I'm Peter Roberts, immigration attorney, who does work for YC and startups. AMA
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·January 20, 2025papichulo4
Hey Peter! I wanted to thank you for doing this. I just got my green card last year, and it all kind of started with me asking you a question about H1B caps in a thread like this almost a decade ago. Super appreciate you doing this for people that are dreaming of a better future, dreaming of the American dream.
Wish you the best!
nickd2001
I know someone who has got a O1 visa to do freelance work, via an employer that has turned out to be dodgy. This employer is giving her mixed messages, on the one hand claiming to have cancelled her visa because she wasn't available for work exactly when the employer needed, on the other saying they haven't really cancelled the visa and she can carry on working for them. She now wonders whether her O-1 entry was during the 60-day grace period after it had been cancelled and thereby unlawful. She doesn't know whether she can legally continue to work because she cannot trust this employer. Compounding this is the fact that she's been engaged to an American for a while and is pregnant. She's now worried about having unwittingly done an illegal entry, and about being seen to have worked illegally, and how that would affect her adjustment of status. I know little of this but I suggested 2 things - (1) collect evidence of the games this employer is playing with you, and ask them to say in writing they haven't cancelled your visa, as proof that you entered the US in good faith and are not knowingly working illegally, (2) possibly contact USCIS directly to check whether the visa is still valid. Any comment on her situation and what she might do?
tivert
IANAL, but that sounds like a situation where you need hire an actual immigration attorney.
nickd2001
Agreed :) In case this helps anyone else, she's now talked to a lawyer. Sounds like a spouse of an American can get forgiven for everything anyway especially if they have a kid because otherwise the American would suffer e:g by being a single parent (strangely, being separated from their spouse isn't considered hardship...) I think the employer is playing games to control her and probably hasn't actually cancelled the visa. If she wasn't getting married of course, with the chance of being forgiven, that'd be more of a stress. So, anyone contemplating an O-1 visa, make sure your sponsor is decent!
kujin88
Hi Peter, thank you for doing this AMA. I am on H1B and I recently lost my job. I only have about 50 days left to get a new job but I have a spouse who is on his own H1B. I wanted to see and find out legal and smooth options to buy more time for myself to find a new job - If anything, it would be those options that do not need me to leave the country and get stamping, if at all. My country of citizenship is India, by the way. If you can help us out, it would be really great. Thank you.
proberts
The best and easiest option because your spouse is in H-1B status is to apply to change your status to dependent H-4 status using USCIS Form I-539. As long as this is filed during your grace period, you can remain in the U.S. while the application is pending/until it is approved.
safog
What happens if / when you eventually find a job? Can you file another change of status to a H1B? Does the status of the original change of status app matter? (e.g., can you apply for a COS to H1 while the COS to H4 is still pending?)
Thank you!
proberts
Yes, a COS from H-4 to H-1B is an option. However, if the H-4 COS is still pending, you might not be able to get the H-1B petition approved as a change of status but all this means is that to "activate" the approved H-1B petition, you would need to leave the U.S. and reenter with your existing visa stamp (obtained through the previous company) or leave the U.S. and apply for an H-1B visa (if you don't have a valid H-1B visa stamp obtained through the previous company).
akktor
Hi Peter! Thank you for doing this.
I'm a software engineer with 3 years of experience and a MSc degree in computer science. I'm currently working in a big tech company in the UK and I would like to move to the US in the near future. At the moment I'm more leaning toward an L1 because I don't have to go through the lottery but I'm exploring other scenarios. Would you recommend trying to move to the US with an L1 or an H1B? Does an L1 provide a path to a GC? What are the cons of an L1 visa compared to an H1B?
Again, many thanks!
proberts
The main advantage of the L-1 relative to the H-1B is that there's no lottery so the U.S. company can sponsor you for an L-1 at any time. The main advantages of the H-1B relative to the L-1 is that it's transferable from one company to another and can be renewed indefinitely if you are in the green card process. Regarding which one is better from a green card perspective, the response is that your underlying status has no bearing on your green card options so both are fine.
brit_in_america
I assume L1B because you mentioned “engineer” instead of “manager.”
I’m currently on an L1B visa, which is a three-year dual-intent visa extendable for another two years. This should provide ample time to initiate and complete a Green Card application under Employment-Based 2nd preference.
However, I would consider choosing the H1-B visa for the following reasons:
It’s getting harder to get L1-B because USCIS are asking more questions about if a candidate has specialized knowledge to meet the requirements.
The processing times for Green Cards and PERM are increasing and five years might not be enough in the near future. In that case you would need a very cooperative employer to allow you to continue the application via Consular Processing from the UK.
My own Green Card application began in 2022, and I’m not likely to receive it until 2026 due to the substantial backlog for applicants from the Rest of the World (ROW) category, which includes British-born individuals.
On an L1 visa, you’ll be tied to your current job until either your Employment Authorization Document (EAD) arrives and you have portability under AC21, you’re approved for an H1-B visa with a different employer (which will reset your Green Card application timeline); or you’re approved for a Green Card.
If you switch to an H1-B visa, you have the flexibility to change jobs before your Green Card is approved. You can also retain your Priority Date (PD), which represents your position in the Green Card queue, although you’ll need to restart all the steps of the process again. Additionally, your H1-B visa is extendable indefinitely after receiving an approved I-140 petition.
This immigration system here is a mess and it’s getting worse. Not to discourage you but this is the worst time for Brits to move here.
proberts
I was assuming that you qualified equally for both visas but from an outcome standpoint, if the employing U.S. company doesn't qualify as a "blanket L" company, then it can be very tough to get an L-1B visa (which is for professionals/non-managers) because the process goes through USCIS. So, from an outcome standpoint, unless the employing U.S. entity qualifies as a blanket L company, it's much easier to get an H-1B visa.
brit_in_america
I was rejected initially without a blanket petition and then approved after the blanket petition was in place.
My experience matches exactly what you have said.
One benefit I forgot to mention of L1 is that spouses can work incidental of status. L2S is essentially an open work permit but is tied to the validity of the L1 visa.
uhuruity
The problem with the H1B is, of course, winning the lottery. The odds are poor and generally getting worse each year. The L1B may be the only realistic option
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thiagocmoraes
My personal experience, and I think the optimal case, is to come on L1 but apply to H1B via consular interview. This way, if you're ever fired from your job, you use the H1B to get authorization to work in a new company (need to leave the US and get a visa in a consulate), while keeping L1 benefits as possible (spouse can work and no lottery).
uhuruity
Could you elaborate on this a bit more? If your company sponsors you to come on an L1 visa, how can you simultaneously apply for an H1B? And in any case, how can you get the H1B at all without winning the lottery (assuming your employer is subject to the cap)?
zamalek
I originally entered on an L1B and was affected by an acquisition layoff. I wasn't able to work until my EAD came through, which took forever due to a certain president who is currently back in power. The single employer limitation carries risks.
yandie
You can come on L1B and then try to get into the H1B lottery (will be tough since you don't have a US degree - I assume). I decided to go with L1B since H1B was impossible to get back then and the timeline worked in my favor.
I came to the US via L1B but went straight into green card. Unfortunately EB2 ROW is backlogged at the moment so you might be looking at 2-3 years. And if your company does lay off, they'd have to pause the PERM process for 6 months, which will add further delays to your timeline.
alsodumb
Hey Peter! Thanks for doing this!
I’m trying to understand the dual intent nature of O1A. I’m a PhD student with EB2-NIW and EB1A approved. Unfortunately, I am not expecting a green card in the next 6-12 years due to my country of birth.
I am eligible for O1A, but it seems like the dual-intent of O1A seems to be in grey area unlike H1B. Would I have any issues with O1A stamping in foreign embassies or during reentry given that I filed I-140 and showed immigration intent? Or is it safe to assume that O1A is also dual intent? Thanks!
proberts
It is grayish but during the past 20 years I've only had one instance where the Consulate pushed back on the issuance of an O-1 visa because the applicant had an approved I-140. That was over 10 years ago and even in that case, the O-1 was eventually issued. So, for all intents and purposes, the Consulates view the O-1 as a dual intent visa. Also, there's some preparation that you can do before applying for your O-1 visa and attending your O-1 visa appointment to minimize the risk if this issue is raised by the Consulate.
alsodumb
Thank you so much for the response! Could you share a bit more on what the preparation looks like? It’s something I’ve seen vaguely mentioned in forums but no one shared the specifics of the prep. Thanks!
proberts
That would require a short discussion - give and take - and I'd be happy to prepare you when you get to that point.
bhasi
If EB1A is approved, my understanding is that the applicant becomes "current" and eligible for the green card at once without any waiting in the queue regardless of country of birth. Is that not correct?
alsodumb
There’s a cap on how many EB1 green cards they give out per year, and there’s also a per country cap within that cap (no country cannot cross 7% of total cap)
Unfortunately, there are a lot of EB1C greencard applicants from my country (India) as the bar for L1 and EB1C is pretty low. Since all EB1 visas (EB1A, EB1B, and EB1C) are counted together towards the cap, that means that even though I required a muncher higher bar to qualify for EB1A, I have to wait in queue with all the EB1C applicants who applied before me.
Based on my estimate, it’ll be more than 6 years (or even more) for EB1A priority date to come to late 2024.
proberts
For those from China and India, based on the current backlogs, the process would take about 4-5 years; for those from every other country, there is no backlog in this category so the process could take less than 1 year.
desibanda
Don’t say unfortunately. With all due respect India needs such talent desperately and you don’t have to worry about 6 years!
Tteriffic
Most posted job positions in the US, that I see, explicitly state they will not sponser candidates. But how receptive are they to TN visa candidates and do you see that attitude changing in the near future?
proberts
That's mostly a knee-jerk ignorant position since it's oftentimes very easy, fast, and inexpensive to hire a Canadian in TN status. So it's a process of somehow getting through to someone at the company to educate them not to pass on a good candidate simply because they're Canadian. Which of course is a lot easier said than done.
xordon
Does this also apply to Mexican's wanting to get a TN as well, I've heard the process is slightly different?
proberts
It's a different process for Mexicans because they're not visa exempt like Canadians and so have to get a TN visa at a U.S. Consulate.
tinco
Would emigrating to Canada be a viable path for European citizens to eventually get a US work visa? If so, would it also be a path towards a green card?
midnightmonster
The law firm I work for (as lead software engineer) did the TN thing for a Canadian software engineer hire for my team last year. [I was not involved in the paperwork but] my understanding is we got an immigration lawyer to help us write everything the right way, since we had not done it before (and lawyers specialize), and it was not especially expensive and it all worked out quite quickly.
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kevinfinnerty34
Hi Peter! Thanks for doing this.
I'm a college dropout working as a SWE at one of the FAANG companies in Europe.
I understand that there are two paths I can take -- getting transferred by my company on an L-1B or try to compensate a degree with 12+ years of experience for an H1-B. Do you have any tips for people without degrees from what you've seen in practice? How often do you see people without a degree getting any of the visas?
Is there any chance I can get an o1 if I have a really good resume (10+ YOE, half of it at very-well-known companies)?
pclmulqdq
Isn't the O-1 visa (in tech fields) mostly for PhDs with a strong research track record? I would assume you can get one if you have a bunch of publications and citations without a PhD, but isn't that the usual path?
kevinfinnerty34
I guess you're right. I was under the impression that you can apply for the O-1 solely based on a successful career in tech, not necessarily academic success.
ahussain
You can definitely apply for an O-1 based on a successful career in tech: https://blog.awais.io/o1-visa
yorkshireChai
hey granted im not an expert like Peter is, But I have gone through a similar series of events as you are describing here. I transferred to the US on a L1B visa in 2022 and after an unfortunate round of layoffs late 2023 I scrambled for another role and managed to get sponsored and obtain O1 status. I had a good background of experience working on some prestigious products, a degree and written testimonials from people "high" up in my industry, studio heads, people high up in award academies etc. there may be extra steps for you as you don't have a degree (if I'm reading that right) but i believe you can prove you have had "equivalent training" to a degree maybe using your experience.
proberts
Thank you again for the great questions and discussion. I'm taking a break now and will return in about an hour. If I miss any questions before the AMA ends today, I'll do my best to respond tomorrow
ddtaylor
Thanks, Peter.
Do you think a state like Oregon can continue to have a state constitution it does with support for immigration as a sanctuary, etc. or is Oregon supposed to be more duty bound by local state constitution? What happens when they are mutually exclusive or the federal government gives orders that are unlawful locally? Does this become a 10th amendment issue?
proberts
Good question and I don't know the answer but this is sure to be a battleground in the coming years, states refusing to enforce federal law or to act as agents of the federal government.
rayiner
It’s well established that the federal government can’t press state officials and employees into the service of enforcing federal law.
The upcoming conflict, however, is going to be about a different issue: state and local governments actually interfering with and hindering the enforcement of federal law. I suspect that is going to get smacked down hard on supremacy clause grounds.
ddtaylor
My concern is that for blue states, like Oregon, the funding is tied up in federal money. They will withhold and play games and I don't know if Oregon has the "willpower" to avoid mutating their ideals in an effort to keep their kids in school and keep renting houses.
spondylosaurus
Well, since "federal law can't impose on state law" has been the SCOTUS party line for the last X years, we might as well use that line of reasoning here...
pclmulqdq
Where did you get that from? Federal laws usually do override state laws. Whether the states have to help enforce federal law is a different question, though, and seems to be a "no" given the examples of marijuana and immigration.
ddtaylor
That's not a new party line or anything that is the 10th amendment:
> The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
golergka
I'm working on my O1 visa and I'm nervous about my portfolio. I'm a developer with plenty of experience, but never spoke at conferences, blogged, or was public. I hires lawyers for the paperwork, but the publicist they recommended me started doing “articles” that just scream fake. I decided to get my own, real stuff instead.
What things are the best from POV of effort/benefit? Open source projects, talks, podcasts, blogging, posts on community sites like devs? Trying to build my own dev-centric twitter, YouTube, something else? I know how to build stuff, but I know very little about all of this stuff.
proberts
Podcasts, blogs, posts matter little and talks are only marginally helpful. The lowest hanging criteria are essential roles for distinguished organization, high compensation, press, and judging (either serving as a reviewer for an academic journal or conference or serving as a judge at a competition or event, such as a hackathon or startup/business competition). By the way, your gut is right; USCIS is sensitive to fake/manufactured press and this can undermine an otherwise strong petition.
golergka
Thank you! What kind of press would I go for? And how would an engineer typically get to the judging roles like these?
proberts
While the publication doesn't have to be a country's or industry's largest, it shouldn't be too small and for the press to count, it must be about you and your work or quote you. Regarding your second question, I don't know the answer unfortunately although I do know that there are a lot of such events.
lterrac
Hello, I am a computer science research engineer with 2 years of experience in a non-U.S. big tech company research center in Europe. Before that, I worked as a research fellow at the university after I got my master degree. During that time I published 4 papers, and I was a reviewer for a CS journal (even though I actually reviewed only 1 paper). I actually have 60-70 citations of my works (if it might be relevant in any way). What are my chances to get an O-1 visa? Thanks in advance for your time
proberts
Very high.
mizzao
What do you think will change for folks who are paroled under Uniting for Ukraine (https://www.uscis.gov/ukraine)?
proberts
That's a really good question and of concern to a lot of people. No one knows at this point but the concern is that the new administration will kill the program or at a minimum modify/restrict it.
I'll be here for the next 3 hours and then again at around 4 pm EST for another 3 hours. As usual, there are many possible topics and I'll be guided by whatever you're concerned with but as much as possible - because we've received so many questions about this the past few months - I'd like to focus on the impact of the new administration on U.S. immigration law and policy. Please remember that I can't provide legal advice on specific cases for liability reasons because I won't have access to all the facts. Please stick to a factual discussion in your questions and comments and I'll try to do the same in my answers. Thanks!
Edit: Thank you again for the great questions and discussion. I'm taking a break now and will return in about an hour. If I miss any questions before the AMA ends today, I'll do my best to respond tomorrow