ends meet because he never got paid much for playing, and the TBIs made it hard to find a high-paying career.
amy214
Also a long known phenomena ... I believe it was Bill Gates who said, "He's a nice guy, but played a bit too much of the football with his helmet off"
lurn_mor
I think most folk would gladly shorten their lifespan by decades for a million dollars today - the ultimate sacrifice for future generational wealth? Not that a million gets you anything substantial anymore...
SecretDreams
Ya the issue is you shorten your lifespan up front by playing from a young age, but only have a small chance of actually getting the generational wealth. Typically, this a sacrifice your parents make for you on your behalf because they sign you up before you really know the downsides and by the time you can know the downsides, you've got your head too many times to be able to figure out the downsides.
AbstractH24
It's amazing how long it's taken football to fall from fame for this reason, like boxing did.
Not certain it'll ever happen. At least not for the foreseeable future.
wileydragonfly
Soccer players suffer more concussions and they aren’t paid much.
What do?
SecretDreams
Do you have hard stats on this? I play an unholy amount of soccer, moreso for fun, but most of my life. I've seldom seen any concussions. I'm confident they can and would happen, but I'd love to dive into the veracity of your claim. Especially over the lifetime of play, not just at the professional level.
A lot of football (American) players get their concussions in early, like highschool and college.
genocidicbunny
Personally, I would be interested to see a type of soccer where you can only use the feet -- head and upper body contact would be disallowed. It won't be the same game, but it would be kind of fun to see how players would adapt to those rules. There would probably be quite a bit more acrobatics involved to handle the ball being in the air.
silisili
RIP. Was a big fan of Foreman growing up, even though his initial heyday was before my time. Which is one of the reasons I'm fond of him today - he was 48 years old when he was last heavyweight boxing champ.
Every time I'm feeling "too old" to do something physical, I try to remember the baddest man on the planet was older than I am now - a fact that is still crazy to achy 'old' me now.
MrMcCall
Same here, and well said, friend.
If you're interested in seeing an interesting conversation one of his sons has with brilliant comedian Daniel Tosh, where they talk about his legendary father, check out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWm0ZLwcus
What a cultured man, raised by a true man of God. George Foreman is a testament to the best of humanity, and this one son (at least) is a testament to that humanity.
What a life, what a legacy!
silisili
Thanks! It's getting late so I only watched the first 20 mins for now, but agreed. He obviously had a great upbringing. I'll check out the rest tomorrow.
That aside, I used to love Tosh.0, and didn't even know he was still around. I'm a little sad to see him becoming and even sounding like Bill Maher. The old edge pusher is gone, understandably. We all got old and I hate it :).
MrMcCall
He's no Bill Maher, friend. Tosh despises Trump, because Tosh has that surfer chill and believes in being kind.
And I still think he's super funny, if not quite so edgy. His "WWJD rubber bracelet" bit has one of my favorite punchlines ever.
If you want to see a great (IMO) younger comedian, check out Greer Barnes. I discovered him yesterday and I've not laughed that hard at a comedian in quite a while. He is next-level brilliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8alpJV1V9pM
Peace be with you, friend.
scop
Amen. Having dabbled in martial arts and had the good pleasure of hitting my mid thirties, his ability to win at 48 is nothing short of jaw dropping. Shouldn’t be possible.
tombert
I didn't know who George Foreman was a little kid, so I saw him in the commercials for the George Foreman Grill and assumed that he was the inventor.
I was very confused when I, at age 11, read a comic published in 1990 (I think) and saw an advertisement for (I think) a boxing video game with George Foreman on the cover. I thought "huh, I wonder if he's related to the guy who invented that grill on TV".
I asked my mom and she laughed, and that day I truly learned about celebrity endorsements.
bdangubic
I can live 50 lifetimes and it wouldn’t be enough to understand celebrity endorsements… Foreman was one of my favorite athletes growing up but unless he was the greatest chef on earth I wouldn’t touch his grill with a wooden stick
tombert
I actually had one for a couple years when I lived alone in a fairly small apartment. I really liked it; it cooked hamburgers well enough and it was super cheap, like $15-20 when I bought it during a sale.
Obviously a full-sized grill would have been better, but I didn't really have that as an option in my apartment. It was easy to clean, cooked stuff relatively quickly, and neatly fit right next to my toaster. I think it's a good product for what it is.
Why they got a retired boxer to promote it, I have no idea.
MrMcCall
He was an affable and funny man, who also happened to be a boxing great.
What made him so affable was his deep humanity and kindness.
And the endorsement worked, for sure!
mc32
He’s an everyday man grilling in the backyard with his kids and buddies. To the day he died, He had a very clean image, so no baggage and a whole lot of goodwill. What more do you want from a pitchman?
silisili
I get that re: celebrity endorsements, I've never understood why someone would buy a product just because a celebrity is in the commercials.
Now, that out of the way, the Foreman Grill was/is? a nifty little product that actually worked really well. I was gifted one, and despite having a really nice grill and big yard, sometimes I just want to be quick and lazy and bang something out.
ocdtrekkie
I mean I am sure the endorsement gave it a recognized name, but people forget it was basically the Instant Pot if its day. You could buy George Foreman grill cookbooks in stores. It very much became its own thing, to the point many people know of George Foreman because of the grill he endorsed.
tomjakubowski
Then there are the celebrities who are famous entirely for hawking products on TV: Billy Mays and Vince Offer (aka "the shamwow guy", aka "the slap chop guy")
adabyron
The goal of the endorsement is to catch your attention through entertainment.
Then you need something to trigger them to say yes, I want that.
Aside - many people want something easy for them to use, which this thing was. Julia Child's success is a great lesson of a very good chef making it simple & showing mistakes.
spike021
as another comment said, it makes for a decent indoors apartment grill. i used to use one all the time to make hamburgers or grilled cheese in college.
Clubber
I had one in college in the 90s that still works to this day.
wileydragonfly
Smoking up the dorms and tripping breakers…
borgdefenser
I always thought the same until I got one.
It is a really good product.
It especially stands out if on a diet and going to eat a lot of chicken breast.
Steak I wouldn't cook in it but it makes great chicken. Especially on a diet that you aren't going to add much else calorie wise with how you cook it.
brudgers
Recommended George Foreman movie, When we were Kings.
zem
I only just discovered that he didn't invent or at least own the company that made the grill. Not being American, I had no real idea who he was outside of it.
dkarl
I didn't think much about George Foreman until I watched When We Were Kings. For me, he was just as interesting as Ali, and I was so impressed with how he returned and reinvented himself after the loss to Ali that he was my personal reference point for resilience and personal evolution. RIP.
JKCalhoun
Yep. Highly recommend "When We Were Kings".
momoschili
the foreman grills gets a lot of flack but it's a damn good cooking utensil and if not for him I'm not sure it would have been as publicized as it was.
also a great dad, christian, and boxer
RIP
Fezzik
5 marriages… 100% Christian. No way to say it better.
rsyring
I don't know what 100% Christian is intended to imply here, although it's obviously critical.
Biblical christianity isn't for the perfect or righteous, but for sinners. Christ rejoices more over the one sinner that repents than the 99 who need no repentance (John 15).
I don't know much about Foreman. But, his fifth marriage did last 40 years. Seems like, at some point, his perspective on marriage/commitment got more aligned with biblical wisdom.
kubb
Being a Christian celebrity doesn't require you to stick to Christian values. It's much more important to proclaim your membership than to live it. It's like wearing a team jersey without playing the game. The appearance matters more than the practice.
Christianity in America is like a brand - more about identity and affiliation than discipleship or doctrine.
tenacious_tuna
A lot of the replies to this comment seem to assume that the "5 marriages" component is meant to cast Foreman's christianity as hypocritical, when I think it's more a commentary on how christian values affect relationship stability.
I say this also as someone who's left the church, and whose religious parents and inlaws are multiply-divorced.
orthoxerox
Do you think Jacob had his twelve sons with the same woman?
washadjeffmad
What we do today is totally moral and normal, and cultural practices prior to what we grew up with are sinful barbarism.
fibonachos
That little grill got me through many years of apartment living where I couldn’t have a propane grill.
MrMcCall
> also a great dad, christian, and boxer
Indeed. Very much so.
You can learn more about him in this conversation one of his sons has with comedian Daniel Tosh, who's his neighbor and friend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWm0ZLwcus
George Foreman III demonstrates how deserving GF was of all his success. He and GF3 are the best of humanity. And Tosh being a very kind and open-hearted human being, too, makes the conversation not only interesting but simply enjoyable, especially for its insights into his legendary father's life.
ycombinatrix
What made him a great christian?
roflchoppa
Time to pull out Jack LaLanne power juicer, and some chicken thighs. RIP.
Simon_O_Rourke
A good guy and all around gentleman. My uncle Bryan met him in Topeka in the early 80s and encouraged his career in photography by posing for a few "fighting stance" photos for the local paper.
racl101
George was a beast. Dominant Boxer. One of the greats.
Also, I loved, loved my Foreman grill. Made so many good meals in college.
nomilk
For anyone curious this is the product (and catch phrase) he was most well known for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tABjjmd_XsE
johndhi
As a boxing fan, Foreman is special.
So many brutal fights but sharp as a tack, mentally, until the end.
Such longevity - became champ again after so many years away from the sport.
Such a businessman.
From all accounts, such a kind person.
What an impact.
"Although Foreman never confirmed exactly how much he has earned from the endorsement, Salton paid him $138 million in 1999 for the right to use his name. Prior to that, he was paid about 40% of the profits on each grill sold (earning him $4.5 million a month in payouts at its peak), yielding an estimated total of over $200 million just from the endorsement through 2011, substantially more than he earned as a boxer."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman
Not sure if luck or stars just aligned. But that is some legit naming rights. Kudos to maybe, and I mean it... one of the best at it.