I've acquired a new superpower
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·January 10, 2025Workaccount2
duxup
>Probably my peak fame right there.
My son and I always make jokes about everyone's 5 minutes of fame. Some random person on the jumbotron at a sporting event "Yup, there's his moment, it's over now."
At least yours got you something ;)
animal531
I once accidentally dropped a glass that was about half full of water and I somehow managed to catch it with the side of my foot without spilling any.
Sadly no one saw this 'feet'.
madaxe_again
I did that once in my dorm room - then I dropped the glass and promptly stood on it. I actually gave myself a round of applause before going to get my foot sewn back together.
klondike_klive
One of my dad's sayings when somebody in a film delivered a line and then disappeared was "6 months rehearsal for that."
jvm___
I envision happy families watching the end credits for Dad's name as Third Assistant Caterer on a big budget film.
brightball
The swordsman in Indiana Jones comes to mind.
The guy famously trained for months for the fight scene and a tired Harrison Ford just pulled out the gun and shot him. Everybody thought it was hilarious and that became the scene.
arwhatever
A funny quip from mst3k was “their whole family probably gathered in front of the tv to watch them deliver that 1 line.”
xanderlewis
That is a very Dad thing to say.
scrozier
You may or may not be aware that Andy Warhol famously quipped that, "in the future, everyone will be famous for 15 minutes," back in the late 1960s. As media has gotten to be ever more ubiquitous and the cost of entry lower, he was clearly onto something decades before the internet!
sslalready
And then there’s Banksy’s “in the future, everyone will be anonymous for 15 minutes“. For pretty much the same reasons you stated above, I assume.
pzs
To update this excellent quote to 2025, change minutes to seconds and you just described TikTok.
14
Lol once I 3d printed my daughter a “Rocktopus”. It was a model of Dwane Johnson “the Rock” head with articulating octopus arms a cool 3d print that was funny. Anyways she took it and painted it all up and then glued on fake eye lashes and makeup on it. She then made a video to TikTok or snap I forget and it went viral getting like a million views. I could see that made her happy like a dopamine hit so told her that it was fun but to just be careful and that she is awesome and not to stress if random people on the internet don’t validate her feelings. She has me beat though I think my highest upvoted post was like 15k or so on reddit for something satirical and dumb. Feels good in the moment.
warner25
Totally indulging in this side discussion: I remember thinking in high school and college that fame was the end-all of life, telling people that my goal was to have my own Wikipedia page. I saw it as something like the combination of being a "cool kid" (but for, you know, the whole of society instead of just one's school) and a sort of immortality.
Anyway, over the last couple of decades as an adult, besides realizing the obvious - how terribly shallow that is, and missing so much of what's really good in life - I've realized how fleeting fame seems to be even for the truly famous. Even looking over the list of US Presidents (never mind lesser political figures like VPs, cabinet members, congressmen, etc.) as someone who has always been interested in history, I look at some names and think, "who?" or "I've heard the name, but know nothing about him." I mean, of course you can still read about them, but that even a US President can be largely forgotten as a household name within 250 years is really a stunning thing to think about; they are ultimately no more immortal than someone who only has their name in a genealogy database or on a grave marker.
Gollapalli
I think the desire for fame isn't an inherently bad thing.
> He was the man most gracious and fair-minded, > Kindest to his people and keenest to win fame.
Those are the last lines of Beowulf. A man who won great fame among his people by slaying monsters and dragons. It's telling that the final line of the poem ends with his most dominant trait, "and keenest to win fame." Wanting fame is not wrong, and is far from shallow. The question is, "fame for what?" Regardless of whether you think Beowulf existed or not, it's telling that for a whole culture that the most important characteristic of a great man in one of their great poemsis "keenness to win fame," almost as a wink, with the bard saying "and if you want to be sung like this hero, you must desire fame just as keenly, and so do great deeds."
telchior
Length of remembrance aside, the idea of fame as immortality has always confused me on different grounds. It's not how fame works: we remember factoids, not people. It's a bit different if the fame is a work of art, but then the thing with immortality (sort of) is the art, not the person that made it. I might remember 7 things about Teddy Roosevelt, which are admittedly very cool and impressive things, but those things do nothing to represent the complex individual he actually was.
This may be something I'm making up, but I have the feeling that the fame = immortality concept came out of legacy: people wanting to create a family that continues on after themselves (and is rich, powerful, etc). Which makes sense, because then we're talking about a logical extension of the reproductive instinct. But in the modern world even that seems unreachable to me: we're so utterly different from our grandparents that we might as well be aliens, and the same will probably hold true for our own grandchildren.
I guess all that puts me in the Mike Tyson school of thought on legacy: "We're just dead. We're dust. We're absolutely nothing."
Lio
We are all doomed to be forgotten.
Even if you are remembered briefly, what’s remembered isn’t you it’s just some vague representation of you that will fade over time.
Some famous Roman emperor might have said something similar 2000 years ago for all I know but I forget his name. :P
8bitbeep
It’s a know phenomenon. A friend of mine had a reasonably important public office position. Always on the phone, constantly demanded, giving interviews, etc. The first few months after a change in administration were a great relief. A year after being let go and he was devastated. No one called, knew or cared who he was. There’s probably a name for this syndrome.
anigbrowl
Except that if you become curious about, say, Benjamin Harrison you can go look up his Wikipedia page and I presume find one or more books about him. The person who is just listed somewhere such as a genealogy database is just a name, unless you choose to do an elaborate and expensive research project on them to figure out who they were and what they did.
Snoozus
That's just because US presidents are not very important.
Humanity will not forget Newton, Einstein, Shannon and Crick. And up to a point, trying to do what they did, discover new things about the universe is not an unhealthy goal.
econ
IMHO one should only desire to become Confucius level famous. The kind where you don't need validation to know you've done something interesting.
MarcusE1W
I think it depends a bit more on what you do, than your role. As you mentioned, being President of the USA is not even enough.
And yet you might be able to list some Roman Emperors, for good or bad (Cesar, Augustus) or even politicians (Cicero, may e Seneca) after 2000 years.
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soco
I can't overlap the images to save my life - they get like halfway there and that's it...
smusamashah
There is a way to help yourself.
Put the pair of images in front of your eyes.
Bring your finger between your face and the image.
Now look at your finger.
Move your finger back and forth.
While doing this, notice that at a particular distance, the images in background will perfectly overlap each other.
That's your moment.
Pull out your finger and look at that image.
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Should take lot less tries to learn doing it without finger. I have taught cross eye to my siblings and cousins using this method. But if you always need finger to focus it's fine.
MiddleEndian
I knew about this cross-eyed trick, I've tried it with a finger too, I just cannot do it. I've only ever succeeded in one "magic eye" picture in my life as well.
I have otherwise good vision, I can read small text from farther than most people (I didn't realize not everyone could read all the small letters on an eye test), I don't have a problem seeing things up close either, etc. but I lack the ability to properly cross my eyes for some reason.
It's too bad because I've spent a decent amount of time at bars with those spot the difference machines lol
AzzieElbab
When I was six, some older kid showed me this trick, but I could never really cross my eyes. These days, I wear glasses, so I guess no new superpowers for me.
thayne
I tried, this, and I can get it to overlap in the background, but as soon as I take my finger away, I lose it.
scrozier
The finger trick did it for me. As mentioned elsewhere, I used to do this academically (looking at protein structures), but I couldn't easily get back in the groove here without the finger.
PaulHoule
It's like
https://triaxes.com/docs/3DTheory-en/522ParallelCrosseyedvie...
which some people struggle with, somebody posted a
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autostereogram
to HN yesterday which some people get and others don't. (That's different from the "cross-eyed stereogram" because one of them involves having two images and the other one has one image with two images hidden in it)
mhitza
I can understand why it's hard for some. I've landed on that wiki page a while ago and couldn't figure it out. Then found a similar thing on an itch.io page that was easier for me to figure out.
In these later examples (starting with the easy puzzle of the OP, and your 3d examples), I find that I do the process in two stages.
Unfocus my sight until the third image shows up in the middle at the correct size (as a blurry mess). Then try to focus the center image.
jcul
Really interesting. I never knew how those old magic eye images work.
It makes me wonder if the wall-eyed version could be useful for eye health.
I've often heard when doing computer work, you should focus on something 20 meters away for 20 seconds, every 20 minutes.
Doing a wall-eyed magic eye seems like the same thing physically, your focal point is much further away.
Would be cool to have some software that lets you overlap two coding windows, so you have a 3d terminal.
tartoran
I have a big problem crossing my eyes too while having no problem with the parallel view way seeing stereograms. I am actually going to stop trying as my eyes started to hurt.
Ericson2314
That was me at first.
I think the "cross eyed" phrase is a bit ambiguous.
What I ended up with (I think) is a focal point not closer than the screen but farther than it. My eyes didn't want to do it at first but then they did.
What is weird about it is the focusing and focal point are out of sync --- my brain can do it but the weird feeling is one of "gosh, this thing is a lot closer than it should be" where "should be" is based on focal point, and "is a lot closer" is based on focus.
Don't want to do this too much, feels like I could easily decalibrate my brain for real life lol.
nwatson
That focus-farther-than-the-page works (for most people) as long as the distance between the (center of each of the) two images on the page is smaller than your interpupillary distance. In this case the left eye will see the left image, the right eye the right image, in the overlaid resolved image.
For most people, having the images resolve in front of the plane of the page such that in resolved overlaid image the right eye sees the left image, and the left eye sees the right image, will work ... and it can work even if the images are farther apart than the interpupillary distance.
sundarurfriend
This helped me more than any other comment here, but I've still not got them fully overlapping. (Probably just a matter of practice/trials at this point, to be fair.)
loco5niner
Here's another trick: open the image in a browser, then zoom out. The smaller the image (up to a point and you can find a sweet spot) the easier it is to get them to overlap. Once you've got it, slowly zoom in a bit at a time, re-acquiring the overlap at each stage.
rwmj
I spent far too much time as a twenty-something generating autostereograms, which seems to have trained my eyes. I was able to "cross" the images on this page very quickly.
KPGv2
NB autostereograms require you to move your eyes away from each other, the opposite of crossing them. To put it another way, crossing your eyes is what your eyes do when you're looking at something close to you, while the opposite is when you're looking far away.
Which is why for ASGs people advise you to look past the picture. Or why you bring the pic close to your eyes (so close that you basically have no choice but to look beyond the picture)
antihero
Is that the crossy-eye porn?
jeffhuys
Don’t CROSS them. Relax them, like you’re tired and can’t focus on a computer screen.
arka2147483647
You can actually do it both ways, but which is easiest for whom is different.
jeffhuys
Also keep the size low. If you’re having a hard time at 20cm from a 4k 30” monitor, it won’t come easy. Zoom out.
raffraffraff
I cross them first, then slowly relax them and as the two pupils start to move slowly back out I tell myself that the middle image is further away and "real".
jjk7
It helps me to see the depth and then properly focus to cross them very slightly to start, then as I see the image my eyes adjust to pull it in focus properly.
emmelaich
Yep, I didn't need to fully cross them. Which is good, because that is painful.
hk__2
There are two methods, either you cross them either you do like you’re describing.
OzFreedom
Same as in autostereogram, the trick is to look to the distance. Close your eyes and imagine a mountain far away or some distant object, notice how your eyes adjust to see it. Open your eyes and try to look at this imaginary mountain while the image is in front of you. When you see the third Image, treat it as if its a distant 3d object somewhere on the horizon.
glxxyz
When I brought an early autostereogram in to school in the early '90s my high school Physics teacher refused to try it as he thought it sounded impossible. He thought we were all in on it as we 'got it' one after another.
waffletower
That happened to me too but I persisted and eventually succeeded. I think I needed to cross my eyes slightly more than I was initially. I have been diagnosed with a minor eye convergence issue which makes it difficult to focus on near field objects in motion -- gaining this superpower was difficult but I did it without a headache thankfully.
lenkite
Failed to perform the technique despite multiple retries, but didn't have any issues spotting differences the normal way for all except the impossible mode - which just felt like it would be tedious.
My usual method is just to brute-force linear scan from left to right, top-to-bottom. May not be elegant, but it works.
K0balt
Fun fact- when I was a teenager, my friends and I set up a stand in a local mall selling those “magic eye”posters. We made bank for a few months. But, there are actually a lot of people that medically cannot use the technique, or at least for whom it is extremely difficult or less vivid. Severe astigmatism, (obviously) blindness in one or more eyes, and certain attention deficits or fidgety types often have a difficult time.
I, on the other hand, 37 years later,am basically permanently crosseyed from the experience lol. It somehow became a resting state for me from all of the practice, so I’m always doing it on any kind of repetitive patterns, and even “successfully” on random ones which does some really weird stuff in your visual cortex.
mauvehaus
How bad does your astigmatism have to be? I've only ever been able to get one magic eye poster to work for me in my life, and I had no idea astigmatism had any impact until just now! I don't know if mine counts as severe, but this would explain a lot for me.
As it happens, I also can't focus on the images in TFA after crossing my eyes to get the shimmer the author refers to.
ElijahLynn
Took me about 10m total to get it all the way to impossible mode. I think you can do it!
mcv
Same here. I can get the images to overlap; it feels like a stereoscopic image that lies a bit beyond the screen. But the differences don't pop out to me. I have less trouble finding them looking normally.
redcobra762
...except as you say, it didn't work. The "eye-cross" trick gave the answer on the impossible one in ~10 seconds.
NoMoreNicksLeft
The impossible one was sub-2-seconds for me. I had to do it over to make sure it wasn't more than one difference...
Makes you wonder if the kid he was talking about had a lazy eye or crossed eyes or something.
hgomersall
The impossible one was quite tricky, but I did find I was able to relax into the image and take my time. Probably took about 10 seconds.
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throwaway743
Just got a funny visual of someone going crosseyed and focused on overcoming a challenge in front of them, with a crowd of people cheering them on.
14
Sadly I was never able to gain anything from this trick other than my kids admiration. Often times kids menus at restaurants will have a spot the difference and I can see everything instantly doing this. Impressive to a kid but this girl in the video was obviously doing the same thing and does not impress me.
sschwa12
This is my peak fame as well. I had the high score on every one of these I've played using this method. My friends were always try to figure out how we could make money doing it...
The game is usually called 'Photo Hunt'
bluedino
Those Megatouch systems run Linux! Lots of fun messages to read on the credits screen or when you reboot them.
hoistbypetard
I haven't seen one in several years, but they always used to run Red Hat, based on the boot screens.
lxe
I was about to post this same exact post :)
Was the high score holder on there for a few years.
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iforgotpassword
We got a magic eye book when I was maybe 6 - some time early elementary school. After learning how to do it, and also trying it by crossing my eyes to see an "inverted" image, I started doing it whenever I saw some repeating pattern IRL. It was most interesting when it was slightly uneven, for example a fence with sloppily applied vertical planks. Doing the magic eye would make it seem like some of them are closer to you than others. Eventually I tried the same on those "spot the difference" games since well it seemed kinda obvious to try, and I was blown away that it accidentally gave me that "superpower". I think that was pretty smart for a 6yo. Has only gone downhill ever since. ;-)
satvikpendem
Now try it with various colors, some people can see "impossible" colors [0].
[0] https://preview.redd.it/yaiyf2bi9aa31.png?width=640&auto=web...
bluSCALE4
Neat, the colors only blade when perfectly aligned.
xamuel
I wrote a paper about doing this using human eyes as the "repeating pattern" (either someone else's, or your own in a mirror): https://philpapers.org/archive/ALEDSK.pdf ...You can use this trick to make boring meetings or conversations mildly more amusing (but be careful not to look like a clown crossing your eyes).
If you're an expert at this, you can even do it to your own hands. Hold both hands in front of you but with one of them palm-away and one of them palm-toward you, so that they have the same shape, then cross- or parallel-view them to get an illusionary middle third hand. Walk around while focusing on the third hand and it's a seriously trippy effect.
Another "super power" application similar to OP: the ability to confirm whether or not two distant digital clocks' seconds-digits are perfectly in sync. Since they're distant, it takes time to shift one's gaze from one to the other, making it hard to confirm whether they're in sync. But cross your eyes so as to reduce the distance, and voila.
Yet another application: quickly assume the same head-tilt angle as your conversation partner. Suppose they tilt their head to the left by N degrees and you want to tilt yours the same way, how can you be sure you have the exact correct tilt? Easy: parallel-view their eyes (as described in the aforementioned paper). You will HAVE to tilt your head the same as them in order to see their "third eye" (and once you've locked on to their third eye, you can effortlessly adjust your head tilt as they do by using their third eye as the necessary guide)
mensetmanusman
Peak HN.
Stereogramming your colleagues eyes during boring meetings.
Ha
Edit: I accidentally did something similar by imaging the crease on an N95 mask as a smile near their nose. It made them look like ducks and I had to bite my tongue so hard to not laugh. I could not unsee it.
BenjiWiebe
If you're distant enough / the people are sitting close enough, you can stereogram two people's faces together. You usually only get fleeting moments of crispness when their heads are aligned correctly though.
xamuel
Yep! If I knew someone IRL who was into this kind of stuff, I'd really love to experiment with this sort of thing and mirrors. Arrange so that you can stereogram your conversation partner's face with a mirror image of your own face (and that he can do the same with your face and a mirror image of his face). If anyone's in NYC and interested in these sorts of things, my email is in my HN profile "about".
Shocka1
When I read about Gauss basically inventing Arithmetic Progression at seven years old it gives me similar vibes. What led him to see a different way in adding the numbers 1 to 100? Surely he could have visualized it on his own in an abstract manner, but I tend to wonder if he had a similar enlightening experience like yours.
dclowd9901
Yep, this is exactly what came to mind with this "newly unlocked superpower".
I wonder if OP is aware they made a joke about the inability to use this superpower to identify a sailboat in a 90s indie movie.
effingwewt
Ethan Suplee is a personal hero of mine. I've been watching him in movies since clerks, and felt bad as I saw him continue to get bigger. When he started his transformation some gym bros posted it to some forums we inhabit. He didn't want to be all public about it since he'd yoyo'd before, but we cheered him on online. When I saw he'd gone public I was so happy for him. His pic now hangs in my home gym with Arnold and Ronnie.
riffraff
I have never been able to see stereograms (I think because I have an eye which is far "stronger" than the other) and that movie made me feel seen.
tonyarkles
It’s a schooner!
makeworld
Wow I feel like I've never seen anyone talk about this. Doing it with fences can feel pretty magical, like the object is more "real" than other things.
BenjiWiebe
Or the side of a shopping cart.
myself248
The repeating punched hole pattern on the ceiling/headliner of a '77 Suburban...
charlieyu1
I can never do it. Always find it amusing when another kid knows how to do it.
nayuki
I discovered this trick independently about a decade ago, to use cross-eyed viewing to easily spot differences between two similar images. Like you said, the parts that mismatch appear to shimmer and be unstable, making them obvious.
However, I feel eye strain from doing it, so I prefer other methods. 99% of the time, I do https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink_comparator instead, just switching between two images with zero flicker and zero displacement offset. Also with both eyes, it's easier to spot certain kinds of subtle differences like color shifts, JPEG-like compression artifacts, tiny differences in antialiased renderings, etc.
One benefit of the cross-eyed method, though, is that you can difference videos. But the use case for that is rarer than differencing images.
NortySpock
I'll second the blink comparator method as a simple diff checker, or when comparing two chunks of code that are structured exactly the same way but somehow behave differently. (e.g. "what's the difference between these two functions" or "how is this yaml block different from that yaml block"?)
Line them up as two tabs in the editor, flip very rapidly between the two repeatedly, and usually the difference is apparent in 5-6 flips.
jeffhuys
To reduce eye strain, don’t cross your eyes, but relax them (so, the other way). Instantly clear and snaps together as if magnetic.
claiir
This is called “divergence” [1] and is less straining on your eyes than crossing them (“convergence” [2]) while being equally as effective spotting differences, even on video. It’s also what your eyes naturally do when you watch stereoscopic 3D with tinted glasses—the stereoscopic images are pulled out (divergence) not pushed in (convergence/cross-eyed). I’ve been doing this since I childhood. If you get good at it, you can watch side-by-side 3D videos in 3D with just your naked eye (e.g. VR). I believe there’s a reddit covering the more prurient variety of that!
stavros
The only problem with divergence is that you can't go too much farther out than the distance between your eyes, whereas convergence works for larger images as well.
joshuaissac
Convergence highlighted the differences for me in all four images.
Divergence only worked for me in the cat bear image. For the others, I could see a combined image but I could not see any differences highlighted, even though I knew what to look for.
prmph
A simple trick to doing this, in case it's not clear how to do it, is to try focusing on an imaginary point behind the screen as you look at the images. You will see a third image between the two start to come into focus. Now relax your eyes and look at that image. Simple, and quite a bit more relaxing than crossing your eyes.
The only disadvantage to this method is that it seems there is a limit to how wide the middle image can be, i.e., the original images may not completely overlap.
If you do want to cross your eyes but do not know how to do it, do the opposite of the above: try to focus on an imaginary point closer to you than the screen as you look at the images. This method is far more taxing on the eyes though.
mewpmewp2
I was still unable to do this, not sure what I am doing wrong, but I can't get over the sense that I am always directing only one of my eyes. I can't move them independently.
tartoran
The problem I have with this is that instead of the images completely overlapping they overlap a section in the middle. I can't get both images to completely overlap and am getting some eye strain from trying to force them.
gnclmorais
By ready your comment, I just realised that this is what I’m doing instinctively, instead of crossing my eyes :o
Sharlin
A blink comparator would be a much better GUI tool for comparing photos (for example original vs. post-processed) than the standard "left half-right half" with a movable divider. Alas, it’s rarely used (eg. Lightroom’s compare view doesn’t have one).
biot
Fun fact: it's a different device, but the principle is the same as the device used in the documentary Tim's Vermeer. It results in the images overlapping between your left and right eye and you simply paint until the difference goes away.
the__alchemist
If you've done Magic Eyes, this is straightforward. Was able to get all 3 of the test images quickly.
This is with focusing beyond the screen. Focusing in front of the screen is something I am unable to do, and not for want of effort.
Also, your eyes might accidentally do this if looking at tiled patterns, e.g. wallpaper.
Relative image size (e.g. view distance) is important.
johnthedebs
As a kid, I got a Magic Eye book and learned to see it by crossing my eyes (ie, focusing in front of the screen). I thought it was pretty interesting when I realized that I was seeing all the images inverted ("peaks" were "valleys" and vice versa) due to the way I was focusing. Alas, I never was able to see the images "correctly".
kayge
It's funny because even if you do the Magic Eye pictures "correctly" (focusing past them) you can still get funky images by going too far and locking the surrounding pattern a second time. If I remember right the first time I did this was on a heart picture (similar to [0]), which ends up looking like a big puffy W stacked on top of a slightly larger puffy W :D
[0] https://i0.wp.com/www.magiceye.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/1...
teleforce
Thanks that's one of the beautifully crafted magic eye images, bring me back memories about 20 years ago when it was a craze.
lynguist
I think I just locked the pattern also a third time where it looks like pillars but I’m not sure if I saw it correctly.
When I first looked at this picture I saw the W pattern and then blinked and suddenly saw the intended pattern.
When you lock on the non-intended ones it feels somehow like a secret/forbidden path you shouldn’t go, like consuming drugs.
SamBam
Are you sure that's supposed to be a heart? I see the three peaks of a "W" as well -- I think it's supposed to be a tulip, no? That also matches the background theme.
MetaMonk
You can also cross your eyes the other way and make the pattern in a MagicEye pop the other way (in vs out, or vice versa)
ses1984
Instead of crossing your eyes to focus in front of the image, you have to uncross them and focus on something behind the image. Put your finger about six inches in front of your face and then look at the horizon. If the horizon is in focus you should see two fingers.
whatshisface
Focusing behind is much easier because you can get yourself started by focusing on an actual object.
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andrewla
Same -- much harder to get them to go the other way. I'm surprised that cross-eyed random dot stereograms never took off; so much easier to do.
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crazygringo
Yup, I loved Magic Eyes as a kid. This was easy.
Nevertheless, I was astonished that "impossible mode" literally took me only 1-2 seconds to find the missing star.
Like, I knew our vision is good at interpreting depth from images. I figured it would be all right at finding large areas of differences. I had no idea a single freaking pixel could stand out like a sore thumb.
sailfast
I had trouble finding the "shiny" pixels on that one simply because the stars also had that issue - but after enlarging the image a bit more and scanning back and forth I was able to pick things out a bit better.
Now, ask me to look at my code again for a couple minutes and it might be tough but it worked :)
adeon
Maybe we are the opposite. As a kid, I could only do cross-eyed-focus-in-front-of-screen, but not "focus beyond the screen". Or a book at the time.
So I was able to see the 3D in Magic Eyes, but the 3D effect was inverted.
Today as an adult I am able to focus beyond the screen, but it's still much easier for me to do it cross-eyed.
I also got all the images in the post almost right away. But my eyeballs focused in front instead > _ <
mikepurvis
I have a slightly lazy right eye, so this has always come naturally to me, but I will say it's considerably easier to achieve the false focal lock on printed material— something about screens, even quality ones with high refresh rates, just isn't the same.
irjustin
How do you do this focusing beyond the screen!?
I'm trying so hard to make this happen. Stare really far in the distance and then move the image in front of my face on my phone. No matter the distance between my face and my phone i can't overlap the images.
Focus in front of the screen is the easy one. How do you get beyond....
ninetyninenine
You know how you can make your eyes see double when you cross your eyes a bit? Do this and you get 4 images. Combine align the center 2 images and your eyes will automatically “lock on”.
irjustin
That's the focus in front right?
What's the beyond?
naet
I'm great at magic eyes / stereograms and have a ton of posters around my house with them, but I still had trouble with seeing the differences in the test images. I easily locked in my focus on the overlapping cat images but only one difference stood out to me. I eventually got them all but it wasn't that easy (maybe with practice I could get there). The differences are noticeable when I focus right on it, but when I'm looking at the whole image it's harder to tell what is missing from one eye.
manbash
Are you able to look around while keeping your "unified vision"?
To me, all the differences appeared to be flashing (probably my brain alternates between the pair of images it attempts to "lock in", or something to that effect).
SoftTalker
I can get the images to merge but the differences don't stand out.
mNovak
I find there's a two step process, first overlapping the images (but which makes the images blurry), then letting my eyes refocus so the middle image is crisp. Only then does 3D or shimmer effect happen. Takes some practice to merge the images while maintaining focus for me.
the__alchemist
Are you able to confirm the images are completely aligned? You can do this using landmarks, like the brightest stars on the telescope pic. I.e. if you see more than one of any landmark, it is not aligned. You may need to adjust zoom, and distance from face.
gcanyon
I can do magic eyes, but this technique doesn't work for me. My left eye is dominant enough that the whole image just looks like what my left eye is seeing.
robotguy
When auto stereograms were all the rage in the late 80's I had a program on my Mac Plus that let me make/edit them and I used to edit for hours WHILE looking at them in 3D. Then one time I was walking down a hallway with a repetitive wallpaper pattern, my eyes did the thing, the entire hallway appeared to shift in front of me, and I stumbled and fell. Still to this day my eyes will sometimes automatically snap into 'alternate' focus when viewing a repetitive pattern.
xamuel
No need for the Mac Plus program, you can make these in any text editor. Use a fixed-width font and fill a line with a repeating word eg
WORDWORDWORDWORDWORDWORDWORDWORDWORDWORDWORDWORDWORD
Then copy that and paste it a bunch of times to make it multi-line.
Cross your eyes so that the WORD's overlap (all except the leftmost and rightmost). You now see two cursors instead of one. Position your two cursors anywhere you want and then insert a space in order to make the corresponding WORD (or ORDW or RDWO or ORDW) sink into the screen. (Or rise if you parallel-view.)
We used to do this in the computer labs back in 6th grade.
wruza
This happens to me easily inside cars with these dotted-breathing roof interior patterns. (Edit: g “perforated vinyl fabric”)
Well, worse than easily - sometimes I cannot get back to normal and am not sure how far it actually is, because the nature of the pattern allows to re-lock at every few cm. I just don’t know where I’m really looking at unless there’s an irregular object nearby.
floydnoel
I don’t share a lot of comments from HN with my spouse, but this made me crack up so much that I just had to. Thanks for the story!
shaftway
This happens to me too. Particularly when it's on a narrow horizontal repetition (like wooden slats on a wall).
I attribute mine to playing a lot of the game Magic Carpet from the mid to late 90's. It had some interesting graphics modes, including Red/Blue anaglyph 3D and a stereogram 3D mode. It was fun to try to play it, but it used noise for the pattern, so you didn't get textures, only blobby shapes.
satvikpendem
Note that there is a difference between crossview and parallel view. See this image [0] and try to overlap them. Depending on what you see in the foreground, that is the type of view you're able to see.
Basically, it determines whether the 3D view you're seeing from the stereoscopic pair is convex (pops out of the page) or concave (goes into the page). It is of course possible to learn both views but most people naturally see one or the other. You can go to r/crossview or r/parallelview depending on which one you see.
alt227
I find that there are different techniques to seeing both.
If I stare at the image and cross my eyes until focus lock I get crossview where the image goes back into the page.
If I bring the image right up to my eyes and stare through it into the distance, then slowly move the image backwards into my gaze until I get focus lock, then I get parallel view where the image pops out of the page.
I have always wondered the difference between the two and why it happens. Thanks for shedding some light on it :)
EDIT: I have just managed to achieve both without moving my head or the image for the first time in my life! Just by trying to look further 'past' the picture into the distance, and then by slightly crossing my eyes and focussing at a point in front of the picture.
I have been trying to do this for 30 years, and it is only your explanation which helped me to do it. Thanks so much!
jasonjmcghee
I had never done the parallel view before either- spent 5 or so minutes at it and finally got it. For me it's still takes a fair amount of effort to maintain it (unlike cross view that takes effort to stop seeing it instead) but the 3d looks way more impressive somehow. Like the Toronto crowd one- hadn't seen so much depth in a "magic eye" before
wruza
I believe it’s better because it is more natural to eyes. You may also want to play with the perspective. E.g. the hall here looks much better from 0.4m than up close on my phone due to the picture’s perspective. https://triaxes.com/docs/3DTheory-en/522ParallelCrosseyedvie...
krick
Cannot figure out what is the difference. I can focus on both seemingly without changing anything, even though they aren't both in focus at the same time. But I don't know what I'm doing differently, I just move my eyes up or down, adjust a bit, and that's it.
satvikpendem
Which one is in the foreground vs background?
Terretta
Note that for parallel viewing the left edges (or centers) of the images should not be farther apart than your own eye spacing aka interpupillary distance (IPD) sometimes just called PD.
That imgur may need to be shrunk depending on your screen for parallel to work.
jeffhuys
I can do both pretty comfortably, but there’s a definite bias to parallel, way easier for me.
grishka
This whole "just cross your eyes" thing has never worked for me, not once. I've seen these strange patterns printed on the backs of notebooks that supposedly make some sort of 3D effect when you "just cross your eyes". Later, when I saw similar images online, I was able to at least visualize these hidden shapes by opening the image in photoshop, duplicating the layer, setting the copy to "difference" and moving it left or right. The regular texture would eventually disappear and the shape would emerge. It's still a mystery to me what it feels like to view these the intended way though.
titzer
Here are some tips;
1. When you cross your eyes, gradually let them return to uncrossed. Try to do it as slow as possible. Along the way, try to line up any structures that you see in the image that are repeated from left/right half.
2. Once you are able to hold a cross-eyed gaze long enough with lined up left/right half, slowly move your eyes between different features near the middle. Your eyes will naturally want to start to focus and match up pieces.
3. Don't be too far or too close to the image; they are usually easily viewed from comfortable distances. If the image is too big, make it smaller. It's usually easier smaller.
4. Initially, when you cross your eyes, or look through the image, it will likely be blurry. This is because your brain naturally associates accomodation and convergence with also changing focus. You'll learn to decouple those things and you will more quickly be able to go from focusing on the 2D image to crossing it without changing focus much.
There's a whole bunch on this site: https://www.magiceye.com/stwkdisp.htm
einpoklum
> 1. When you cross your eyes,
So, how exactly is that supposed to work?
I can manage some de-focusing which makes me see 4 images rather than two. Is that part of it? Otherwise, I don't get it.
thanatos519
I used put my finger halfway to the object, look at my finger until the crossed images in the background converge, then remove my finger and let my eyes stay in the same spot.
Now I can do it without the finger.
devvvvvvv
That's exactly it. You have to bring the "copy" of the left side to overlap with the "original" right side. Then move forward/backward until the overlapped 2 come into focus. The shimmering should stick out, was so shocking when it finally clicked for me.
fonema
Same here, but I always imagined that for it to work, I would need to have roughly equal vision in both eyes, which I don't. Everything is blurry with my left eye, and no glasses or lenses have ever helped. I attribute this as the reason.
mickeythug
Suffering from the same exact plight
mplanchard
I've also always had a hard time with these. I suspect it's because one of my eyes was slightly lazy when I was a child, so my brain learned to put more importance on the signal from the other eye. When I cross my eyes, the image from the better eye tends to just totally override the other one, so it can be really hard to see these kinds of effects.
davejohnclark
I have exactly this as well. My optician explained it as my brain would use the information from the lazier eye only if there wasn't any information from the good eye. Just tried the eyes crossed trick on the easy image in the article and the 3rd image in the middle is the right one. If I let them drift apart so there are 4 images I can see the left one and the difference (because I'd already found it), but as soon as I force them to overlap the left signal disappears and I'm only seeing the right image. I've also never managed to do a magic eye or anything, and 3d movies just give me a headache.
mewpmewp2
I seem to have the same thing. I can't get double images or any tricks at all.
I tried putting folded paper between my eyes to divide the images in such a way that I would only see left side with my left eye, and right side with my right, and I can alternate between image from left and image from right, but I can never see the image at once, or right side when I'm using my left eye.
r3trohack3r
I just spent 30 minutes trying to get any of these examples to work before it clicked.
What worked for me: I’m not “crossing my eyes.” Trying to cross my eyes precisely enough to get the two images to overlap was impossible.
Instead I’m starting by crossing my eyes until a third out of focus image starts to appear between the other two images, then I immediately abandon trying to cross my eyes and instead focus on bringing that third image into focus like it’s “floating” in the room at a different point in space than the page its on.
Apparently the circuits in my brain and eyes are good at this. As soon as I can get the “third image” to show up by crossing my eyes, I can “look” at it and my eyes snap perfectly into position.
After about 5 minutes of practicing I can focus on the third image in about a second from the time I begin to cross my eyes.
On the third image, the differences between the two images “shimmer” like a holographic foil on a playing card.
ndxf
Doesn't work for me either. I just made myself queasy while trying to cross my eyes for ten minutes haha
scottshambaugh
This I think is an underrated tool for scientific visualization. I made a matplotlib add-on that will let you make stereogram plots of data, and use this cross eyed or parallel eyed techniques to see it in 3D. https://github.com/scottshambaugh/mpl_stereo
notShabu
This is really cool! it allows you to see 2D charts in 3D without actually rendering anything in 3D
mkoubaa
Incredible!
amingilani
I'm frequently surprised by the amount of seemingly ordinary skills I picked up as a bored child that other people didn't. This was an obvious way to solve those "spot the difference" pictures in magazines.
I wonder what skills other people picked up that I didn't.
Some recent example of things I shared:
+ When your belt buckle hangs a little loosely on the front of your pants. You can hook the buckle's prong onto the front button of your pants and it'll stay put. So many people are excited to learn this.
+ Putting a jacket or any open-front garment on quickly. I saw someone struggling to maneuver their second arm in a tight jacket behind their back. I explained that if they hold their jacket out in front of them, put their hands in the arm holds, and slide their arm in further as they swing it around their body they'll get it on in a moment. It's also more stylish. They were so surprised.
Xerox9213
My odd claim to fame which is hard to garner praise for is that when I was a kid I always followed a certain pattern when I did something on a left or right foot. I always tried to even it out. So if I pinched my left toes, then I would do my right. But then I would undo that by going right then left. And then I would undo that by undoing the entire thing: right left left right. And the pattern went on:
LRRLRLLRRLLRLRRL…
and so on. It seemed easy enough to remember because you would just undo what you did last.
A few decades later and I learn that’s the Thue Morse word (1) which has many interesting properties like being overlap free. Unfortunately it didn’t give me any kind of advantage when studying combinatorics on words. Just a weird “wait… where have I seen this before?” moment.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thue%E2%80%93Morse_sequence
_nivlac_
I did the exact same thing, due to a feeling of wanting to "even" things out between right and left. Blew my mind that it was a known pattern; after watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prh72BLNjIk&t=549s
I'm always reminded that we are all more alike than we realise :)
kdmtctl
> When your belt buckle hangs a little loosely on the front of your pants. You can hook the buckle's prong onto the front button of your pants and it'll stay put. So many people are excited to learn this.
Yep. And there is a special vertical prong keeper tab on some trousers for exactly this purpose.
aimor
For when you feel a sneeze coming on:
- Want to sneeze? Look at a bright light.
- Don't want to sneeze? Scratch your ear.
xamuel
Ear rumbling: https://www.reddit.com/r/earrumblersassemble/
Eye shaking: https://old.reddit.com/r/Eyeshakers/
Some of us are born with small frenula of the tongue (or we undergo tongue-tie surgery as kids) and can thus perform Khecari mudra without the traditional self-mutilation used by yoga-masters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khecar%C4%AB_mudr%C4%81 This can be useful for cleaning tonsil stones or post-nasal drip, but of course you must do so discretely since people would consider that absolutely disgusting
If you want to read out loud for long stretches of time and you hate taking breaks to catch your breath: you can read out loud while inhaling too! (It feels and sounds super weird though so this isn't very useful in practice.)
And here's a party trick related to OP's super power. Pick a distant object and cross your eyes so as to see it double, preferably with the two doubles distant from each other (i.e., cross your eyes significantly). Then, alternately switch between staring at the left double, and the right double. If you do it right, it will look like your eyes are moving in a bizarre alien way.
emmelaich
Here's mine. Look at a patch of grass and ask someone to spot the ant or bug.
It's quite difficult.
But, if you let your eyes go out of focus, the ground will suddenly become alive with movement of all sorts of ants bugs and creepy-crawlies.
amingilani
This is the first new thing I’ve learned from this thread. I’m going to try it out!
TeMPOraL
> I'm frequently surprised by the amount of seemingly ordinary skills I picked up as a bored child that other people didn't. This was an obvious way to solve those "spot the difference" pictures in magazines.
Conversely, I'm amazed by the amount of things I discover as an adult are not common experiences or skills for people, despite being considered as such. This includes, for example, having an inner voice (which I do), or ability to visualize things in your head (which I don't).
Wrt. the latter, when I learned as an adult that some people actually can conjure up images in their mind on demand[0], and conversely that aphantasia is a thing, it took me few more years to connect that back to some early experiences in childhood - being bored out of my mind by some well-known novels that my parents and teachers found particularly engaging. Specifically, the ones rich in descriptions of scenery. They'd say that's the best part, what makes the story rich and immersive, and that's what imagination is for and those books are good for exercising it. Meanwhile, I'd feel ashamed and wonder what the fuck are they talking about, while skimming to find where the descriptions end so I can resume reading from there. Well, it turns out what they said was true for them, but is not true for people like me, who can't visualize to save their life.
Well, except in dreams. Which makes the whole thing even more fascinating.
> Some recent example of things I shared:
Interesting. I somehow managed to never learn either, so thanks! Ironically, I realize now I've probably seen people do the jacket swing trick hundreds of times, and yet it never registered in my mind as a distinct technique, much less one that I could learn.
EDIT:
One such skill I didn't pick up until my wife taught me, and that I know many (most?) people don't know, is how to correctly pour liquids out of rectangular containers with off-centre openings. Think a milk box, or 5L jug, or fuel canister. Turns out, you shouldn't flip them to give the liquid the shortest path to destination, but the opposite - have it flow alongside the entire top edge of the container. This gives you steadier flow, and you'll spill less. I still find it counterintuitive, but it works.
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[0] - Fun fact: that makes "undressing someone with your eyes" a literal ability for them too.
rmellow
> Specifically, the ones rich in descriptions of scenery. (...) skimming to find where the descriptions end so I can resume reading from there.
I've always been good at conjuring images in my mind, but I also skip the drawn out visual descriptions.
I could never enjoy Lord of the Rings due to Tolkien's love of describing trees (of the wooden and familial kinds)
v-erne
>> Well, it turns out what they said was true for them, but is not true for people like me, who can't visualize to save their life.
I used to be exactly like this - I could not visualize anything. Which was very perplexing for young me - I was astonishingly good at math (winning some country level math competitions even) but could not get past some arbitrary but somehow low level geometry problems. Then it struck me - I could not see the solutions in my head, only on paper, which drastically limited my search space.
But latley after years od doing other thing (including more artsy stuff like drawing) I discovered that I was wrong - its it possible to learn, its just that some people gets this faster and with little effort. For me it was just a other few thousend hours of doing staff that accidentally expanded my visualization ability and then "miracle" happend.
The same was with my supposed tone deafness - guess what, I only believed my self info being tone deaf (real tone deafness is very bery rare). I just was lazy in this departament (in building my ability to perceive tones).
hprotagonist
Good old vdiff: https://catb.org/jargon/html/V/vdiff.html
Visual diff. The operation of finding differences between two files by eyeball search. The term optical diff has also been reported, and is sometimes more specifically used for the act of superimposing two nearly identical printouts on one another and holding them up to a light to spot differences. Though this method is poor for detecting omissions in the ‘rear’ file, it can also be used with printouts of graphics, a claim few if any diff programs can make. See diff.
An interesting variant of the vdiff technique usable by anyone who has sufficient control over the parallax of their eyeballs (e.g. those who can easily view random-dot stereograms), is to hold up two paper printouts and go cross-eyed to superimpose them. This invokes deep, fast, built-in image comparison wetware (the same machinery responsible for depth perception) and differences stand out almost immediately. This technique is good for finding edits in graphical images, or for comparing an image with a compressed version to spot artifacts.
smusamashah
For anyone who wants to learn this, try this way using your finger as a helper.
Put the images in front of your eyes.
Bring your finger between your face and the image at almost middle of the distance.
Now look at your finger.
Move your finger back and forth and notice the background (where your picture is)
While doing this, notice that at a particular distance, the images in background will perfectly overlap each other.
That's your moment.
Pull out your finger and look at that image.
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It worked on everyone I have tried to teach. You may always need help of your finger or a tip of a pencil or whatever. But it's lot easier to get those images to merge this way.
skeaker
My eyes seem to immediately refocus as soon as my finger moves away no matter how many times I try this. Before I move my finger away, everything in my peripheral vision is too blurry to be useful.
rahimnathwani
I've always been able to merge pictures by focusing into the distance, and I thought that's how everyone did it. So I found confusing all the talk of crossing eyes. I tried your instructions and, within 30 seconds, was able to see the cat image by crossing my eyes.
The cross eyed method seems more amenable to different image sizes. With my regular method, I can't merge images if they're too large (unless I step back).
nhumrich
Does this only work on desktop? I am trying this on mobile and the images never overlap. Wondering if maybe my viewport is too smal
MarkusWandel
Wait, that's not crossing your eyes, it's uncrossing them. Ordinarily if you look at something nearby, your eyes aim at a common spot. But when viewing a stereogram, you need to convince your eyes to aim at a spot more distant than the subject.
This is easy with practice, however IMHO it helps to be significantly nearsighted. Then you simply take off your glasses, and can look at something nearby with infinity focus, which is naturally associated with uncrossed eyes.
I don't know whether it's possible to train yourself to diverge your gaze, i.e. stereoscopically see images that are separated more than your pupil distance. Certainly I can't do that.
phailhaus
For spot-the-difference, crossing your eyes is more effective and easier to "dial in" than uncrossing them. You're essentially making each eye look at the opposite image. If you try uncrossing, then you need to make sure the images are at the exact correct distance to cause them to overlap with that technique, because you can only uncross your eyes enough to look straight ahead.
nemetroid
Looking uncrossed at the images in the article on my phone, I can easily achieve the effect uninterrupted between fully stretched arms and about half that.
phailhaus
Sure, but that's the limit. I didn't say it was impossible, just that crossing your eyes basically works all the way up to your nose.
seeekr
Is that true? It seems that our eyes are mechanically capable of looking in divergent directions, what's the reason that we're not able to "uncross" them beyond looking straight ahead? (Edit: Anecdotally I can confirm for myself that I'm not able to do it, so wondering if there's anyone that can.)
thfuran
From a control system standpoint, if you have one control that rotates both eyes the same number of degrees left or right to determine gaze direction and another to rotate both eyes the same (positive) number of degrees inward to control fixation distance, you can't specify the left eye rotated left of center and the right eye right, even if each eye physically can rotate that way. Not sure if that's how eyes actually work though.
ses1984
It’s a good thing that properly designed stereograms take this into account and don’t require you to uncross your eyes past that point.
phailhaus
That's because you have to find the distance between your eyes and the stereogram to make it work. Crossing your eyes is easier because your eyes can turn inwards far more than they can turn outwards, so it works at more distances.
satvikpendem
See my other comment about cross view vs parallel view, looks like you can do one vs the other and the author can do the opposite.
vault
Wow. Thanks to MarkusWandel I discovered I can focus images while crossing my eyes and finally understood your comment. I've always done the "uncrossing" since I was a kid.
semireg
While intuitive, I’m not so sure. I look at the center line and slowly cross my eyes until the 3rd image slides into place and then I get focus lock. At no time do I feel my eyes uncross and go the other way. Hmm!
teddyh
Both work equally well if you just want to spot differences. Cross-eyed view is somewhat easier to do, since people naturally cross their eyes when looking at something close to their face, but there is no natural reason for one’s eyes to diverge. But cross-eyed view also gives a subjectively smaller image, and is also not the usual way autostereograms are made to be seen.
jodrellblank
> but there is no natural reason for one’s eyes to diverge.
When you’ve finished looking at something close to your face and your eyes need to uncross. So you do that eye movement while still holding the image close to your face. Note you are looking “past” where the image is. As long as the image is closer than your infinity focal view you can do this, it doesn’t have to be close to your face necessarily, Magic Eye posters on walls do work.
At a local bar they had a game machine, and if you got a high score on any of the games, your tab for the evening was free.
One of the games was a "spot the differences" between two pictures with an ever decreasing timer for each round. Using this trick I was able to easily surpass the high score, and garner a crowd watching me perform this mind numbing feat.
Probably my peak fame right there.