Show HN: Chat with multiple LLMs: o1-high-effort, Sonnet 3.5, GPT-4o, and more
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·January 21, 2025hoerzu
Created an open source alternative just using the browser and not sharing your data with a third party: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/tabgpt-ask-chatgpt-...
cr4zy
Cool! I should say most of PolyChat is open source at https://github.com/open-webui - just the combo models and payment are closed source right now. Open to arguments on making PolyChat fully open source as well!
noahjk
Sounds like you made most of these changes upstream? What about the background chats and the chat tree overview, are either of them in Open WebUI, or are they also custom to PolyChat? I run OWUI locally and am interested in those features for selfish reasons. If for some reason your multi-model idea doesn’t pan out, I’d love to see it merged upstream, too. Thanks for your contributions!
(Another annoying thing about OWUI is getting logged out every time the image upgrades… is that something else you’ve looked at?)
cr4zy
Background chats are new in v5 of Open WebUI, so you can use it too. Overview has been there also, but it's kind hidden in the hamburger menu.
The upgrade/logout issue you're facing is likely due to not setting WEBUI_SECRET_KEY outside of your docker container. This causes all previous cookies to be unreadable as a new key will get generated by start.sh and won't decrypt the old cookies.
artdigital
Some other options:
OpenRouter has similar features with any model that’s available on OpenRouter through open router billing
On the desktop, Msty can do this too
olddog2
Cool, but nano-gpt.com do pay per use for about 100 chat and image models including o1pro, deepseek r1 etc.
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moralestapia
Unlimited free OpenAI o1?
OP, isn't that really expensive to maintain?
oidar
This is very good at this right now too: https://melty.sh/chorus
amelius
This is like showing the top 3 results from Google search side by side. I'm not sure that's what I want, to be honest.
diggan
No, more like showing the top 3 results from Google, Bing, and Kagi at the same time next to each other, if anything.
oidar
You haven't dug in far enough. It's not for chatting with LLMs, it's for comparing LLMs.
Frummy
Man if this idea makes >500 bucks per month no offense I mean it positively you just motivated me to unironically create my somewhat as simple idea that was laughed at by literally everyone in a geek discord Like maybe the lowhanging fruit are actually hanging low
cr4zy
Thanks! I definitely recommend launching quickly and iterating.
edit: I should add, I'm making only $30/mo in subs, but I just launched so we'll see!
Frummy
You’re right. Thanks for sharing info openly, appreciated.
browningstreet
Holy run on Batman..
Write for LLMs indeed. (Tyler Cowan joke)
Frummy
Yeah sorry I see what you mean, usually enter for me makes newline but this was extreme
derekhsu
Seriously? Run a Open WebUI and get money?
catarinacbh
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Hello HN! I was fed up switching between multiple UIs to ask GPT, Claude, etc… the same question and comparing the answers. So I built a way to ask multiple models the same question efficiently by having the LLM compare the responses and only show you new and valuable information from the 2nd model. This way you still get a fast response as normal from the 1st model, but also get any added value provided by the 2nd model.
Initially I built my own UI to use this, but stumbled upon Open WebUI (formerly Ollama WebUI) which is fantastic, but is made more for local access to LLMs. So I talked to its creator, Timothy Baek, and he mentioned that security needed to be shored up before production deployment. I did some scans with semgrep, and fixed some XSRF and CORS issues along with making sure the JWT tokens, passwords, etc… were secure. This was in addition to other folks' amazing security contributions. So now we build on Open WebUI! oss ftw
After launching privately a month or so ago and posting a few reddit links, I have about 100 users.
We also just got access to the o1 API and provide o1-high, medium, and low effort. o1 high effort is able to solve coding problems that only o1 pro can also solve, though pro can go further and has better formatting, o1 high effort is a nice option if you don't want to fork over $200/mo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1i0r867/comment/m70...
You can use o1 for free in PolyChat, which is the only place I've seen you can do so.
You can also ask multiple models the same question and stream the answers simultaneously side by side. https://imgur.com/a/ly5ZPh8
And you can have multiple chats going simultaneously and they will continue in the background and notify you when they're done.
Another cool feature that makes long chats way easier to navigate is the overview (three dots on top right of chat) https://imgur.com/a/PoB1phT
We give you full control, unlike most providers, to change the system prompt, temperature, etc.. in the chat settings in the "Controls" on the top right.
The formatting for code outputs and inputs is fantastic, using codemirror, and you can run code in the code blocks if it's python or JS using in-browser runtimes.
You can also share chats within polychat where other logged in users can see them:
e.g. https://polychat.co/s/ec163812-9323-4cb5-a429-7ddeaf3572c3
Or you can share it publicly to the OpenWeb UI community
https://openwebui.com/c/crizcraig/e1b2fff9-30a3-4ee7-8eed-b2...
Finally we allow you to search and organize your chats into folders which makes finding things super fast!
Infra: My custom backend that combines models and does things Open WebUI doesn't handle like token tracking is written in FastAPI and uses LiteLLM for easily accessing different model APIs. I host everything on GCP using Cloud Run for the backend and use PostGres for Open WebUI's db, along with BigQuery and Firestore for my FastAPI app's db.
Pricing: Our pricing makes it cheap to access top models. It's free at first, then we offer subscription tiers starting at $5/mo which allots about ~1 million tokens per month, enough for most people. But unlike Claude's UI for example, we don't shut you down with rate limits, but rather let heavy users upgrade beyond to $10, $20, $40, $80, etc... We also suggest a plan based on how quickly you used your free tokens, so you have an idea upfront of the monthly cost before you buy. And you can upgrade or downgrade at any time.
Thanks Show HN <3