Opera will always help you block ads natively
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·October 26, 2024cebert
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You shouldn't just get to post this passive aggressive crap. Tell me why this outrages you or why you want it to outrage me. Vaguely hinting that I should be distrustful of people who live across some border because they look and talk different and our governments have tension is not enough to get me going.
cebert
I don’t personally want a browser, which is such an important element of my personal and professional life, owned by a Chinese company. Additional, Opera isn’t fully open source. I also don’t trust Google.
zztop44
I’m curious, what’s the rationale for this? Is it corporate espionage? Or do you live in China/have family there and engage in online activity that might cause problems?
rasz
There you go
https://qz.com/africa/1788351/operas-okash-opesas-predatory-...
>A Chinese super app is facing claims of predatory consumer lending in Nigeria, Kenya and India
https://hindenburgresearch.com/opera-phantom-of-the-turnarou...
>The group’s largest investor and current Opera Chairman/CEO was recently involved in a Chinese lending business that listed in the U.S. and saw its shares plunge more than 80% in just 2 years amid allegations of fraud and illegal lending practices.
>Post IPO, Opera has now also made a similar and dramatic pivot into predatory short-term loans in Africa and India, deploying deceptive ‘bait and switch’ tactics to lure in borrowers and charging egregious interest rates ranging from ~365-876%.
aucisson_masque
Well we'll see in a year when Google completely shut mv2 support. Until then it's very easy to speak, especially when you have very few market share and everything to gain with marketing stunt and not much to lose.
troymc
Opera already does ad blocking before you add any extensions, so the manifest v3 thing is a bit of a red herring.
josephcsible
> We plan to continue supporting Manifest V2 extensions in Opera independently of what will happen to other browsers.
Once Google rips the MV2 code out of Chromium entirely next year, are Opera's developers really going to have the resources necessary to maintain such a hard fork?
whatyesaid
Maybe if Opera, Arc, and Brave people joined forces... Without a combined effort they lack the power of Chrome store and developer docs.
Worst comes to worst they can use the Firefox engine. The MV2 extensions don't need much work to leap over for Firefox
dlachausse
This is why it’s so critical that we don’t consolidate onto monocultures. It is crucial that Firefox and WebKit continue to be viable alternatives to Chromium.
stavros
How open source is a browser if entire other companies can't maintain a fork?
KetoManx64
Oh hey! Small world! I recently used your Static site generator to convert a subset of my Joplin notes into a website which I used as a showcase for employers and that showcase ended up being the thing that got me my initial interview with the company I'm now working for. Thanks for making the converter public and saving me a bunch of time from not having to write one myself from scratch!
stavros
Oh nice! I'm really glad that was useful, I use it for myself but I didn't know if anyone else did!
josephcsible
Open-source-ness only depends on the source code being released under a suitable license. It has nothing to do with complexity or maintainability of it.
JadeNB
> Open-source-ness only depends on the source code being released under a suitable license. It has nothing to do with complexity or maintainability of it.
That's a definition, but I think that stavros was proposing that, much like Microsoft's "open" formats for Office, if a codebase is so complex that no-one else, not even with the resources of a full company, can maintain it, then at best its open sourceness is pro forma.
yapyap
ugh, hate Opera personally.
1. Their GX twitter account is insufferably cringe, we get it, you allow your social media manager to be edgy because you saw the engagement it has driven to KFC_ES and Wendys.
2. It’s just a shit browser
“ As of the end of 2023, Opera Software was 72.4% owned by Kunlun, a Chinese public company, making it a subsidiary of that company. Opera CEO James Yahui Zhou is a controlling shareholder in Kunlun.” [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_(web_browser)]