Republishing my Simpsons fan site, twenty years later
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·January 5, 2025lathiat
na4ma4
It's kinda funny how your site has outlasted most of the sites on the Links page :)
Tomte
I‘m so happy the Lurker‘s Guide (http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/) is also still online.
tessellated
I was there, when it was still in creation.
jms is such a treasure. Listening to his autobiography, narrated by Peter Jurasik, is wholeheartedly recommended.
coffeecantcode
This rocks, love finding stuff like this.
It appears the domain you used for your guestbook has been pass off to some sort of pharmaceutical information page in Scandinavia, I found that funny.
bitwize
Excellent work, ^-KewLGuY-^. I'd say that's the most "13-year-old in the 2000s" nick ever, but that honor probably goes to xXSephiroth666Xx. Yours is up there though.
Eric S. Raymond recently posted some xeets about how retrocomputing nostalgia is due, in part, to wistfulness for the Cambrian explosion in personal computers, where every little two-bit company comes up with their own wildly different design. The design space hadn't been fully explored yet, and the future seemed pregnant with endless possibility. Then as people figured out what worked and what didn't in the computer design space, the PC sorta won, and it made much more sense to build a PC clone and take advantage of the huge PC hardware and software ecosystem. Raymond predicts that a similar coalescing on proven designs will happen with 3D printers.
Of course, ESR believes in the need for government slightly less than he believes in the need for redemption through the blood of Christ the Saviour, so he overlooks a critical forcing factor in this cycle of exploring the solution space followed by settling on proven designs: regulation. Cars were much cooler before the 1970s because the Clean Air Act was passed in the 1970s. There was an initial struggle period during which American autos shipped with anemic engines and features designed to compensate for lack of performance, until technologies like fuel injection became the norm, but again the automakers coalesced into a set of a few designs that both worked and fulfilled the obligations imposed by regulatory bodies... to the point where it's awful hard to tell a Toyota RAV-4 from a Honda CR-V just by looking.
I think the internet has gone through a similar exploratory vs. coalescing phase. Back in the 90s and 2000s, HTML and PHP let you create anything, so people created everything. And threw it up on a server, and it was wonderful. So many individual corners of the web with their authors' own perspectives. Now... well, regulation is definitely coming but in the meantime there are things with the force of regulatory bodies you have to worry about. You HAVE to do https which means you need a certificate. You HAVE to have a CDN and CloudFlare protection or else you'll be slashdot-effected or DDoS'd to oblivion. You can't even run an email server anymore without jumping through the hoops it takes to convince major providers you're not a spam farm. These are things you have to either think about yourself or pay someone to think about them for you. So the web has coalesced on a few best-practice designs and service providers. And most people just set up Wix or Shopify pages or Facebook groups anyway.
And that's why the 90s/2000s web has such nostalgic power. We could do anything from our armchairs with a bit of HTML and maybe some programming and sysadmin skills. But those days are gone. Maybe we're better off for it.
toast0
> You HAVE to do https which means you need a certificate.
This is kind of true, but, getting a cert isn't a big deal anymore. If you're not a big company, a free cert works fine.
> You HAVE to have a CDN and CloudFlare protection or else you'll be slashdot-effected or DDoS'd to oblivion.
DDoS is hard to manage, but otherwise it shouldn't be too hard to handle a /. kind of event if your page is reasonable and you make use of the abundance of modern computing... 1G cheap hosting is out there.
> You can't even run an email server anymore without jumping through the hoops it takes to convince major providers you're not a spam farm.
Yeah, this one sucks a lot. But, email is dead, so...
MrVandemar
> But, email is dead, so...
What an extraordinary claim!
My job, today, is dealing with a vast influx of various types of email that all need categorising and a range of different actions. Not very dead at all from where I'm standing.
Aardwolf
> Yeah, this one sucks a lot. But, email is dead, so...
Really? These days, can't even login to some services (like Steam) without them sending you an email to confirm the login (some services even do this even if you already have other 2FA...)
hypercube33
These are the best. Thank you. anyone have any xfiles sites?
wil421
Smoking man theories were the best!
bitwize
I'm looking for a character shrine for Akane from Ranma 1/2 myself.
Cthulhu_
https://wiby.me/?q=Akane+Ranma came up with https://geocities.restorativland.org/Tokyo/Pagoda/3879/, does that count?
layer8
The DS9 theme MP3 is still functional!
pryelluw
I tried to sign the guestbook but could not. Didn’t expect it to work but would have been nice.
Wish guestbooks were still a thing. Visiting my site to find a new message was always a treat.
lathiat
Ha ha thanks :) yeah the guest book was an external service. Along with the image based hit counter :)
bamboozled
I wish this was still what the internet was and not a bunch of walled garden xitter links I’ll never ever read.
I love your website. You’ve inspired my to put my blog back online in 2025 and document some of the things I plan to build.
fsflover
> I wish this was still what the internet was
Here you go: https://wiby.me.
Cthulhu_
I've got the "surprise me" link bookmarked for a random distraction, it's great!
bamboozled
Incredibly cool, thanks
qup
The first website I ever built, where I learned HTML, was a Goldeneye 007 N64 fan site. I had all the cheats, all the walkthroughs, all the funny jokes and animated gifs. I misspelled "license to kill" in the url I created at angelfire.
Angelfire has a lot of sites from back then (~1999?), but not mine.
The site wasn't even that bad by modern standards. Had a frames layout, vertical frame on the left for the nav. I didn't know about server side includes yet.
amatecha
Nice! If you remember the full URL, it's very possible it's on archive.org. My first couple websites are on there, fortunately (or unfortunately, considering how dorky they are hahah)
NoboruWataya
Mine was a Linkin Park fan website, also hosted on Angelfire from around then. IIRC frames were the subject of a holy war at the time. I thought they were magical and had the same frames layout as you, but read a lot of stuff about how they were awful design so I created both frames and noframes pages (the latter having the nav bar across the top).
It was a lot of fun. When I discovered JS I started playing around with alerts, which surely would have driven my visitors mad if I had any.
stavros
I rehosted my Tolkien fanpage from 1999 or so: https://tolkien.stavros.io
I also have my personal website from back then somewhere.
ChrisArchitect
Resources like the Simpsons Archive aka SNPP, the episode capsules particularly, which are just a collection of lengthy text files written decades ago but filled with treasure trove of insights and searchable references/quotes, are one of the rare simple gems of the Internet that I hope last forever.
zebomon
I hope so too! Jouni is still active and recruiting maintainers here: https://simpsonsarchive.com/about.html
stuartd
I hadn’t realised this had resurfaced after snpp.com went down! Pleased to see I’m still listed as a contributor to the computer list - https://www.simpsonsarchive.com/guides/computers.file.html
101008
This touches me so deeply... I had a similar experience in the sense that I too created a fansite for something I really enjoyed back then (first with Frontpage, then iframes, then PHP), and now that evolved a lot and I kind of become an expert on that (and a business on itself, I am generous!)
But while I was doing that, being a 10 years old, my best friend had his own Simpson fansite, so this triggered a lot of nostalgia. I when I visited yoru website and I saw the Buttons sections, oh my god. I wanted to cry. Thank you so much, I don't know how to thank you. I'm in love with the fansites from 2000-2005, and this was a trip.
zebomon
You are very welcome! It makes me so happy to hear that I could add a little to your day. Frontpage was my first IDE as well!
ethagnawl
Tangential but timely: I haven't watched the Simpsons regularly in about 20 years. However, my internal clock still sounds an alarm every Sunday night about 15 mins before showtime.
macintux
You've reminded me of how intensely frustrating it was to be a fan of a TV show pre-WWW and pre-streaming, when networks would shuffle shows between different days and times, trying to find the perfect lineup (or trying to accelerate the demise of an underperforming series).
Scoundreller
In Toronto, we had a slight advantage where the TV channel that played most of the Fox content (Global TV on NTSC channel 6) bled into the tunable FM range so you could at least listen to it on your car radio (or any FM radio for that matter).
ethagnawl
That is so cool. I'd not heard of this "phenomenon" before.
waltbosz
When I created the website for the Ultimate Simpsons Doom II mod, I published it at tripod.com. It's still there 22 years later https://waltersgameboy.tripod.com/simpdoom/
I miss the old Internet.
amatecha
Random "early web Simpsons memory": in 1995 when I was taking a course to learn HTML, I had a great time browsing the web with "super-fast" ISDN (this was amazing at the time), and downloaded the Itchy & Scratchy song, in .au format. The filename was itchscra.au -- pretty sure I remember this because I spent so long trying to embed the audio into my web page and make it automatically play, which I don't think I ever got working haha
dustincoates
My first website was a baseball fan site in the late 90s. I discovered Google that way, because I had somehow reached the #1 result for "perfect game baseball" and got a lot of traffic thanks to David Wells (or Cone, can't remember which).
The web was so amateur back then, that I even got an email from a sports journalist asking if I accepted submissions from freelancers.
elzbardico
Every time I am presented with something like that that reminisce me of the 90's web, its innocence, and the unlimited potential it presented, I am brought back to Jaron's Lenier book, "You are not a gadget" and this often-cited quote out of it:
"If you want to know what’s really going on in a society or ideology, follow the money. If money is flowing to advertising instead of musicians, journalists, and artists, then a society is more concerned with manipulation than truth or beauty. If content is worthless, then people will start to become empty-headed and contentless"
JustBreath
Was there a time or place in where money flowed to musicians, journalists, and artists instead of their managers?
ta1243
Sadly my first major site (with a four-letter dot-com and everything) went down before internet archive got to it.
The first, and indeed only, site I did for cash, dating back to early 1997, was still hosted by claranet until 2009 - well after the shop had bust
MrsPeaches
Love the “Match-Ups” page:
https://gardnermcintyre.com/simpsonszip/view.php?page=matchu...
zebomon
Thank you! I remember having a great time putting that one together!
Somehow, the (much less impressive) Star Trek fan site I created in 2000 when I was 13 is still online.
I’ve long since lost access to it but the freeservers mob I hosted it with have somehow kept the sites from way back then all around and online still to this day. It’s a little painful and factually incorrect (I called the movie Generations a series!) but gives me a good laugh: http://stvoyager.iwarp.com/