The Zizians (2020)
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·February 1, 2025null
Dotnaught
Related: String of recent killings linked to Bay Area 'death cult'
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/bay-area-death-cult-z...
dang
Thanks for this. Since the current post is from 2020 and that story is recent, I've reupped this submission of it:
String of recent killings linked to Bay Area rationalist 'death cult' - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42877910
hitekker
> In 2022, Vallejo landlord Curtis Lind was allegedly attacked by a group of young tenants who lived in box trucks on his property. One of the alleged assailants reportedly stabbed Lind through the chest with a samurai sword. During the attack, Lind shot two of the alleged assailants, leaving Emma Borhanian, 31, dead. Lind survived the attack but lost an eye. On Jan. 17, Lind, now 82, was stabbed to death on the same property, weeks before he could testify in the case. Oxford-educated data scientist Maximilian Snyder, 22, was charged on Tuesday with Lind’s murder.
> Youngblut allegedly pulled a gun on the agents, and the resulting shootout left Bauckholt and agent David Maland, 44, dead, and Youngblut injured. Youngblut and Bauckholt had been under surveillance by authorities in Vermont after they were seen walking around two towns in “all black tactical style clothing,” carrying firearms. They had also been seen wrapping cellphones and other items in aluminum foil bought at Walmart, the complaint states.
The article is from 2025; the OP's is from 2020. It seems the Zizians are now murdering people.
mrbluecoat
Trasmatta
I wonder why that post got flagged.
dang
I've turned the flags off for the time being, but it's a little hard to evaluate that article. It seems to be more of a tendentious opinion piece than a neutral report?
Edit: I ended up merging the current thread into https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42897871, since both are general posts about more or less the same topic, but also re-upping https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42877910 since it seems to be the most neutral news report.
I guess the idea is to have https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42877910 be about the recent events and keep https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42897871 for discussing / arguing about the generic aspects.
(Sorry for the complexity but in this case it appears to be essential not accidental)
muglug
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that there are many fans of Rationalism on HN.