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Project Mini Rack – compact and portable homelabs

toprerules

The one thing I don't understand about these Pi based mini-racks is why you would build a home lab that's less powerful than your client devices. My 24 U rack exists precisely because I want on demand, large amounts of compute/GPU for compiling, transcoding, encrypting, etc. and the cloud is too expensive. If you're going to make the investment into any type of home labbing, why gimp yourself with devices that can only run small services you could run on a single old desktop using containers?

lotharcable2

> The one thing I don't understand about these Pi based mini-racks is why you would build a home lab that's less powerful than your client devices.

It makes sense because you are unlikely to run production workloads at home.

So you don't really need a half a terabyte of RAM and a 220v power supply for the world's most expensive electric space heater.

Instead people are most often interested in developing infrastructure-as-code or testing deployment strategies or doing tests to see what happens when outages happen. Logging, metrics collecting, simulating network failure, simulating software attacks. etc.

In most of those cases having a number of smaller machines makes more sense then trying to emulate a small datacenter on a one or two big ones.

In practice I think most people end up with 2 or 3 'big machines' for times when they do need the Umph or want to have a big storage array for their "linux ISO collections". Then having a number of Pis or HP mini desktops in arrays is just for good fun.

If I want to simulate full blown workloads and benchmarking then I can just use AWS or Azure for that. A lot cheaper to lease verts for a evening or two, then buy big machines and leaving them idle 99.8% of the time.

monkmartinez

I generally agree with this sentiment and have struggled to put it into words. I have a beefy Dell Precision that I bought used for $200. This is where I simulate all the things; networking, container orchestration, services and more. I have upgraded to 128GB of ECC RAM, PCIe NVMe drives, and a 24GB quadro card. All in, I have about $800 invested. It's brittle as it is also my desktop so I delay updates and what not because I don't want to break anything. Not ideal.

So, now I am left with building another system and I need to decide form factor. Is this going to be headless or run a GUI of some kind with a monitor attached? Should I buy a big ole tower case or move to a 6u or 12u rack system. I want more VRAM and I need as much PCIe as possible. One thing for sure is that I don't want it to be Raspberry Pi based. I have two Pi4 collecting dust that were fun and impressive for what they are.

I saw these mini racks and wondered how they would work with an extended ATX board. Could these be useful as some kind of "open air" or mining type case where you simply bolt stuff on. Definitely going to investigate, so while the exact application of mini-racking pi's is not my jam, I am thankful that it was brought up.

j45

This is a great deal, if those kinds of parts could be moved into a rack pc type case, your computer could just go sideways.

Or you could just put the dell sideways on a rack shelf and be ok with it for now... while you decide what will go there.

nickthegreek

I have a HP EliteDesk (kinda like a n100) running Home Assistant and a pi4 running piHole. A lil mini rack can tidy this all up while also having room for a NVIDIA Digits and maybe a NAS. Its for hobbyists and people without alot of space. You can have a bunch of low power/low noise systems in a tiny little rack. I think it rocks.

irskep

In my case, it's because all my client devices are laptops, or locked down like Apple TV. It's nice to have a low-stakes experimentation box that can also be a Jellyfin server.

On the other hand, I don't go to the trouble this guy goes to. I just have a cheap mini PC plugged into Ethernet sitting on top of my router.

opan

Low power device to leave on all the time, particularly for people who don't leave their clients on all the time. Like a router, but more versatile (although with a better OS on it, an actual router may do the same job).

nordsieck

I feel like an m-series mac mini would be a really good fit for that - plenty of juice for when you need it, but very low idle power draw. The small size (especially for the m4 version) is an added benefit.

walterbell

M4 Mac Mini will be a good low-power LLM (e.g. photo semantic search) NAS once Asahi Linux supports USB/Thunderbolt storage.

toprerules

You can buy a Synology NAS for less than the cost of this rack and it will do everything this rack can do including running containers. You can build your own NAS and run Unraid or FreeNAS or what have you for even less.

Arrowmaster

As an owner of a Synology NAS, it's woefully behind on updates. The kernel is 4.4 and the docker version is probably two years old. Yes it works good for a beginner one system does all solution but you quickly out grow it.

numpad0

Or you can have that in a "rack" aesthetics and pretend you run a datacenter. The end result is negligibly different.

geerlingguy

Just a nit; the mini rack has nothing to do with Pis per-se. One of the racks in the post features a Radxa N100 as the primary node, and other builds in the showcase feature various mini PCs (new and quite old). All of which have a lot more oomph than a Pi.

There are also other Arm SBCs that are much faster (and more efficient) than a Pi, like the Orange Pi 5 Max. Many homelab-related apps run just as well if not better on that, just have to make sure to settle on a supported OS distro.

Zanfa

I don’t think most people have the space to fit a 24U rack at home. Or tolerate the noise and power consumption of typical 19” hardware. Or cost.

j45

24U is about half a rack? 3 feet tall or so. Now, there can be a full length rack (or cage) that has 4 posts, or there's short racks too with just the front 2 posts that can shrink the footprint a lot. This is totally reasonable to find used most places.

Noise and Power Consumption is a huge consideration. I think about it as cost of gpu or computing power per watt. While the information might not be out there, USFF devices like a one or a few Lenovo Thinkcentre m920q works pretty flawlessly with Proxmox or anything else. For a rack, they can be treated as quasi blade servers on a shelf stacked in a rack, or some cases as well. Again, up to most people

These types of USFF devices often have a desktop grade cpu in a mobile setup that is engineering/industrial grade built, and 130w power supplies, and mostly idling. There are newer generations of these types of devices from most of the manufacturers too.

Cost of electricity does add up, but more than that, keeping your wattage footprint low lets you use a more reasonable UPS for battery backup power, if there is a need, it can all stay up much, much longer.

sliken

Maybe you want to configure 4 nodes to provide redundant network service.

Or experiment with VLANs, firewalls, QOS, and related. Sure transcoding multiple 4k video streams is intensive, but there's plenty to be learned about performance, networking, configuration management, DNS, fallover, network storage, rolling upgrades, SSL certs, VPN endpoints, and 100 other network services that run easily on today's SBCs.

Plenty to be learned with a handful of cheap linux boxes and even a RPI5 or RK3588 is quite capable. Sure not state of the art today, but home lab != hyperscaler, but just might help get you are job at one.

dchuk

I have zero need for a portable raspberry pi cluster but damn is this cool anyway.

Also, I learned about this device from this post and immediately bought one for my existing home server remote access: https://jetkvm.com/

walterbell

geerlingguy

The code is on their GitHub: https://github.com/jetkvm/kvm (almost everything up, not sure about the base image yet, but they said it's coming).

I'll mention the broken link on their Discord.

BeefWellington

This is less about the Pi and more about the form factor.

JKCalhoun

Yeah, I have zero need too ... until there is no power where I live. Thinking the prepper-minded might like the idea of an off-grid network.

walrus01

There are a few pseudo standards for "half width" 1U devices, one of the more notable vendors is mikrotik which makes devices that can be mounted as two units in 1U.

https://mikrotik.com/product/rmk2_10

looks like this: https://cdn.mikrotik.com/web-assets/rb_images/2242_hi_res.pn...

I wish there was some kind of firmly defined standard for exactly half of a 1U width so that different manufacturers' devices could be attached together.

ianburrell

The 10" rack is the de facto standard half-width rack. It uses the same spacing as 19" inch racks. My understanding is that two 8.75" devices fit in 19" rack with mounting bracket in the center.

roflchoppa

It’s the storage factor that is appealing to me. Gone are the days of 4 devices sprawled in the closet…

Holy moly these are getting expensive 1k for something that goes in the closet is wild.

This was posted a while back, it has some good resources.

https://loganmarchione.com/2021/01/homelab-10-mini-rack/

rahimnathwani

It's interesting that he linked an inexpensive "260W GaN USB-C Charging Station".

It's less than $30 with a coupon, which seems to good to be true.

A look at the Amazon 2-star reviews suggests it has good build quality but can only output 75W to 100W total, not 260W as advertised.

rcarmo

This is cute, but there should be some kind of affordances for wall mounting or hanging it inside a closet. The emphasis on portability is… OK, I guess, but unlikely to ever be relevant for most people doing homelabs.

disambiguation

This feels kind of like a miniature train model, but for data centers. It's cool and all, but it offers neither storage, compute, or networking in a way that I would consider paying that price tag.

rcarmo

I think the real counterpoint is that you can built a single-box homelab using something like this: https://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2024/12/26/2330 … and never need another box.

disambiguation

Yes exactly, things like this, or synology, old Dell server blades, even a Mac mini. There are many (reasonable priced) products available for homelab adventures. Again the pi concept here is cool, but you can easily get something twice as strong for half the price.

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