I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks
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·March 19, 2025drumhead
swat535
New America? I beg to differ.
The United States has always been hostile to outsiders—what’s different now is that they’re not even trying to hide it.
As a naturalized Canadian, crossing the U.S. border has always been a frustrating ordeal. Despite holding a valid Canadian passport, I’m routinely subjected to an extra hour of “security” questioning. Maybe I’m just unlucky. Or maybe it’s because I was born in an "undesirable" Middle Eastern country and have brown skin. One time I was detained for 5 hours and were questioned about "Islam" (ironically, I'm a Christian so I couldn't answer their questions).
My belongings are always searched, and I’m treated as less than human by CBP. I suspect that if you’re white, crossing from EU or elsewhere, you were used to an easier time until now.
The gloves are off.
yolo666999420
For whatever it's worth, I'm treated this way as a white American. I'm selected for extra screening every single time I reenter the country. Though, I don't think it's ever been longer that 30 minutes or so. I don't know why but some combination of having a beard, being naturally anxious and having traveled to "unusual" countries -- at least by American standards. Crossing the border makes for a guaranteed panic attack and I've let my passport expire. It's a damn shame, too, because it's depriving my kids of invaluable life experiences and has brought my relationship with my spouse (who loves to travel) to the brink on multiple occasions.
mrmlz
US Border control is always worse than any EU-country (as a white EU-resident I might add). We have lots of umlauts in our names äöå etc. which can seriously mess up you ESTA or travel booking unless you double and triple check :)
But still India had the absolute worst border control I've ever experienced. I probably rather sleep on a cold prison floor a couple of days than having to manually reenter all my information eight times!
diggan
I've never been to the US, because I've been scared of these things, for decades, after reading stories about it. I've traveled to Canada and Mexico multiple times, but one time I made the mistake of having a connecting flight in Florida (first and last time).
As expected, I was interrogated by police-looking people about my motivations, yelled at by some other ones to walk faster and use some machine faster, and almost missed my connecting flight because of the "some questions", even though I never actually intended to enter the US, since I was on my way to Mexico.
graemep
Me too. A lot of people who are widely travelled have told me that the US is the most hostile country to enter so, although there are places and people I would love to visit, I have never been.
freehorse
This whole situation -coupled with the outright bans or obstacles in giving visas to people from several countries- cannot but have unpredictable consequences. For example, right now, I cannot imagine any big academic international conference keep taking place in the US. And if they do, they should get boycotted. US right now is neither accessible nor safe for foreign citizens. And I bet recruiting or holding to highly skilled labour force will start being a problem too.
firefax
The venue I published in before dropping out of my PhD purposefully alternated between the US and international locations for these reasons. (Some folks would complain that Canada "didn't count", which would of course greatly offend the Canadians present.)
One prominent human computer interaction professor was screamed at, nearly tazed, and had their car torn apart because the CBP thought they were homeless, which would be amusing if this senior researcher had not been obviously traumatized by the experience.
I have heard terrible stories from Canadian academics for years through presidencies of "both sides", and I'm glad this story is getting the traction it deserves but we also need to be mindful we did not arrive at this moment overnight.
jcranmer
> For example, right now, I cannot imagine any big academic international conference keep taking place in the US.
There is a language standards committee meeting that was going to take place in the US that is now not because too many attendees think the US is no longer a safe place to travel to. We're already seeing this damage take place.
franktankbank
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femiagbabiaka
It’s not just foreign citizens: it’s anyone who doesn’t look white. If you’re a citizen maybe you’ll get the privilege of being let go in less than a week.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/03/14/us-citiz...
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ssijak
Objective is to earn as much money as possible without regard for people. Those detention centers and prisons are privately owned.
danmaz74
From the article: "Companies like CoreCivic and GEO Group receive government funding based on the number of people they detain, which is why they lobby for stricter immigration policies. It’s a lucrative business: CoreCivic made over $560m from Ice contracts in a single year. In 2024, GEO Group made more than $763m from Ice contracts."
rayiner
No, the big money is in opening the border and having the government pay you to house illegal immigrants: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairnes...
If the threat of being sent to prison in El Salvador scares away the immigrants who cross illegally, then that isn’t making anyone money.
jakelazaroff
Yeah, it’s basically “drained pool politics”. The threat of extrajudicial imprisonment objectively makes the US a less attractive place for business and will hurt us economically. The current administration simply cares more about resegregating the country and will cut off all our noses to spite our faces.
juujian
She wasn't released because she was Canadian. She was released because it was becoming a PR issue.
elicash
One thing I'm keeping an eye on is if Canada eventually updates its travel advisory warning for the United States https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-states (Currently still at 'normal precautions')
apples_oranges
I wonder why agents in the field, customs, immigration etc, seem so eager to implement these changes.
forinti
I'm not a psychologist, but I'm pretty sure all police forces should have very strong and active civilian oversight, because they seem to attract (or maybe even nurture) some very aggressive people.
In my country, some police forces have skulls on their uniforms and vehicles. How twisted is that?
rayiner
But the civilian oversight voted for the guy who promised mass deportations.
rjsw
They are "Working Towards the Führer" [1].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Kershaw#%22Working_Towards...
mdp2021
Among the first questions: are they well trained? Some countries cut corners over expenses...
pjc50
Rhetorical question, or are you genuinely asking?
juujian
I wonder why they chose to work for ICE...
apples_oranges
Genuinely. Are they all Trump fans that say "finally we can do what we always wanted to do" or what?
I mean there's the law or some executive order but there's also leeway in implementing. I am not qualified to judge but it just seems to be some sort of preemptive obedience.
otikik
"Just following orders"
perihelions
(The forced labor camp is in El Salvador, not Ecuador).
ta1243
Was due to go to meet our new local hires post April. Standard ESTA. No way I'm going now.
pjc50
Sensible - meeting new hires counts as "work", which is strictly not included under just the ESTA, so you'd have to decide whether to lie to the border guards about it or risk this treatment.
ta1243
Hell just answering a phonecall from HQ would be a risk.
toomuchtodo
Onboard them somewhere safe outside the US? Retreat style.
sebstefan
>I was taken to the nurse’s office for a medical check. She asked what had happened to me. She had never seen a Canadian there before. When I told her my story, she grabbed my hand and said: “Do you believe in God?”
>“I believe God brought you here for a reason,” she said. “I know it feels like your life is in a million pieces, but you will be OK. Through this, I think you are going to find a way to help others.”
You've got to be fucked in the head to think this is an appropriate thing to do as an agent that's part of a federal process. Keep your god out of work!
diggan
As an atheist, I too stopped and re-read that particular section to think how I felt about it.
In the end, we don't know the motivation of the nurse. Could be that the nurse isn't even religious herself, which is why she asked if Mooney believed in god first, and since Mooney said she does, the nurse tried to help her mentally in a way that spoke to her. If Mooney said she didn't believe in god, the nurse might have said something else.
I say this because as an atheist who used to work in elder-care, I've had many conversations with very religious old people, where I "play their game" because they respond better to it, and seemed happy about it. Even if I don't believe in god, talking with people as if I did, just makes sense in situations where people seemed to have lost all hope.
mellosouls
And yet, it gave her great comfort. Perhaps she knows her job better than you?
cwmma
if your takeaway from this article is that the most objectionable thing was that somebody gave her some religious encouragement but only after first making sure she was actually religious, then I feel like you are giving the rest of us atheists a really bad name.
mdp2021
"Servers must be strict in expression and loose on interpretation" (RFCs); "Respond to the best possible interpretation" (guidelines)...
That person was apparently trying to be humane, in her own personal way. Possibly ingenuous, probably in good faith and intention.
otikik
> Keep your god out of work!
That is very easy to type from the comfort of your home on your mobile phone.
After several days of deprivations and hardships, including sleeping in a fully-lighted cold cell without even a blanket, you will get any help and support that you can get.
sebstefan
The entire country of France manages to have government workers that don't talk to you about their god just fine
otikik
And they make great baguettes. But you didn't get my point.
I am an atheist. I do think that what the nurse did is wrong and unprofessional.
My point is: I would still have absolutely clinged to it, if I was in the same situation as this woman. I would have talked with this nurse, and would have told her that yes, maybe God had something to do with it. And you would have too, probably.
If you are drowning in the ocean, you don't discard a piece of floating wood because it has growing fungi. Claiming virtue is very easy ... until you experience real hardship.
ta1243
America has always been a theocracy under a veneer of democracy. She's lucky she didn't get renamed to Offred.
TheOtherHobbes
Just wait until you see the two huge fasces in the House Chamber.
ajkjk
yeah no it hasn't
diggan
Isn't the bible involved in the whole inauguration part? Besides, candidates routinely discuss their faith, and "In God We Trust" appears on the currency.
Edit: Hah, I just realized that congressional sessions open with prayer as well. Not sure what other countries does this?
I-M-S
Yeah, I was thinking what would have I, an atheist, said in that situation. "There are five lights" indeed.
queuebert
Technically, that's not what the separation clause is about. That was not, however, professional behavior for a nurse, but I see extremely religious nurses on the reg. Much less so with doctors, but then again religiosity is inversely proportional to education.
mdp2021
Superstition can be inversely proportional to education. Cultivation should be proportional to education.
That term you used is very slippery (actually, you used it as the opposite of a "superstition" - you gave it only the interpretation typical of later uses).
snapcaster
This is horrible and scary, why border guards are even giving the authority to revoke visas is beyond me. When people think about giving cops/guards authority like this they need to be picturing the dumbest bully from their grade school. That's who is going to be using the power
pjc50
It's Team Grade School Bullies all the way up, from the voters to the representatives. Plus decades of pro-cop propaganda, especially against following the rules.
blindriver
Every country is like this. Israel is the scariest but I remember decades ago crossing into Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport. I have so many stories it’s funny. On top of the other stories I’ve already posted, my friend who is Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner and on his way back, they asked him where are you going. He answered “Canada” and they detained him and pulled apart his car looking for drugs. He was detained for hours until they let him go.
nsavage
As a Canadian living near the border (as many Canadians are!), I would often drive into the US for shopping. There are a number of towns that seem dedicated to serving Canadians, like Watertown, NY. I've found that often the US border guards would be much nicer than the Canadian border guards, probably because the Canadians are the ones that need to deal with the customs rules (Canadians aren't trying to smuggle their new purchases back to the US without paying tax!).
I haven't been on a shopping trip like that in a while though, and I find it hard to believe I'll ever do it again now. I feel bad for Watertown, but with the tariffs and the risk of detention, its not worth it.
pjc50
There's a wide spectrum between being aggressive about asking for your passport and detention for weeks. While it's a slippery slope the extent to which it happens, and the extent to which prejudice is involved, varies a lot.
blindriver
Are you suggesting that Swiss border patrol would have been more forgiving if I were illegally entering their country?
ssijak
"Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport"
What is exactly wrong here? They checked your passport and went on their way, that is how it works.
ethbr1
It was hilarious seeing the difference between the French and Swiss border guards on train rides.
French: laughing and talking, checking everyone's passports
Swiss: eyes scanning the car, papers please
blindriver
Nothing wrong. The previous poster claimed that the US Border patrol was excessively scary but my point is this happens everywhere around the world.
BrandoElFollito
I traveled to the US (from my country -France- and many others) for 12 years. About a trip every month. The last time was 10 years ago.
I never had any problems (outside the horrible behaviour of border officers who show you that you are not welcome). I was stopped once by a policeman when I did an illegal car maneuver (which is tolerated in France), and when he realized I was a tourist with family, he just said, "Be careful, have a nice trip."
Today I am seriously considering never going to the US anymore because it looks like it is not a good destination anymore. I may be wrong though, I hope.
gs17
> outside the horrible behaviour of border officers who show you that you are not welcome
They've always (in my life, which is largely post 9/11) done that to US citizens too. Going into Canada it was "where are you going to? the beach, eh? have a nice day!", coming back seemed to be performed under the suspicion that our passports were fake and our car was made out of drugs. Despite doing nothing wrong, we were always afraid of getting in trouble because a border agent felt like it.
dhsysusbsjsi
I've already made the decision not to go to the US again for the foreseeable future.
BizarreByte
Same for me as well. I've also gone as far as moving any paying business away from the US. I have completely moved off paid US services as of about a month ago to Canadian or EU equivalents.
greatpatton
Same, will not risk my mental health for a trip to the US.
nicbou
Same. The president is repeatedly threatening to annex my country. I was already avoiding the US because TSA is creepy, but now I'm actively divesting from it.
apwell23
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cship2
Same has being happening in UK for quite sometimes post 911. The facilities looks very similar. Some one line Cornell Correction must be making a killing in US.
ThePowerOfFuet
"Seriously considering"? Êtes-vous fou ? Restez en Europe !
greggyb
Why is this flagged?
First of all, it's about an entrepreneur traveling to the US for a startup, which is directly relevant to a significant proportion of YCombinator founders themselves.
Beyond its direct relevance to the core founding audience of HN, it is not clickbait or wantonly inflammatory, and is clearly of interest to many based on the comment activity and votes.
sejje
> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
Probably this site guideline?
causal
This is an article about immigration which is highly relevant to US tech
stewx
My takeaway from this is that laws and rules don't matter if the officials on the ground are incompetent, ignorant, and have contempt for you.
There is a lot of unnecessary cruelty and lack of due process in this story.
freehorse
I sort of disagree. There _is_ a process, which optimises for holding people as long as possible for the prison industrial complex to make money. When you privatise these kind of social services, this is what happens. This is not due to a few officials on the ground that just happened by chance to be "incompetent, ignorant, and have contempt for you". As the article concludes,
> The reality became clear: Ice detention isn’t just a bureaucratic nightmare. It’s a business. These facilities are privately owned and run for profit.
> Companies like CoreCivic and GEO Group receive government funding based on the number of people they detain, which is why they lobby for stricter immigration policies. It’s a lucrative business: CoreCivic made over $560m from Ice contracts in a single year. In 2024, GEO Group made more than $763m from Ice contracts.
> The more detainees, the more money they make. It stands to reason that these companies have no incentive to release people quickly. What I had experienced was finally starting to make sense.
ethbr1
It's a couple things.
One is the private prison industry being incentivized to hold as many people as possible.
But there's also a bureaucracy (ICE and State) with little to no pressure to perform better for this particular population (because who cares about criminals?).
Consequently, you get an industry that's perfectly happy to warehouse people... coupled with a slow and ineffective government controlling the keys to their release.
Private detention facilities should be banned.
But the government also needs KPIs with consequences tied to them. E.g. average holding time, average response time to filing, etc. And leaders get fired / budgets cut if targets are missed.
freehorse
At this point, I am not sure if we can exclude that lobbying from private prisons does not affect the way bureaucracy runs, from the stage of legislation to the point of how said legislation is executed. Thus I am not sure that these two are in truly independent.
But otherwise I agree; even in places where detention facilities are not privatised, bureaucracy can still pose a lot of issues because, as you say, "who cares about criminals", or because certain traits are overrepresented in the group of people who take up these jobs.
derbOac
Well, now those incentives work in the opposite direction. There have been many reports of Trump being livid that his deportation quotas aren't being met.
When the incentive is a quota rather than just adjudication, you end up with what's going on now.
almostgotcaught
> There _is_ a process, which optimises for holding people as long as possible for the prison industrial complex to make money
"due process" is what you are due - it is what is afforded to you by the 4th amendment and habeus corpus. Op is correct.
freehorse
I was disagreeing that it is just a matter of some officials doing a bad job. And in any case it is not about who is right or wrong, OP is right in identifying that there is no due process, and I did not disagree with that.
pjc50
However, the US has long been very clear: constitutional rights only apply to citizens. US law is perfectly happy with arbitrary brutality towards non-citizens.
(ECHR is different on this, which has caused a lot of controversy in the UK from people who want to be arbitrarily brutal towards non-citizens)
01HNNWZ0MV43FF
There's that proverb "You might have the right of way, but the semi truck will still kill you". We might have the Constitution, but it apparently is enforced on an honor system. (Plus non-citizens don't have any rights, so I guess they aren't inalienable human rights after all, eyeroll)
gadders
But they were all perfectly competent and infallible under Biden. This incompetence has only happened since January 20th.
mdp2021
> This incompetence has only happened since
Can we be sure? Do we have stats?
If you look at international press, horror stories happen everywhere, semi-certified (the press from Country C diffident against Country Y will publish if they have a warning piece). The issue is telling the exception from the norm and similar.
gadders
Yes, and exceptions from the norm get extra publicity when it fits a press narrative.
01HNNWZ0MV43FF
It's certainly gotten worse, which is why I hope people will vote in every election they can vote in.
blindriver
Yes. This is the reality of how it is. It’s unfair that this woman was caught in this but CBP have ultimate power crossing the border can be scary.
My friend got her visa stripped and given a 10 year ban under Obama because of jokes in her text messages about a GC marriage. She didn’t get thrown in jail but she was refused entry back into the US and had to get someone to sell all her stuff while she flew back to her home country.
Most of you have no idea about how life is because you’re probably citizens but this is the reality at the border. It’s even worse in other countries.
Someone I know is from Australia and she said if you overstay your visa they track you down, arrest you and send you to jails outside of Australia mainland until you are eventually deported. Every country treats their border extremely strictly.
CORRECTION: I pinged my friend and I was wrong. They arrest them but don’t send to offshore jails. Those are for illegal immgrants that arrive on boats.
ssijak
"It’s even worse in other countries."
It's not. I take you are comparing to western countries. If you have a valid visa and behave even remotely normal to the border agents you will have no issues. Only in the USA some border agents have the attitude of "I'm gonna get you" or making you feel unwelcome for no reason. Hell, even in "authoritarian" countries like UAE or Quatar I never experience anything but pleasant interactions on the border.
01HNNWZ0MV43FF
> Hell, even in "authoritarian" countries like UAE or Quatar I never experience anything but pleasant interactions on the border.
Wikipedia seems to indicate I couldn't go to the UAE because I'm transgender https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_by_country_or_ter...
otikik
Unfortunately that table has already started changing for the worse on the particular case of the United States :(
Be strong.
blindriver
You are ignorant about how life is crossing into other countries. In the 1990s, my friend who is a white Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner with his family, and on his way back the Canadian border patrol asked him where he was going. He answered “Canada” instead of Toronto and based on that they detained him for hours and ripped apart his car.
Just recently a woman from the UK was denied entry into Canada and because of that was denied entry back into the US and found herself in the same mess as the person in the article.
This happens all the time, you just don’t hear about it until the news decides to make a thing about it.
ssijak
"woman from the UK was denied entry into Canada and because of that was denied entry back into the US"
You are proving my point, she was again detained by USA for 3 weeks when it could have been resolved much better and faster.
stephen_g
The offshore detention we do here in Australia is abominable, but it’s not accurate to say it’s “if you overstay your visa”, it’s generally only used for people who can’t be deported for whatever reason (usually around asylum claims, being stateless, etc.).
If you just overstay a visa you will just be deported fairly quickly, you aren’t going to go into offshore detention…
That’s not a defence of the practice, offshore detention should absolutely be abolished, it’s just worth being accurate.
blindriver
My friend went to University of NSW early 2000s and she said when her friends disappeared for a while, they knew they were caught by the border patrol and deported because of some sort of overstayed visas. They all knew how aggressive Australia was at enforcing visa violations. Maybe they changed the process since then but she said everyone knew they sent visa overstayers to the offshore jails to scare them and send a message to everyone else.
CORRECTION: you are right. I got my story mixed up so I was wrong. It’s illegal immigrants who arrived by boat that were sent to offshore jails. My friends friend was sent to a regular jail. He had a student visa and stopped going to uni so he got arrested and deported because his visa got cancelled.
jon_adler
AFAIK, the Australian system doesn’t operate like this for visa overstays. Your friend may be confused with asylum applications for those who arrive by boat (which isn’t often used in practice).
https://www.unsw.edu.au/content/dam/pdfs/law/kaldor/factshee...
blindriver
Yes they arrest them and throw them in jail but not offshore jails. I was wrong about that, I checked with my friend.
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jkaplowitz
> Someone I know is from Australia and she said if you overstay your visa they track you down, arrest you and send you to jails outside of Australia mainland until you are eventually deported. Every country treats their border extremely strictly.
Honestly, this kind of abusive approach is predominant among certain of the major anglophone countries only, at least within the world of fully developed democratic countries, likely for reasons of shared media ownership/viewership and overlapping cultural/political attitudes but I don’t know for sure.
Yes, several other fully developed democratic countries do of course treat their borders strictly in the sense of who’s allowed in and under what circumstances, but not with these kinds of abusive treatment as a common pattern. And I do frequently read news in three languages plus a fourth occasionally, so I don’t think this is just me being biased toward news from countries that share of my native language of English.
eagleislandsong
> I do frequently read news in three languages plus a fourth occasionally
Impressive. Can you speak or understand by listening these languages as well? And if I may ask out of curiosity, which languages are they?
jkaplowitz
Yes, though the degree varies by language. I'm a native US English speaker, usefully bilingual in French at least when things are being spoken relatively standardly, and have partial degrees of proficiency with German (hello from Berlin) and Spanish which nobody would confuse for fluency but which are still useful levels of each language.
ThePowerOfFuet
>because of jokes in her text messages about a [Green Card] marriage
Let this be a lesson to all those who think it's fine to unlock their phone and hand it to cops.
bloopernova
I'm not sure what customs and border patrol would do if you refused to unlock your phone for them. I doubt they would just let you go.
blindriver
You would be detained and eventually denied entry. You have no rights when you cross the border no matter which country you're in. China and other countries have just as draconian enforcement.
BizarreByte
The specifics of this case are largely irrelevant to me, the fact is I am scared to cross the border into the US at this point.
For the foreseeable future I will not be travelling to the US for any reason. Canada is safe and there is nothing in the US worth risking my freedom for. I will remain here and I will continue to avoid travel to America as well as spending money on American goods/services.
transcriptase
The specifics are seemingly irrelevant to everyone. She had her work visa revoked at the Canadian border because her company in California was allegedly making THC beverages in violation of federal law. She was told to visit a consulate to straighten it out.
Instead she flew to Mexico and tried to enter there with new and obviously fake job offer. She was treated like anyone else would, but it’s international news because she’s a pretty white woman.
BizarreByte
Again I do not care. The US has done more than enough to instill fear in Canadians like me.
Would you travel to a country where its leader is constantly making threats against your country, some as serious as repeatedly calling for your annexation? The current US administration has made it very clear how it feels about me and my countrymen.
I don't consider the US safe and I do not need someone to americansplain to me. You aren't exceptional, you're a threat.
transcriptase
I am Canadian. I’ve been to the U.S. a hundred times and nothing has really changed to make me blink at continuing to go. I have friends and family who work and vacation there, and it’s the same for them as it’s always been.
The Canadian media and Canadian businesses have been drumming up fear and patriotic rhetoric to drive domestic industries. That’s great - the last 10 years of “Canada is a post-national state with no culture or identity” narrative that Trudeau championed wasn’t doing us any favours anyway.
Trump may be a buffoon and what he’s doing is clearly not acceptable with respect to Canada, but to fear visiting or considering the U.S. unsafe when it’s objectively far safer than visiting any all-inclusive hotspot in the Caribbean that Canadians are still flocking to like they do every winter is, well, removed from reality.
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jmpz
Source?
tiniuclx
What about the new job offer makes you think it is fake?
transcriptase
You run a company in LA. Your visa is revoked. You show up at a different border shortly after with a novel job offer. Is it a genuine job offer or are you going back to run your company?
righthand
This country is sick in the head. We actively eschew healthcare for temporary satisfaction that we are locking some minority group up. Then the defense spend lobby comes back around riling people up so that they can make money and people can have temporary satisfaction that they are safe.
richev
Related: "The case for boycotting the United States" https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/18/us-tru...
dkd903
This is what main stream media propaganda looks like.
> Dr Alawieh had traveled last month to Lebanon, her home country, to visit relatives.
No, she did not; she attended the funeral of a leader of a US-designated terror organization.
Gigachad
Governments need to start putting out travel warnings on the US. It’s becoming an increasingly dangerous place to visit.
ben_w
They are.
Germany:
"""Innenpolitische Lage
Amerikanische Großstädte sind landesweit mit einem Anstieg der Gewaltkriminalität konfrontiert. Es besteht auch weiterhin eine erhöhte Gefahr politisch motivierter Gewalt."""
Translation:
"""Domestic political situation
Major American cities are facing an increase in violent crime nationwide. There is still an increased risk of politically motivated violence."""
- https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/de/reiseundsicherheit/usaver...
Euphorbium
And remove visa free travel for americans.
danmaz74
What would that help? Asking as a EU citizen.
rocqua
Quid pro quo. Hurt the current administration's popularity by inconveniencing US citizens. And in general, Visa free travel is a mutually beneficial deal. If the US stops giving the EU benefits, why shouldn't the EU reciprocate.
Personally, I get it but don't support it. I still appreciate my American brethren, just not their administration. We should hit back at the establishment, not the population. Big point there is reducing weapons import, and adding export tarrifs on F35 parts, perhaps ASML machines aswell.
apwell23
would make european tourist spots so much clamer and nicer
lenerdenator
... and that sort of attitude towards Americans is part of why Trump is able to play Europeans as a ambivalent-at-best bunch.
danso
> A woman asked me for the name of someone they could contact on my behalf. In moments like this, you realize you don’t actually know anyone’s phone number anymore. By some miracle, I had recently memorized my best friend Britt’s number because I had been putting my grocery points on her account.
I definitely would be screwed in this situation. Time to remember by sibling’s number
elicash
Reminds me of doing civil disobedience -- you write your attorney's phone number on your arm beforehand.
betaby
> your attorney's phone
Right, people have attorneys. Very common thing ... nowhere?
01HNNWZ0MV43FF
You _should_.
[Lawyer, Passport, Locksmith, Gun by DeviantOllam](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ihrGNGesfI)
littlestymaar
Nobody does civil disobedience by themselves: you do it as a group and yes the group better find an attorney beforehand …
If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjected to their own more oppressive and never ending hells, like being deported to a prison camp in Ecuador with no idea when you'd ever be released.
New America is absolutely terrifying.